Your 2022 Sharks Line Up

[apezza]

My expectations would be that we challenge these teams more than we have this year and upset a few. That we defend better, reduce the missed tackles and offloads we concede too readily. That we turn up week to week with desire and looking like we want to be there/win. If we can do that, we have the cattle to perform well.

The finishing number is a bit more arbitrary as so many factors can go into that. Outside of Melbourne, just about every team is a key injury away from dropping 4-5 spots on the ladder minimum.

I agree that 2023 would be the goal to challenge for a title, if we can recruit well again next year.

That's a good point. Looking at those top 4 or 5 sides, we know at the moment how much of a level above us they are in terms of quality so performing consistently well against those teams is a measure on how we are going.

I would also add as a measure that we should be winning the games we are expected to win.

Stability in the ranks (playing group and back office) with minimal negative exposure would top it off.

 

[Sir Chadley]

I'm a little bit perplexed at some talk I have seen putting Metcalf at centre like Matt Burton at Penrith.

I don't agree with this at all, he is either a 1 or 6 or 14. Burton has been great yes, but he had way more experience than Metcalf and is much taller and stronger for mine and could adapt to play centre.

Except for injuries, I don't see Fitz playing anyone out of position so I don't see Talakai at centre either. I like him but if he doesn't show a bit more in the last couple of games, he may not even make the top 17 next year.

I don't think we've seen the last of the signings yet so I'm not going to post a team until then. I think we are still short a good prop and centre but the price is always important so not sure what the quality will be like.

I think the expectations for next year do need to be tempered a bit, even though Fitz comes with heaps of wraps, he is still a rookie coach. For me 2022, placing 6th, 7th or 8th will be the most reasonable outcome given this. Anything higher will be a complete bonus.

But for 2023 with the offloading of a few more players perhaps and new signings and a year under Fitz, those expectations can suddenly rise to top 4.

 

[bort]

I'm a little bit perplexed at some talk I have seen putting Metcalf at centre like Matt Burton at Penrith.

A combination of us having a bit of a shallow position and people trying to shoehorn players into the team.

Comparing him to Burton who is a completely different build as an example doesn't sell me on it any better.

 

[Blue_Eyes84]

1. Kennedy
2. Katoa
3. Tracey
4. Ramien
5. Mulitalo
6. Hynes
7. Trindall
8. Rudolf
9. Brailey
10. Finucane
11. Talakai
12. Graham
13. McInnes (C)

14. Metcalf
15. Hunt
16. Williams
17. Hamlin-Uele

18. Wilton
19. Nikora
20. Moylan

I can't see where Moylan fits and I really wanted Wilton in somewhere. Nikora, just didn't cut it. I thought honestly to put Metcalf at centre instead of Tracey, which could promote Wilton to the bench.

Same as my team.

I much prefer that backrow. Talakai on the right, Wade on the left, McInnes in the middle.

 

[Sir Chadley]

A combination of us having a bit of a shallow position and people trying to shoehorn players into the team.

Comparing him to Burton who is a completely different build as an example doesn't sell me on it any better.

Thanks Bort.

I mean, he’s hardly made it as a 6 or a 1 at this stage and some blokes want to put him at centre.

Just didn’t make sense to me.

 

[Proud Shark]

Thanks Bort.

I mean, he’s hardly made it as a 6 or a 1 at this stage and some blokes want to put him at centre.

Just didn’t make sense to me.

For Penrith it makes sense, as he isn't better than either of their starting halves, but too good to be left out or play a limited role off the bench. You could mount a case if we also had that halves situation, but we don't. If he is so good he must be picked, I imagine that will be at 6.

 

[sharkgaz]

Wade’s been great for us no doubt, but seriously, his last 2 years have been fairly ordinary by his standards. I know very well he has had injury issues with knee etc. I think he has been playing “worried” that one more significant head knock will surely end his career. As much as I admire the guy, I think we have other options in the forward pack for 2022, and whilst the new Coach will most likely put him in the team at the start of next year, I have my doubts that he will play out the season.

