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League and soccer can be complimentary because they're on at different times of the year. Afl is a much bigger threat IMO. I reckon 20/20 and cricket generally have more to fear from soccer as they both compete for summer audiences.
Soccer is a winter sport for the kids and league supporters of tomorrow. If you want league supporters it is better to have tip footy in the playground than soccer.

I know it is anecdotal but I went to a family BBQ recently and it was all soccer soccer soccer amongst the kids. I was asked who my favourite player was!!! I had been talking myself up as God's gift to the world game as a youngster and was left looking foolish by my standard of play and inability to name a single player who wasn't retired.

Soccer is a terrible game to watch IMO. However it seems few agree with me and I see it as a real threat.
 

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I think a lot of that comes down to the individual.

There are a lot of kids that just aren't suited to Rugby League. Many are way too timid. Some of them love to watch the game but would never want to play it.

And some kids really aren't suited to soccer either. They may be too big and immobile.

I think it's great they have a choice. I think we are moving towards an environment where people enjoy many sports rather than just one or two. I don't think it really needs to be this outright war. Kids can try a range of things to work out what suits them best. They can often play multiple sports too.

Do the sports in the USA Baseball/Basketball/Football squabble amongst each other as the Australian sports do?
 

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Do the sports in the USA Baseball/Basketball/Football squabble amongst each other as the Australian sports do?

I don't know the answer to that but they obviously have the population to support a few codes. Four codes in a city of ~4m (or whatever it is) is a big ask.
 

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I don't know the answer to that but they obviously have the population to support a few codes. Four codes in a city of ~4m (or whatever it is) is a big ask.
We've been doing it for a long time now though. There always seems to be this impending doom that never actually comes.
 

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Soccer is a winter sport for the kids and league supporters of tomorrow. If you want league supporters it is better to have tip footy in the playground than soccer.

I know it is anecdotal but I went to a family BBQ recently and it was all soccer soccer soccer amongst the kids. I was asked who my favourite player was!!! I had been talking myself up as God's gift to the world game as a youngster and was left looking foolish by my standard of play and inability to name a single player who wasn't retired.

Soccer is a terrible game to watch IMO. However it seems few agree with me and I see it as a real threat.
Exactly, the kids grow out of it and start getting into rugby league in their teen years. Especially the smaller kids that hit their growth spurt. Soccer has always been popular amongst kids in Western Sydney, doesn't mean that it stopped rugby league.
 

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We've been doing it for a long time now though. There always seems to be this impending doom that never actually comes.

True, and I don't agree with the pending doom thing, they will all survive to some degree although I think Union has a few issues. I wonder if Sydney was like Melbourne though, where League basically had no competition up until the early 1980's, how much different the game might look in terms of crowds, grounds etc.
 

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Exactly, the kids grow out of it and start getting into rugby league in their teen years. Especially the smaller kids that hit their growth spurt. Soccer has always been popular amongst kids in Western Sydney, doesn't mean that it stopped rugby league.
Going back 30 plus years ago there were no soccer teams to watch. There was Sydney Croatia, Apia Leichardt etc (could be wrong on names it is a vague recollection) divided up along ethnic grounds. We grew out of soccer because there was no team to watch on TV. That is not true today and I'm not sure the market is big enough to accomodate four codes.
 

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True, and I don't agree with the pending doom thing, they will all survive to some degree although I think Union has a few issues. I wonder if Sydney was like Melbourne though, where League basically had no competition up until the early 1980's, how much different the game might look in terms of crowds, grounds etc.

Rugby are the worst off. They have the big end of town but they offer nothing to normal people.
 
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Rugby are the worst off. They have the big end of town but they offer nothing to normal people.
Rugby has really dropped off the last few years I reckon. Most people I know that like their sport used to watch the wallabies but don't bother now.
 

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Rugby has really dropped off the last few years I reckon. Most people I know that like their sport used to watch the wallabies but don't bother now.

I reckon the Socceroos going to the world cup ****ed them over a bit. Before that, the Wallabies were kind of our main international team.
 

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I reckon the Socceroos going to the world cup ****ed them over a bit. Before that, the Wallabies were kind of our main international team.

I reckon they also got a bit carried away with ticket pricing for the Bledisloe.
 

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I think a lot of that comes down to the individual.

There are a lot of kids that just aren't suited to Rugby League. Many are way too timid. Some of them love to watch the game but would never want to play it.

And some kids really aren't suited to soccer either. They may be too big and immobile.

I think it's great they have a choice. I think we are moving towards an environment where people enjoy many sports rather than just one or two. I don't think it really needs to be this outright war. Kids can try a range of things to work out what suits them best. They can often play multiple sports too.

Do the sports in the USA Baseball/Basketball/Football squabble amongst each other as the Australian sports do?

I fell into that category. I loved playing soccer up until I was 18. I was always reading things about it or playing FIFA. The NSL didn't seem to have much mainstream media coverage so I didn't hear much about it as a young kid. I was the same with the Sharks. Always passionate about it but I never really wanted to play League.

A-League is in summer and I think it would have very little impact on the Sharks. People will like what they like. If kids want to follow soccer, there isn't much that can be done. I don't really see the point in this.
 

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I think a lot of that comes down to the individual.

There are a lot of kids that just aren't suited to Rugby League. Many are way too timid. Some of them love to watch the game but would never want to play it.

And some kids really aren't suited to soccer either. They may be too big and immobile.

I think it's great they have a choice. I think we are moving towards an environment where people enjoy many sports rather than just one or two. I don't think it really needs to be this outright war. Kids can try a range of things to work out what suits them best. They can often play multiple sports too.

Do the sports in the USA Baseball/Basketball/Football squabble amongst each other as the Australian sports do?
In terms of garnering support I think it is about playing tip footy not actually playing tackle. Tip football is inclusive of different builds and was the staple during my schooling. Every kid had a league team even though it was a union school.

It is all well and good to say choice is great etc and the various codes can coexist. That doesn't mean we can stop competing with the other codes, it means we need to fight even harder for market share.
 

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Touch footy should be st the heart of the NRL's engagement model. Especially for kids and women.

If you play then you'll watch.

Plus its a great way to develop the most exciting skills for RL. Eg Shaun Johnson.

I would love to see the Sharks have an involvement with the local touch comps (if they haven't already).
 

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GORMAN'S FIRST JOB WILL BE TO REIN IN FLANAGAN

Former Wanderers chairman Lyall Gorman is expected to be unveiled as the new chief executive of the Sharks any minute now.

His first task will be to remind Shane Flanagan who's the boss, and it's time to move on. The coach clearly still believes he's been the victim in the supplements scandal that's almost torn his club apart.

At a media conference earlier this week concerning the signing of Ben Barba, Flanagan said in earshot of several reporters: "I'm glad some of my favourite journos aren't here, otherwise I'd bury them."

He was referring to a trench that was being dug on the playing surface at Remondis Stadium.

Sharks media man Robbie Willis joked back: "You'd need a bigger trench."

Of course. That's right. The media allowed controversial sports scientist Stephen Dank into the club in 2011. The media injected players with unknown supplements. The media suspended Flanagan from the NRL …


http://www.smh.com.au/sport/anz-sta...-250m-of-taxpayers-money-20141120-11qcvm.html
 
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