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Yep, I even saw Trindall doing it on the weekend. The reason people have an issue with Chad doing it is because he does SO much.

I can think of reasons outside of the inside runner getting the ball.
Try again...

I've missed a couple of games this year, and am catching up. Just watched the Warriors game. Johnson threw TEN of these, and Chad threw five, three of which were on the same possession (they got three sets in a row on the line) so they were quite obviously setting up for something. They scored immediately of the back of the third one.

Notably Johnson won the 3-2-1 vote in a landslide that game
 

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Try again...

I've missed a couple of games this year, and am catching up. Just watched the Warriors game. Johnson threw TEN of these, and Chad threw five, three of which were on the same possession (they got three sets in a row on the line) so they were quite obviously setting up for something. They scored immediately of the back of the third one.

Notably Johnson won the 3-2-1 vote in a landslide that game
I am going to trust that you actually sat there with a notepad and pen and counted that

Waiting your explanation on why inside balls are so great
 

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none of this is going to matter soon, dogs and newcastle are sniffing around him

Will be gutted to lose him. We've seen a craftiness from him in three games that we've never seen from Chad, not to mention he can actually put up a decent bomb.

Fingers crossed Morris can make the brave call like he did with the Brailey bros, but I'm not counting on it.
 

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"Exactly" was to agreement to you.

The extra part was just a side note, and a critique of our current halves who just use it sparingly

I am going to trust that you actually sat there with a notepad and pen and counted that

Waiting your explanation on why inside balls are so great
Will put something together in another thread.

Let's get back to Trindall talk in this one.
 

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Draw defenders into the middle to create space outside
Sure, but only if you're not actually giving the ball inside
Give the halves time to set up the a play properly
So a settler? can do without getting the halves involved. I'd rather the half not do this so they can look at whats going on for the next play
Get the ball to the right position on the field for a set piece
Can do with out the half getting involved

If you have someone run inside and don't pass it to them you make them think about if they will need to compress if you actually throw a few the D line will naturally start to compress to compensate. Then when you run your backline play and have a decoy inside runner the D line (which hopefully is already a little compressed) will hold their slide to ensure the play doesn't switch back in the opposite direction and you give yourself an even better chance of opening space out wide.
There is also using it to try and attack in behind the ruck, whether targeting lazy markers who think play is going away from them, or to try and force a certain player to take on back to back tackles. Targeting the ruck will also compress the defensive line.

While not always the case often the half is looking outward and doesn't like what they see for whatever reason so they pick up the (potential decoy) inside runner to reset the play so they can have another look.

At the end of the day Rugby League coaches across the country use inside balls for a few different things, including it being prominant in the NRL. Do you seriously think you are more likely to be correct about them than virtually everyone else?

Yes, they often don't look like they achieve much but neither does any other regulation hitup which this is often just a variant of (so we aren't so predictable), often hitups are one off the half, this is the same. Using the half also helps the D think the ball is going the other way than it ends up going, which can put them off balance, a one out runner back on the same line as the inside pass never fools anyone.

The anti-inside ball crowd (was probably you) were complaining earlier in the year about them and then the next weekend Woods ran an inside ball, caught defence flat footed because of change of angle, got a quick play the ball and then we spread wide and scored.

I am going to trust that you actually sat there with a notepad and pen and counted that

Waiting your explanation on why inside balls are so great

The expectation that every play in the NRL needs to be 'great' is a good example of why you hate Chad so much.
It's also wrong.
You have to earn the opportunities and do the hard work to make your plays look great.
 

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If you have someone run inside and don't pass it to them you make them think about if they will need to compress if you actually throw a few the D line will naturally start to compress to compensate. Then when you run your backline play and have a decoy inside runner the D line (which hopefully is already a little compressed) will hold their slide to ensure the play doesn't switch back in the opposite direction and you give yourself an even better chance of opening space out wide.
There is also using it to try and attack in behind the ruck, whether targeting lazy markers who think play is going away from them, or to try and force a certain player to take on back to back tackles. Targeting the ruck will also compress the defensive line.

While not always the case often the half is looking outward and doesn't like what they see for whatever reason so they pick up the (potential decoy) inside runner to reset the play so they can have another look.

At the end of the day Rugby League coaches across the country use inside balls for a few different things, including it being prominant in the NRL. Do you seriously think you are more likely to be correct about them than virtually everyone else?

Yes, they often don't look like they achieve much but neither does any other regulation hitup which this is often just a variant of (so we aren't so predictable), often hitups are one off the half, this is the same.

The anti-inside ball crowd (was probably you) were complaining earlier in the year about them and then the next weekend Woods ran an inside ball, caught defence flat footed because of change of angle, got a quick play the ball and then we spread wide and scored.



The expectation that every play in the NRL needs to be 'great' is a good example of why you hate Chad so much.
It's also wrong.
You have to earn the opportunities and do the hard work to make your plays look great.
I was waiting for this respnse.

We are talking about inside balls, not dummy inside balls.
 

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I was waiting for this respnse.

We are talking about inside balls, not dummy inside balls.

???

... if you only ever do one or the other you may or as well do neither.

Based on your reply I don't think you took anything from anything I said so probably no point anyone trying to keep explaining this.
 

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???

... if you only ever do one or the other you may or as well do neither.
If he was to actually dummy the inside runner and run it himself or dish it out wide i'd have no issue with it.

But often does he ever do that?
 

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If he was to actually dummy the inside runner and run it himself or dish it out wide i'd have no issue with it.

But often does he ever do that?

Yeah, he then gets panned for being too slow & not passing.

Haters gonna hate.
 

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???

... if you only ever do one or the other you may or as well do neither.

Based on your reply I don't think you took anything from anything I said so probably no point anyone trying to keep explaining this.

Yep, and yep.
 

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???

... if you only ever do one or the other you may or as well do neither.

Based on your reply I don't think you took anything from anything I said so probably no point anyone trying to keep explaining this.
Bro, what you are saying only works with halves that capable of putting the other team in 2 minds.

Is that player Chad?

No.

Is that player Johnson?

Yes
 

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If he was to actually dummy the inside runner and run it himself or dish it out wide i'd have no issue with it.

But often does he ever do that?

You're posts are a never ending list of grievances made up as you go... wonder if you even remember what you're arguments are. From the amount of times you bring up the same ones, I can't imagine you do
 

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You're posts are a never ending list of grievances made up as you go... wonder if you even remember what you're arguments are. From the amount of times you bring up the same ones, I can't imagine you do
lol

you guys have excuses for Chad on every single thing he does.
 
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We'll keep him.

I have no intel but feel he wants to stick with the group he's been coming through the grades with.

And I know we've been having talks with him, guess that is intel.
 
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