Official Nicho Hynes

[Wiz]

Yep. I think he's just still learning how to be 'the guy' on the team. Needs to learn he can be the best player on the park by nailing the little moments and not forcing the big play.

Is he an Reynolds/Cronk 7, not yet and he may never be. Doesn't mean he can't be a very good halfback. I'm thinking Mitch Moses without the attitude problems.

Why would we want him to be that guy he is best when he’s running off the cuff and not trying to control everything

 

[Proud Shark]

Why would we want him to be that guy he is best when he’s running off the cuff and not trying to control everything

Sure, ideally we would have signed Reynolds too and he could be that player, but we haven't

All I'm saying is at this early stage of his career, I don't think it's beyond him to be a very good 7. I don't think we've seen the best of him yet.

 

[apezza]

It’s not that hard - we have two 6’s ATM…

We need Trindall/someone who’s an actual 7 that can calm the game down and go through the processes to partner Hynes

Now we have two players in Moylan and Hynes that are creative and run first I don’t see Hynes ever being that controlling type and definitely not Moylan - we actually have a forward pack that can match it with the best we should look at changing something in the halves department if we keep it the same it won’t be good enough in the finals

So we just resigned Moylan for 2 years. He gets dropped and plays reserve grade?

 

[Capital_Shark]

I think we might need to recalibrate our expectations on how we play. We are certainly not "Flanno-ball" anymore. We're not really about the grind so much at the moment, we're sort of like if the chips are down we will send it. Obviously we need to find the balance and defence will be the cornerstone, but I think attacking from what others might see as a weak position is and will continue to be a strength of ours.

Fitzy loves his jujitsu. I don't know much about it but from what I do there's a lot of manipulating and taking advantage of what your opponent does and using it against them.

At the moment I think we are a team who are trying to build a strong defensive base game but also a team who transforms immediately into attack and goes for the throat. Absolutely agree we need more patients and to build more pressure with the ball but it's all coming along pretty nicely in my opinion.

 

[andrew's_sharks]

I think we might need to recalibrate our expectations on how we play. We are certainly not "Flanno-ball" anymore. We're not really about the grind so much at the moment, we're sort of like if the chips are down we will send it. Obviously we need to find the balance and defence will be the cornerstone, but I think attacking from what others might see as a weak position is and will continue to be a strength of ours.

Fitzy loves his jujitsu. I don't know much about it but from what I do there's a lot of manipulating and taking advantage of what your opponent does and using it against them.

At the moment I think we are a team who are trying to build a strong defensive base game but also a team who transforms immediately into attack and goes for the throat. Absolutely agree we need more patients and to build more pressure with the ball but it's all coming along pretty nicely in my opinion.

I have You can see the Jiu Jitsu through the defence regularly. They use it to get them to submit in tackles and to get them on their back. The defence will probably just get better

 

[Deleted member 3365]

So we just resigned Moylan for 2 years. He gets dropped and plays reserve grade?

Even though Moylan is playing well and really having a dig, I thought the signing was a year too long.

 

[Milkshark]

Was it Hynes that wanted the 7 or is it because Moylan is a 6? That I’m assuming is the reason Moylan was resigned at 6.

I really believe we have two 6’s playing in our halves. Hynes has moments of brilliance and we are in the top 4 like I predicted at the beginning of the year so he is doing ok.

But the game requires a game manager. Someone to steer the team around, to put those little kicks in behind the line to force a drop out to manage those last 10 minutes of the game, someone to manage the 10 minutes we are down to 12 with a sin bin, someone to know when the forwards are tired and know how to slow the game down to give them a rest etc etc etc.

Hynes in my opinion is erratic, brilliant at times, and an ok makeshift 7.

The Moylan signing from years ago has always been strange. He has never really had a position. And just now is making a go at 6. But the issue we have a genuine 7 on the bench / playing at jets and also Hynes who is more a 6 having a go at 7.

The workaround in my opinion is to either:

1. Partner Hynes with Trindall and look to offload Moylan. Yes Moylan has some form but it’s wasted money.

2. Partner Moylan with Trindall and put Hynes to 1. Kennedy is safe under the high ball but apart from that, he doesn’t offer a lot. Hynes has shown what he can do at 1 for Storm, he wants the ball in hand and likes to backup, which is also a criticism of Kennedy’s game. The only downside to Hynes at 1 is I believe he is also suspect in defence, but he isn’t worse than Kennedy.

I don’t think we would make the change this year, the team is doing well and it would disrupt the team harmony coming into the finals. However for next year, I think it would be worth considering.

Remember this is my opinion, don’t bother replying if you’re just going to be a dick.

 

[Sparkles]

Was it Hynes that wanted the 7 or is it because Moylan is a 6? That I’m assuming is the reason Moylan was resigned at 6.

I really believe we have two 6’s playing in our halves. Hynes has moment of brilliance and we are in the top like I predicted at the beginning of the year so he is doing ok.

But the game requires a game manager. Someone to steer the team around, to put those little kicks in behind the line to force a drop out to manage those 10 minutes of the game, someone to manage the 10 minutes we are down to 12 with a sin bin, someone to know when the forwards are tired and know how to slow the game down to give them a rest etc etc etc.

Hynes in my opinion is erratic, brilliant at times, and an ok makeshift 7.

The Moylan signing from years ago has always been strange. He has never really had a position. And just now is making a go at 6. But the issue we have a genuine 7 on the bench / playing at jets and also Hynes who is more a 6 having a go at 7.

