Josh Hannay

[apezza]

No mate, not that one. I’d normally tell you to watch the game on replay but I wouldn’t want anyone to sit through that again. Even being up 16-6 at halftime, apart from the Will Kennedy show there wasn’t much else to see.

For the record, we were down 18-16 with around 6 mins to go when we received a penalty about ten metres to the right of the posts.

We should have taken the two to even it up but instead Hannay told them to take the tap and go for the try.

Tracey did a silly grubber on the second tackle and we lost the ball.

Thanks Chad - I had just about wiped it from my memory and you had to recount it almost to perfection!

 

[CrazyMatt]

Hannay out.

 

[Western Sharkie]

Hannay out.

Fitz in??

 

[BurgoShark]

I'd go with captain/coach but the problem is we have no leader/s, that's why we have Woods as captain.

On the captaincy issue, seriously who makes an unwanted non salary cap related player as captain? I'd be prepared to give Kennedy a go.

I was hoping Toby would step up to the plate this year, started the season with a bang and led 1-2-3 but things seemed to fall apart after Bomber sacking, his game has deteriorated. I have faith in that he will develop into a SOO player under Fitz and Dales guidance.

Toby was the same before Bomber got sacked. Missed tackles, dropped balls, getting called out of play for being offside and ill-timed stripping attempts. These things were all issues during the first 6 weeks.

 

[bort]

Toby was the same before Bomber got sacked. Missed tackles, dropped balls, getting called out of play for being offside and ill-timed stripping attempts. These things were all issues during the first 6 weeks.

But damn he looked good doing it

Did get a bit old after a while though

 

[Capital_Shark]

And some wanted to pay him like an Origin player for it. Every dollar over about $350k is too much at the moment.

 

[stormshark]

And some wanted to pay him like an Origin player for it. Every dollar over about $350k is too much at the moment.

This was all i wanted us to pay. We got Played by the Stupid Dog's cheque book, hurried and rushed, but i cld understand it at the time, given Coaching transitions. We needed another yr to assess most of the roster imho before making internal signings at $500k..

 

[Riverside MF]

Drops Chambers for Talakai who is a terrible centre.

Who needs Fitz or even a real coach?

 

[Sparkles]

Hannay can't keep the same side, but doesn't have anyone else to run out. While Hannay is total ****e, there's not much anyone could do here

 

[Gards]

Hannay can't keep the same side, but doesn't have anyone else to run out. While Hannay is total ****e, there's not much anyone could do here

which is why it is of extra and even more importance that we nail the basics that are within the teams control but we arn't even managing that. we have been in so many close games this season to go on to lose them

not kicking for touch successfully, not taking a penalty goal, drop balls, bad PTb, not making the extra effort in a tackle, not pushing up with the defensive line. these things are letting us down regardless of if we play our full cap of players or half of it. Players like SJ have band aided over the cracks for too long. We have been passive, soft and unfocused since coach Flanagan got booted

 

[Tiger Shark]

Hannay can't keep the same side, but doesn't have anyone else to run out. While Hannay is total ****e, there's not much anyone could do here

Sadly that's the situation we're in. We bag him out for some selections but alot of these are out of his hands due to lack of options. Hopefully these rumoured signings of Burns, Naiqama are being done as they've identified serious lack of depth in the squad.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Sadly that's the situation we're in. We bag him out for some selections but alot of these are out of his hands due to lack of options. Hopefully these rumoured signings of Burns, Naiqama are being done as they've identified serious lack of depth in the squad.

Yep, makes it tough when you have over 30% of your cap contributing nothing and another ~8% playing a few minutes a game.

Diabolical.

 

[bort]

which is why it is of extra and even more importance that we nail the basics that are within the teams control but we arn't even managing that. we have been in so many close games this season to go on to lose them

not kicking for touch successfully, not taking a penalty goal, drop balls, bad PTb, not making the extra effort in a tackle, not pushing up with the defensive line. these things are letting us down regardless of if we play our full cap of players or half of it. Players like SJ have band aided over the cracks for too long. We have been passive, soft and unfocused since coach Flanagan got booted

cracks were appearing while Flanno was still here although we were holding it together
Cap reduction, rookie coach and retirement of Lewis all helped expose them, 2019 was also year after Fifita did his knee plus to even further accelerate the decline Moylan started breaking after being moved to fullback and probably a dozen other factors... the point was supposed to be I thought there were concerning signs still while Flanno was here

 

[Wiz]

cracks were appearing while Flanno was still here although we were holding it together
Cap reduction, rookie coach and retirement of Lewis all helped expose them, 2019 was also year after Fifita did his knee plus to even further accelerate the decline Moylan started breaking after being moved to fullback and probably a dozen other factors... the point was supposed to be I thought there were concerning signs still while Flanno was here

What concerning signs were around when Flanno was around in 2018? We came 4th in his last year.

Serious question

 

[Proud Shark]

What concerning signs were around when Flanno was around in 2018? We came 4th in his last year.

Serious question

Discipline. We were giving away a huge amount of penalties and errors in both 17 and 18.

We were just good enough to make up for it.

 

[Wiz]

Discipline. We were giving away a huge amount of penalties and errors in both 17 and 18.

We were just good enough to make up for it.

Don’t see how that’s anything to do with how the squad is today. I just want to know what concerning signs Bort thinks were there in 2018 the year we came 4th

To your point though you could also argue if Maloney Moylan and Fifita were still playing that discipline and error count would still be very high till this day..

 

[Proud Shark]

Don’t see how that’s anything to do with how the squad is today. I just want to know what concerning signs Bort thinks were there in 2018 the year we came 4th

To your point though you could also argue if Maloney Moylan and Fifita were still playing that discipline and error count would still be very high till this day..

I can't speak for Bort, but for me I guess it has shown that over time we haven't been accountable for completing those one percenters. Whether it be errors, pens or missed tackles the coaching staff has always said "we need to get that sorted" and it hasn't been. I see that reflective in the team now that just don't look like they give a **** half the time, with no one held accountable.

 

[HaroldBishop]

One thing I will say about Flanno, I enjoy listening to him in commentary.

Fox really need to spend some money here because the quality of their commentary has deteriorated badly over the past few years.

Anyway, back to Joshua.

 

[Wiz]

I can't speak for Bort, but for me I guess it has shown that over time we haven't been accountable for completing those one percenters. Whether it be errors, pens or missed tackles the coaching staff has always said "we need to get that sorted" and it hasn't been. I see that reflective in the team now that just don't look like they give a **** half the time, with no one held accountable.

Bit hard to draw on that and see that’s a reason why we miss so many tackles and are so soft today. Discipline and errors aren’t our issue as much anymore anyway.

Defence wasn’t an issue for us which is where attitude all comes down to and why we are so bad today.

We won 16 games that year - would be coming 4th or 3rd if that was this year, we made errors but atleast the coaching staff got the players up every week to perform a lot more times then not

 

[Wiz]

One thing I will say about Flanno, I enjoy listening to him in commentary.

Fox really need to spend some money here because the quality of their commentary has deteriorated badly over the past few years.

Anyway, back to Joshua.

His insight on how some teams are playing during a game and why they are doing it are killer