Official Matt Moylan

[Super Impose]

Really? Wouldn't take him for 200k for two years?

Yeah - good point point about the $ being a factor ..

Moylan has been very contract savvy over his career - done well for himself in that regard ..

 

[Milkshark]

Good on him if he got a 2 year contract.

The club should offer a 1 year contract unless they think he is a our long term 6 and can get him on 2 years on not too much money or if they think another club might come along and pick him up.

 

[Wiz]

Gave him a year at 450k when he was pretty much done for and now he’s played about 4 good games and now his manager is talking about how the Sharks should re sign him for two more years obviously at more then 450k and that we should hurry up because there is rival interest.

Got to love it

 

[Bundy Shark]

Gave him a year at 450k when he was pretty much done for and now he’s played about 4 good games and now his manager is talking about how the Sharks should re sign him for two more years obviously at more then 450k and that we should hurry up because there is rival interest.

Got to love it

Careful Wiz, some time back I made a post lamenting we paid him 400k & was taken to task & got reminded we are actually paying him 350k, personally I thought it was splitting hairs cause what we had paid him for the previous 4 yrs & the return we got from that was terrible.

IMO, anything north of 300k was us being very generous all things considered.
I’ll admit, overall, I’ve been happy with him so far but not happy enough to trust him, his application or body to offer him anything more than one year deals.

 

[apezza]

If Moylan continues playing like he has so far this year and remains injury free:

I would be happy to give an increase for another year with a second in our favour. Maybe up towards $500k.

Unless there is someone else bashing the door down (or on the market) what choice have we got? I think Trindall is still another year away (if at all).

I reckon the Broncs or Dolphins would easily pay $600 plus for a year or 2.

 

[Western Sharkie]

If Moylan continues playing like he has so far this year and remains injury free:

I would be happy to give an increase for another year with a second in our favour. Maybe up towards $500k.

Unless there is someone else bashing the door down (or on the market) what choice have we got? I think Trindall is still another year away (if at all).

I reckon the Broncs or Dolphins would easily pay $600 plus for a year or 2.

not having a crack at you Ap but if both the broncos and dolphins are prepared to pay this on a multi year deal, then why would he even consider an offer of 1 yr at $500 from us with an option in our favour?

im not suggesting what we do either way, but IF Fitz‘s wants to keep him, it will HAVE to be a multi yr deal in or around 500-550, 600 pa.

if Fitz and the club isn’t prepared to offer that for whatever reason, then let’s not waste time on it any longer.

 

[Wiz]

If Moylan continues playing like he has so far this year and remains injury free:

I would be happy to give an increase for another year with a second in our favour. Maybe up towards $500k.

Unless there is someone else bashing the door down (or on the market) what choice have we got? I think Trindall is still another year away (if at all).

I reckon the Broncs or Dolphins would easily pay $600 plus for a year or 2.

Moylan has been good but I wouldn’t be paying 500+ for a half that can’t sprint and struggles for a kicking game. Let alone his hammys

 

[bort]

As I said mate, just for discussion

I’m not interested in hating on players

Discuss then. You just dropped some bad stats on someone and wandered off.
Are you suggesting you dropped that number unsure whether it might be viewed negatively or not?

“Meanwhile in other threads people talking about signing Walker, Moses, Hunt, and how Staggs dominated Talakai and how good Manu is etc”

You saying the above is in what context ? You mentioned those names because they are in the missed tackles list ? That’s why my reply was but Moses and Hunt are much much better players then Moylan.. didn’t think it was that hard to understand

Yeah the context was the all important missed tackle stats just posted for discussion.
Other much much much better players have a comparable amount - that seems relevant to context that his stats aren't that unreasonable (especially as many similar position). I pointed out these better players with a similar amount of missed tackles are still of interest to many of us, so that number shouldn't be a crucifix for Moylan. Those guys also on much much much more money.
Didn’t think it was that hard to understand.

Careful Wiz, some time back I made a post lamenting we paid him 400k & was taken to task & got reminded we are actually paying him 350k, personally I thought it was splitting hairs cause what we had paid him for the previous 4 yrs & the return we got from that was terrible.

This is an interesting issue to carry with you. Being upset about the value of a player but then also being upset that it was suggested the value was actually a bit better than you were complaining about.