The workaround in my opinion is to either:

1. Partner Hynes with Trindall and look to offload Moylan. Yes Moylan has some form but it’s wasted money.

2. Partner Moylan with Trindall and put Hynes to 1. Kennedy is safe under the high ball but apart from that, he doesn’t offer a lot. Hynes has shown what he can do at 1 for Storm, he wants the ball in hand and likes to backup, which is also a criticism of Kennedy’s game. The only downside to Hynes at 1 is I believe he is also suspect in defence, but he isn’t worse than Kennedy.

I don’t think we would make the change this year, the team is doing well and it would disrupt the team harmony coming into the finals. However for next year, I think it would be worth considering.

Remember this is my opinion, don’t bother replying if you’re just going to be a dick.

Nicho's a raw talent who appears to be playing away from his natural game.
It's concerning that Kennedy's not being brought into the attack more. And that Nicho runs the ball less than Brailey these days (watch how many times he spins and stalls looking for support when he's in any kind of space). And that our last tackle options aren't great (though possibly improving).

This is another experiment in a lot of ways... We've given up on the Trindall experiment, let's see how this one goes. But I do see a 'true' seven playing next to him in the next year or two.

 

[bort]

Was it Hynes that wanted the 7 or is it because Moylan is a 6? That I’m assuming is the reason Moylan was resigned at 6.

Nicho wanted the 7
I also think he’s gunna play the same if you give him 6 or 7. He wants his hands on the ball.

Sitting 3rd in his first year in the 7, not too bad I reckon.

The Moylan signing from years ago has always been strange. He has never really had a position. And just now is making a go at 6. But the issue we have a genuine 7 on the bench / playing at jets and also Hynes who is more a 6 having a go at 7.

He was clearly our 6 and played well there but we panic bought SJ when Val left.
So Moylan got moved back to fullback and got injured.
Then there was a period where it was unclear what to do with him as we had SJ and Chad but Moylans legs couldn’t do fullback.
Now he’s back at 6.
I personally wouldn’t say his signing was strange (someone to play 6 to replace a 6) or that he’s never had a position.
Last time he played most of a season at 6 we went alright.

 

[sharkstragic]

We are 3rd on the ladder. Both our halves are going great, they have the odd off game but you cant really fault them too much.

 

[ben]

It’s not been a good few weeks for Kennedy. Statistically, Moylan has been our best half. So I don’t understand why there is any talk of replacing him with trindall. See how Kennedy goes for the rest of the year and if no adjustment happen I’m with “trindall 7, Moylan 6, hynes 1” club.

 

[apezza]

It’s not been a good few weeks for Kennedy. Statistically, Moylan has been our best half. So I don’t understand why there is any talk of replacing him with trindall. See how Kennedy goes for the rest of the year and if no adjustment happen I’m with “trindall 7, Moylan 6, hynes 1” club.

Have you not noticed how safe Kennedy has been at fullback??? That's his No 1 priority in my opinion.

 

[sharkstragic]

It’s not been a good few weeks for Kennedy. Statistically, Moylan has been our best half. So I don’t understand why there is any talk of replacing him with trindall. See how Kennedy goes for the rest of the year and if no adjustment happen I’m with “trindall 7, Moylan 6, hynes 1” club.

I thoiught Kennedy was great last night, and has been consitent all year. This is our first year with Hynes at 7 and we are in the hunt. leave him at 7.

 

[Jasonstevenswedgie]

Nicho's a raw talent who appears to be playing away from his natural game.
It's concerning that Kennedy's not being brought into the attack more. And that Nicho runs the ball less than Brailey these days (watch how many times he spins and stalls looking for support when he's in any kind of space). And that our last tackle options aren't great (though possibly improving).

This is another experiment in a lot of ways... We've given up on the Trindall experiment, let's see how this one goes. But I do see a 'true' seven playing next to him in the next year or two.

both brailey and hynes look for someone else to take the hole they have created. they need to pin the ears back and ball paly once through the line not before it.
the intercept pass to to'o is a great example, nocho had his inside guy beat but weant for the pass instead of running

 

[Wiz]

So we just resigned Moylan for 2 years. He gets dropped and plays reserve grade?

I was against it..
He’s alright but for us I don’t think he’s necessary - we need a different type of player next to Hynes

 

[apezza]

I was against it..
He’s alright but for us I don’t think he’s necessary - we need a different type of player next to Hynes

I kind of agree but we won't be changing anytime soon now that have resigned Moylan

 

[Sutty]

I dunno I think this is all discussion for end of season etc. I think we are going well, hard to judge our attack last night because we couldn't get a quick play the ball the last 60 minutes cause the ref wouldn't blow his whistle.

 

[Thresher]

I think we might need to recalibrate our expectations on how we play. We are certainly not "Flanno-ball" anymore. We're not really about the grind so much at the moment, we're sort of like if the chips are down we will send it. Obviously we need to find the balance and defence will be the cornerstone, but I think attacking from what others might see as a weak position is and will continue to be a strength of ours.

Fitzy loves his jujitsu. I don't know much about it but from what I do there's a lot of manipulating and taking advantage of what your opponent does and using it against them.

At the moment I think we are a team who are trying to build a strong defensive base game but also a team who transforms immediately into attack and goes for the throat. Absolutely agree we need more patients and to build more pressure with the ball but it's all coming along pretty nicely in my opinion.

The Storm were the first NRL club to use brazilian jiu jitsu in their training, which is where the 'wrestling' that they are known for really came into their game. A friend of mine was one of their jiu jitsu trainers.

 

[apezza]

The Storm were the first NRL club to use brazilian jiu jitsu in their training, which is where the 'wrestling' that they are known for really came into their game. A friend of mine was one of their jiu jitsu trainers.

I bet he has a nice boat in his driveway!

 

[Thresher]

I bet he has a nice boat in his driveway!

It was a she, and it didn't make her wealthy.