Official Wade Graham

[Sparkles]

Then we do what the Roosters did to club legend Luke Ricketson, let him go.

Good clubs make tough decisions.

I don't disagree.

If we don't sign another quality forward soon then we'll end up needing Wade next year as a Tolman type. Which I'd be happy to see, at the right price (which won't be $200k) for his last year playing.

 

[andrew's_sharks]

I think realistically Graham will end up somewhere around the 300k mark. Is it too much for him maybe. I think it is probably the best way to not rock the boat and not overpay for him.

 

[Sparkles]

I think realistically Graham will end up somewhere around the 300k mark. Is it too much for him maybe. I think it is probably the best way to not rock the boat and not overpay for him.

What do we reckon Tolman was on? I see Wade in that category now.

 

[HaroldBishop]

What do we reckon Tolman was on? I see Wade in that category now.

Pretty sure Tolman was no more than 200k but could be wrong. He definitely wasn't on much.

 

[Sparkles]

Pretty sure Tolman was no more than 200k but could be wrong. He definitely wasn't on much.

You just couldn't though... $400k wouldn't damage the cap and it should be enough to see out the year, let him have a year in France and come back in some off-field capacity the year after without any hard feelings.

 

[Shortfin Mako]

You just couldn't though... $400k wouldn't damage the cap and it should be enough to see out the year, let him have a year in France and come back in some off-field capacity the year after without any hard feelings.

As much as I do not like it, this seems to be the only solution forward. Do you think 350k would do it?

 

[Blix]

200k could be the difference between front loading a player like sifa and keeping him and not…….let alone 400k.

350k would want to do it…..no way known he is worth that.

 

[Sparkles]

As much as I do not like it, this seems to be the only solution forward. Do you think 350k would do it?

Who can say, but I don't think $50k would be a dealbreaker

 

[snowman]

350? no ****in way. 200k or go to the tigers

 

[Sparkles]

200k could be the difference between front loading a player like sifa and keeping him and not…….let alone 400k.

350k would want to do it…..no way known he is worth that.

If it came to that it's a no brainer. You wouldn't resign Wade

 

[Gal The Goat]

On current form does anyone actually think another club in Australia would pay him $350k-$400k?

Tigers or Dolphins surely wouldn’t even offer that

 

[andrew's_sharks]

On current form does anyone actually think another club in Australia would pay him $350k-$400k?

Tigers or Dolphins surely wouldn’t even offer that

I think it is too much. 300k I feel is the balanced position of respecting his history and leadership with the club but also acknowledging he is playing half a game and not in the form he once was.

 

[Blix]

Wasnt gal happy to play for 250k. a few years ago…..when he was still playing pretty darn good (loads loads better than Wade did this season let alone next season when he is another year older) and Gal is debatably Cronulla’s best ever.

Fifita is going to go down as more of a cronulla legend then wade….I just don’t see it, nice bloke but crap for last 4 years getting paid $750+ worst high dollar signing I can remember, the sooner we move on the better

 

[Western Sharkie]

I think the main considerations towards Wade’s contract value are:

1. What is the Veterans allowance for 2023
2. Who (if anyone else) is eligible at the Sharks to receive an amount under the allowance (is it 2% of the total cap?)
3. Would Wade be blocking a more deserving player from a top 30 spot

So, depending on the answers to those 3 questions, would depend on our offer and these delays might still be around points 1 and 2.

Everyone is throwing amounts of $200 to $400k around.

So let’s just work off the 2022 cap @ $9.4m as 2023 is unknown (but likely higher).

1. 2% is $188k
2. Wade would be our only player if “at the one club” rule applies. So he either has minimal affect or upto half of his payment falls under the cap (say $200 of a $400 deal)
Therefore the only real question is,
3. Does resigning Wade block a more deserving player of a top 30 spot

So, is everyone happy for Wade to stick around for maximum of $200k cap space based on those assumptions?

 

[Capital_Shark]

I see little to no value retaining him purely on what I see from my living room.

 

[Gal The Goat]

I think the main considerations towards Wade’s contract value are:

1. What is the Veterans allowance for 2023
2. Who (if anyone else) is eligible at the Sharks to receive an amount under the allowance (is it 2% of the total cap?)
3. Would Wade be blocking a more deserving player from a top 30 spot

So, depending on the answers to those 3 questions, would depend on our offer and these delays might still be around points 1 and 2.

Everyone is throwing amounts of $200 to $400k around.

So let’s just work off the 2022 cap @ $9.4m as 2023 is unknown (but likely higher).

1. 2% is $188k
2. Wade would be our only player if “at the one club” rule applies. So he either has minimal affect or upto half of his payment falls under the cap (say $200 of a $400 deal)
Therefore the only real question is,
3. Does resigning Wade block a more deserving player of a top 30 spot

So, is everyone happy for Wade to stick around for maximum of $200k cap space based on those assumptions?

I seen they are pushing for $500k veteran allowance next year.

So if Finucane doesn’t fall under those rules (he’s played 10 seasons across the park so maybe?) I think Graham is the only one. We could actually give Graham $500k and it won’t make a difference to us at all, as NRL also contribute the entire salary cap.

Under those salary cap circumstances I could accept he stays, but under the conditions he isn’t blocking say Wilton or Talakai from starting though.

 

[MrDravid]

I think the main considerations towards Wade’s contract value are:

1. What is the Veterans allowance for 2023
2. Who (if anyone else) is eligible at the Sharks to receive an amount under the allowance (is it 2% of the total cap?)
3. Would Wade be blocking a more deserving player from a top 30 spot

So, depending on the answers to those 3 questions, would depend on our offer and these delays might still be around points 1 and 2.

Everyone is throwing amounts of $200 to $400k around.

So let’s just work off the 2022 cap @ $9.4m as 2023 is unknown (but likely higher).

1. 2% is $188k
2. Wade would be our only player if “at the one club” rule applies. So he either has minimal affect or upto half of his payment falls under the cap (say $200 of a $400 deal)
Therefore the only real question is,
3. Does resigning Wade block a more deserving player of a top 30 spot

So, is everyone happy for Wade to stick around for maximum of $200k cap space based on those assumptions?

10.4m is the figure I've seen thrown around, but some are saying it could be closer to 11m.

But you're right, his salary is basically irrelevant.

EDIT: looks like they are calling it an allowance for long-serving and locally-developed players, so it might be more than Wade who is eligible for it. But the RPLA is pushing for $500k, which will push the cap to $10.9m.

 

[Shortfin Mako]

Who can say, but I don't think $50k would be a dealbreaker

It's a psychological barrier

 

[Rob]

My understanding is the $500k can be used on veteran or development deals combined it’s not just veterans. So if we pay Wade $300 we have $200 on development players.
The way the league and cap is I’d prefer to use the whole $500 on development of our future.

 

[Gards]

The only reason I can see him remaining unsigned at this stage is that he actually isn't worried about the value if of the contract.

It's possible that there was a conversation with Fitz along the lines of "we'd love to keep you but we can't afford to lose x,y,z because of you staying ". It's possible in this scenario Wade is happy to just wait and sign a deal after we get some others over the line.

He may be happy to play here or nowhere.

Article from a few months ago suggests the value of the contract is in fact the sticking point but Wade said back in August he is comfortable where the contract discussions are heading with the club and even said if he is feeling good in 2023 will be keen on a further year into 2024

Technically right now he is a free agent but the only rumored interest or whatever seems to have come from overseas and our own club the Sharks

Either way both parties would want this sorted well before pre-season so everyone knows where they stand