 

[Deleted member 3365]

I'm a little bit perplexed at some talk I have seen putting Metcalf at centre like Matt Burton at Penrith.

I don't agree with this at all, he is either a 1 or 6 or 14. Burton has been great yes, but he had way more experience than Metcalf and is much taller and stronger for mine and could adapt to play centre.

Except for injuries, I don't see Fitz playing anyone out of position so I don't see Talakai at centre either. I like him but if he doesn't show a bit more in the last couple of games, he may not even make the top 17 next year.

I don't think we've seen the last of the signings yet so I'm not going to post a team until then. I think we are still short a good prop and centre but the price is always important so not sure what the quality will be like.

I think the expectations for next year do need to be tempered a bit, even though Fitz comes with heaps of wraps, he is still a rookie coach. For me 2022, placing 6th, 7th or 8th will be the most reasonable outcome given this. Anything higher will be a complete bonus.

But for 2023 with the offloading of a few more players perhaps and new signings and a year under Fitz, those expectations can suddenly rise to top 4.

It was merely a suggestion on behalf to have him in the centres. Tracey is good, but I'm just not 100% sold on him as our centre for next year.

 

[Cage]

The thought crossed my mind that it may be a good time to give Jensen T a run with the big boys.

 

[Sparkles]

Interesting that we have so many spots left in the squad at this stage of the year. Surely means there are more signings coming, and with our depth it should end up resulting in genuine competition for spots. I also don't think we'll see Wade back. So it does feel a bit premature to pick a side.

But... Based on who we know we have.... I'm now fully on
Moylan as our 14. The game suits a genuine bench impact back and his body probably best suits limited minutes. I'm not totally sold on Trindall or Metcalfe starting but would be happy for them to get a run if we can't sign a genuine, established 6/7 before kick off 2022

 

[Wiz]

It was merely a suggestion on behalf to have him in the centres. Tracey is good, but I'm just not 100% sold on him as our centre for next year.

I’m not sure what evidence people have seen that suggests Tracey is good at centre.. ? he is a fill in and plays like one. There is more evidence he’s a better winger then a centre

The less thinking Tracey has to do in a position the better

 

[Tiger Shark]

I'm a little bit perplexed at some talk I have seen putting Metcalf at centre like Matt Burton at Penrith.

I don't agree with this at all, he is either a 1 or 6 or 14. Burton has been great yes, but he had way more experience than Metcalf and is much taller and stronger for mine and could adapt to play centre.

Except for injuries, I don't see Fitz playing anyone out of position so I don't see Talakai at centre either. I like him but if he doesn't show a bit more in the last couple of games, he may not even make the top 17 next year.

I don't think we've seen the last of the signings yet so I'm not going to post a team until then. I think we are still short a good prop and centre but the price is always important so not sure what the quality will be like.

I think the expectations for next year do need to be tempered a bit, even though Fitz comes with heaps of wraps, he is still a rookie coach. For me 2022, placing 6th, 7th or 8th will be the most reasonable outcome given this. Anything higher will be a complete bonus.

But for 2023 with the offloading of a few more players perhaps and new signings and a year under Fitz, those expectations can suddenly rise to top 4.

Not sure what's so perplexing about it. He filled in there on the weekend against the Tigers.

And if he makes it impossible not to pick him in the 17 it's an option they'll have to consider considering we need to fit in Hynes, Moylan, Trindal and Tracey.

Also he's fast as **** and looks like he has some growing to do weight wise. It wasn't that long ago Tracey wasn't a centre in anyone eyes - either a 1, halves or a 14. Now he's playing wing and centre for us.

Might not happen but can't rule it out and could be an easier way to get him into the 17. Perhaps with an eye for him to take a halves spot full time in 2023 ?

Nice problem to have.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Not sure what's so perplexing about it. He filled in there on the weekend against the Tigers.

And if he makes it impossible not to pick him in the 17 it's an option they'll have to consider considering we need to fit in Hynes, Moylan, Trindal and Tracey.