Moylan has been good but I wouldn’t be paying 500+ for a half that can’t sprint and struggles for a kicking game. Let alone his hammys

500 is too much but I could probably suffer it if it was one year and provided the bridge to the actual player we want there. People talk about Munster etc who aren't off contract for another season still so we would need someone to keep us going until then.
500 for two years would be absolutely disgusting. Depending on what other options we are looking at about the same amount as he's on now for two years I could also cop - again, helps bridge for the player we want. I guess that depends whether you believe reports what he is on now or not though.

 

[Milkshark]

Discuss then. You just dropped some bad stats on someone and wandered off.
Are you suggesting you dropped that number unsure whether it might be viewed negatively or not?

It went like this mate, I logged into Facebook and saw an interesting stat so I posted it in here, like I have with other players this year. And that’s as much thought as I put into it.

I don’t spend 24/7 on these forums to go through and read what you all have been arguing about this week.

Sorry if your feelings were hurt

 

[Bundy Shark]

Discuss then. You just dropped some bad stats on someone and wandered off.
Are you suggesting you dropped that number unsure whether it might be viewed negatively or not?


Yeah the context was the all important missed tackle stats just posted for discussion.
Other much much much better players have a comparable amount - that seems relevant to context that his stats aren't that unreasonable (especially as many similar position). I pointed out these better players with a similar amount of missed tackles are still of interest to many of us, so that number shouldn't be a crucifix for Moylan. Those guys also on much much much more money.
Didn’t think it was that hard to understand.


This is an interesting issue to carry with you. Being upset about the value of a player but then also being upset that it was suggested the value was actually a bit better than you were complaining about.


500 is too much but I could probably suffer it if it was one year and provided the bridge to the actual player we want there. People talk about Munster etc who aren't off contract for another season still so we would need someone to keep us going until then.
500 for two years would be absolutely disgusting. Depending on what other options we are looking at about the same amount as he's on now for two years I could also cop - again, helps bridge for the player we want. I guess that depends whether you believe reports what he is on now or not though.

Nah, you’re missing the point, the point was, you splitting hairs, taking me to task he wasn’t on 400k but the 350k you claimed, not sure how your figure is anymore accurate than mine but hey, it’s not worth going backwards & forwards with it, if I didn’t mention it I’m sure you would have corrected Wiz & told him it’s 350k, not 450k.

 

[Wiz]

It went like this mate, I logged into Facebook and saw an interesting stat so I posted it in here, like I have with other players this year. And that’s as much thought as I put into it.

I don’t spend 24/7 on these forums to go through and read what you all have been arguing about this week.

Sorry if your feelings were hurt

Please discuss and explain this post also

 

[The Punisher]

Please discuss and explain this post also

Some top quality **** stirring Wizard mate lol

 

[Wiz]

Nah, you’re missing the point, the point was, you splitting hairs, taking me to task he wasn’t on 400k but the 350k you claimed, not sure how your figure is anymore accurate than mine but hey, it’s not worth going backwards & forwards with it, if I didn’t mention it I’m sure you would have corrected Wiz & told him it’s 350k, not 450k.

Lol

 

[bort]

Nah, you’re missing the point, the point was, you splitting hairs, taking me to task he wasn’t on 400k but the 350k you claimed, not sure how your figure is anymore accurate than mine but hey, it’s not worth going backwards & forwards with it, if I didn’t mention it I’m sure you would have corrected Wiz & told him it’s 350k, not 450k.

Taken to task, jesus, mate sorry I hurt your feelings so bad.

I remember asking someone if they had a source for the number they posted because it was more than all the reports - I actually wanted to know if they did, as it would affect how I thought about the situation.
If that was you and you're pissed off at me asking not only did you misinterpret why I was asking (as I may have missed some info) but also I never saw one so I assume your also annoyed you made something up and got asked about it.

The fact you think in a conversation about the value of the player that more than 10-20% difference either way isn't relevant is just something we disagree on.

You didn't need to defend Wizard though, I wouldn't have bothered asking him if he had a source

It went like this mate, I logged into Facebook and saw an interesting stat so I posted it in here, like I have with other players this year. And that’s as much thought as I put into it.

I don’t spend 24/7 on these forums to go through and read what you all have been arguing about this week.

Sorry if your feelings were hurt

Maybe next time you want to (re)post seemingly stats about someone for discussion can you add some discussion then?

