sharks2010
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If that's true that's poor form from Shane and rob
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Not very professional but I had a chuckle reading it.
30 years ago some of the scum-raking reporters would've been leaving the pub with a bloodied nose
Really?
Hooper and Massoud were unprofessional, unethical and inept to the point of slander. They have no integrity and deserve no respect.
It doesn't change what Flano did or whether he was punished enough.
I would (informally) bar them from the Club and just go through Ritche and Riccio.
Hooper and Massoud were unprofessional, unethical and inept to the point of slander. They have no integrity and deserve no respect.
It doesn't change what Flano did or whether he was punished enough.
I would (informally) bar them from the Club and just go through Ritche and Riccio.
djhabib
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He still hasnt learned anything.
sharks2010
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while I agree with what you're saying AB, it's not a good look for a club trying to change its image
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How much of what Hooper & Massoud wrote has been proven to be an out and out lie?
Yeah. Wasn't like he burled up to the mics and made a point of it though. It could easily have been taken out of context.
But more than that, this sounds like journos sticking up for journos. Don't forget, Webster was head sports writer for the Telegraph until recently. He knows these muppets.
I agree that Flano has to accept responsibility and I dearly hope he has... though I'm doubtful he has. But those "journalists" produced some of the most facile, derogatory, false bull**** over the course of a year and no one is asking them to take responsibility - they keep their jobs. He has every right to loathe the people that publicly accused him of contributing to Jonny Mannah's death.
One wrong doesn't absolve another. He's got to get his act together but he's under no obligation to be nice to those merkins.
I'm certainly not going to waste time going through each of their articles but you can start with the weekly 'Infraction notices are imminent" ineptitude.
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He has an obligation to the Sharks and should leave his personal issues at home. His comments were that of a two year old.
We need to stop making ourselves targets for muckraking. Banning journalists would be absurd (and I have no respect for those you have singled out either).
Not to mention the venom and open hostility they used to titillate the masses with their vitriol.
You reckon anyone at the Club feels different?
And I wouldn't ban the Telegraph entirely. As I said, Riccio and Ritchie are fine. Rothfield is Rothfield. But give those two nothing.
I actually suspect that's already what's happened.
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Irrespective of whether or not the journalists were on moral and ethical shaky ground. (which we all know they were)
The best way for the reputation of the club and for the reputation of Flanno to improve is to move on without reference to it. Hardest possible thing to do, sure.
But dragging up the past and engaging in hostile sentiments is not going to pave the way to a successful cultural shift or mould our reputation into that of a leading club.
Take the higher ground for once and get our neck above ****ing water.
The best way for the reputation of the club and for the reputation of Flanno to improve is to move on without reference to it. Hardest possible thing to do, sure.
But dragging up the past and engaging in hostile sentiments is not going to pave the way to a successful cultural shift or mould our reputation into that of a leading club.
Take the higher ground for once and get our neck above ****ing water.
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I don't care what individuals feel on a personal level, their responsibility is to the club. It was unprofessional, unnecessary and anti productive.
sharks2010
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spot on
Agreed
I don't blame flanno for what he said, a lot of people share his opinion, just shouldn't be aired in public like that, and of course it may not even be true, but like I said, if it is true, it's poor form from both Shane and rob
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Massoud has publicly said that when clubs give him nothing he goes looking for a story and that story will not be a positive one.
Is that a mature way to go about things - no. Is that the reality of the situation - yes.
So if the club goes by your recommendations then you can expect any little thing to be blown up out of propitiation.
Much better off playing the game and leaving your true feelings behind close doors.
Like it or not the media will print and say what they want and the great majority of people take what they say as fact. There is no point trying to win a battle that you can't fight on even footing.
The journos can write what they like when they like - where as coaches, players and admin can only hope they get quoted in context.
FWIW, if you read any of my posts here, you'll know that that is exactly how I usually see these things. Sport is about sacrifice for the good of the group. Then everyone gets the credit.
But at the same time you're under no obligation to roll over when someone bullies you. You stand up for yourself.
Now Flanagan probably shouldn't have said that and he certainly shouldn't have said it in the presence of journos. But remember - he didn't intend for it to be public. Someone eavesdropped, which isn't the most ethical behaviour itself.
Sir Chadley
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I would not have the time or space to write what I think of journalists. If I started now I'd still be writing on Xmas day.
Most of them have no idea of the game. They know as much as I do and as we all know, that's not much at all.
I cannot stand how they can basically write or say anything they want and not be accountable for it. They use the same defence all the time, "it's in the public's interest" We'll, BULL****! Most of the stuff they say over dramatises every situation and they place to high importance on what they do. They are arrogant, self serving, muck raking, smug and have no morals whatsoever.
Having said all that, if Flanagan said those things it was bloody stupid.
Most of them have no idea of the game. They know as much as I do and as we all know, that's not much at all.
I cannot stand how they can basically write or say anything they want and not be accountable for it. They use the same defence all the time, "it's in the public's interest" We'll, BULL****! Most of the stuff they say over dramatises every situation and they place to high importance on what they do. They are arrogant, self serving, muck raking, smug and have no morals whatsoever.
Having said all that, if Flanagan said those things it was bloody stupid.
djhabib
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Exactly. They both should know better.