Also he's fast as **** and looks like he has some growing to do weight wise. It wasn't that long ago Tracey wasn't a centre in anyone eyes - either a 1, halves or a 14. Now he's playing wing and centre for us.

Might not happen but can't rule it out and could be an easier way to get him into the 17. Perhaps with an eye for him to take a halves spot full time in 2023 ?

Nice problem to have.

Fast and elusive, something we don't have a lot of.

 

[Tatus]

Wasn’t that long he was a half. Was is the sharks that put him at FB first? Probably played there as a youngen. These blokes are life time footballers who have probably played all over the park growing up. It’s not a stretch in my eyes for a player to learn a new position in first grade.

 

[snowman]

Metcalf could put on 5kg and be an elite centre

Would make him taller and same weight as Michael Jennings

Its on him to make himself impossible to not be in the team

 

[Sir Chadley]

Not sure what's so perplexing about it. He filled in there on the weekend against the Tigers.

And if he makes it impossible not to pick him in the 17 it's an option they'll have to consider considering we need to fit in Hynes, Moylan, Trindal and Tracey.

Also he's fast as **** and looks like he has some growing to do weight wise. It wasn't that long ago Tracey wasn't a centre in anyone eyes - either a 1, halves or a 14. Now he's playing wing and centre for us.

Might not happen but can't rule it out and could be an easier way to get him into the 17. Perhaps with an eye for him to take a halves spot full time in 2023 ?

Nice problem to have.

Fast and elusive, something we don't have a lot of.

Wasn’t that long he was a half. Was is the sharks that put him at FB first? Probably played there as a youngen. These blokes are life time footballers who have probably played all over the park growing up. It’s not a stretch in my eyes for a player to learn a new position in first grade.

Metcalf could put on 5kg and be an elite centre

Would make him taller and same weight as Michael Jennings

Its on him to make himself impossible to not be in the team

Never mind me then, I know nothing.

Ok then. Put him in the centres.

 

[Gards]

I love Tracey and what he brings to our team and I am glad he is in it. However it's evident he is average AF in the spine so being honest does anyone think another club would actually recruit Tracey to play centre or wing for them? Maybe some of the bottom tier clubs that are really struggling for effort players with a bit of quality ?

Don't get me wrong I love his application week to week and he has done remarkably well in the backline for us all things considered but I still feel no clearer on what to do with him long term. Bulk him up and he loses agility which is one of his key assets.

We need Ferris fit - he has massive potential in the centres and looks a natural

 

[Sir Chadley]

I love Tracey and what he brings to our team and I am glad he is in it. However it's evident he is average AF in the spine so being honest does anyone think another club would actually recruit Tracey to play centre or wing for them? Maybe some of the bottom tier clubs that are really struggling for effort players with a bit of quality ?

Don't get me wrong I love his application week to week and he has done remarkably well in the backline for us all things considered but I still feel no clearer on what to do with him long term. Bulk him up and he loses agility which is one of his key assets.

We need Ferris fit - he has massive potential in the centres and looks a natural

When he is on the wing, Tracey reminds me a bit of Corey Thompson, can break tackles, fast, elusive and gives 100%. Anyone else see that or is it just me?

 

[Gards]

When he is on the wing, Tracey reminds me a bit of Corey Thompson, can break tackles, fast, elusive and gives 100%. Anyone else see that or is it just me?

You might be right but now I can't unthink this

****

 

[Sparkles]

I’m not sure what evidence people have seen that suggests Tracey is good at centre.. ? he is a fill in and plays like one. There is more evidence he’s a better winger then a centre

The less thinking Tracey has to do in a position the better

Dunno, I think he gets into the middle with his support play a lot more from centre. And he's really good at that... and we really need it until Kennedy figures it out. Defence is okay and his short passing/offloading is okay. Can kick a bit too. Still would prefer a specialist replace him, but until we get one I like his contribution and involvement more from centre