Will spare my dear feelings being confused and thinking you posted Moylan's missed tackle count as a negative thing.

I then mistakenly discussed it by taking into consideration quality of other players on the list which turned out be not what was supposed to happen...

 

[Wiz]

Taken to task, jesus, mate sorry I hurt your feelings so bad.

I remember asking someone if they had a source for the number they posted because it was more than all the reports - I actually wanted to know if they did, as it would affect how I thought about the situation.
If that was you and you're pissed off at me asking not only did you misinterpret why I was asking (as I may have missed some info) but also I never saw one so I assume your also annoyed you made something up and got asked about it.

The fact you think in a conversation about the value of the player that more than 10-20% difference either way isn't relevant is just something we disagree on.

You didn't need to defend Wizard though, I wouldn't have bothered asking him if he had a source


Maybe next time you want to (re)post seemingly stats about someone for discussion can you add some discussion then?

Will spare my dear feelings being confused and thinking you posted Moylan's missed tackle count as a negative thing.

I then mistakenly discussed it by taking into consideration quality of other players on the list which turned out be not what was supposed to happen...

Chill.. It’s a forum, no one needs to play by your rules, people can post how they like

 

[Bundy Shark]

Taken to task, jesus, mate sorry I hurt your feelings so bad.

I remember asking someone if they had a source for the number they posted because it was more than all the reports - I actually wanted to know if they did, as it would affect how I thought about the situation.
If that was you and you're pissed off at me asking not only did you misinterpret why I was asking (as I may have missed some info) but also I never saw one so I assume your also annoyed you made something up and got asked about it.

The fact you think in a conversation about the value of the player that more than 10-20% difference either way isn't relevant is just something we disagree on.

You didn't need to defend Wizard though, I wouldn't have bothered asking him if he had a source


Maybe next time you want to (re)post seemingly stats about someone for discussion can you add some discussion then?

Will spare my dear feelings being confused and thinking you posted Moylan's missed tackle count as a negative thing.

I then mistakenly discussed it by taking into consideration quality of other players on the list which turned out be not what was supposed to happen...

Let’s just leave it, your saying stuff that I’m not even gunna worry about cause it’s crap

 

[bort]

Chill.. It’s a forum, no one needs to play by your rules, people can post how they like

We're all bored by the dragons and tigers and can argue if we want, people can post how they like

 

[apezza]

not having a crack at you Ap but if both the broncos and dolphins are prepared to pay this on a multi year deal, then why would he even consider an offer of 1 yr at $500 from us with an option in our favour?

im not suggesting what we do either way, but IF Fitz‘s wants to keep him, it will HAVE to be a multi yr deal in or around 500-550, 600 pa.

if Fitz and the club isn’t prepared to offer that for whatever reason, then let’s not waste time on it any longer.

All good mate.

The point I was trying to make was if we don't want Moylan than we will be either going with an inexperienced half (Trindall) who in my opinion is a step back than what we have right now or going to the market (if there is someone available)

The value I placed on Moylan @500k was hypothetical based on his current form and remaining injury free - And in addition to your point that we will probably need to spend that much due to interest from those other clubs.

Let's look at it another way - if we are not prepared to pay 500k than what is our plan B to ensure we don't go backwards next year?

 

[Gards]

I feel as though Moylan has burnt us before and may again but we are in a tough situation cause our first drop Trindall is not performing and doesn't look up to it. I would prefer to hold off on Moylans next offer as long as we can to make sure his form and fitness stays where it is but I relise at some point we may have to pull the trigger either way

Tigers did well to lock down Hasting for 2 years, if he was off contract there would be clubs circling including us possibly

500k for Mozza doesn't sound that inciting but if we have no alternative it would be better to spend that on him than do nothing. we are going to have to spend good coin to secure a quality half regardless. if we save the money and put it elsewhere is it going to make up for not having a good 6, no way

form and fitness is the issue I relise but we would just have to roll the dice and hope Mozza stays good and he hasn't looked like breaking down yet. he would usually be hobbling or struggling by now from past seasons observations

 

[Blix]

Trindall has been pretty awful this year.

However he hasn’t been brought on as a controlling/kicking 7 which is how he showed his potential at the end of last season. He has been brought on as an impact 14 with 20 minutes to change a game…….he has basically looked panicked and rushed the second he gets on to try and show his wares.