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Trindalls short kicking game is crap - he needs to work on that

Chad will come back in but as I wrote when everyone was losing their loads over Flanagan leaving , Trindall is the future

Trindall will lead us to a future sucesses !

Are you basing that on the 3 games he’s played or watching him in junior grades?
 

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Can't remember Trindall throwing one inside ball.

You watch much of Cleary & his table topping Panthers? Turns his forwards back inside a lot. This idea that inside balls are somehow a bad thing baffles me. You rather the half go the expansive play if its not on?
 
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You watch much of Cleary & his table topping Panthers? Turns his forwards back inside a lot. This idea that inside balls are somehow a bad thing baffles me. You rather the half go the expansive play if its not on?

The idea of the inside ball is to draw the defender to the ball carrier then by doing so you great a gap for the inside receiver to go through.

Chad doesn't do this, but to be quite fair, no one does, it's used as just as a simple hit up.
 

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The idea of the inside ball is to draw the defender to the ball carrier then by doing so you great a gap for the inside receiver to go through.

Chad doesn't do this, but to be quite fair, no one does, it's used as just as a simple hit up.

The properly executed inside ball at the line is a thing of beauty - like the Papenhuyzen pass to NAS on the weekend, or the one Moses put on For Waqa Blake a few weeks ago.

The “turning forwards back inside” play has an entirely different function.
 
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The properly executed inside ball at the line is a thing of beauty - like the Papenhuyzen pass to NAS on the weekend, or the one Moses put on For Waqa Blake a few weeks ago.

The “turning forwards back inside” play has an entirely different function.

Exactly!

The problem is our half isn't engaging the defenders, the inside should be happening when the defender is at an arms distance from the ball holder.
 

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Exactly!

The problem is our half isn't engaging the defenders, the inside should be happening when the defender is at an arms distance from the ball holder.

That's not what I was saying at all. Both of these plays have their benefits. If you want to complain about someone, complain abut Allan Langer. He was the master of the early inside pass, and it's probably why every NRL half does it (or more accurately, why every coach wants his half to do it).
 
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That's not what I was saying at all. Both of these plays have their benefits. If you want to complain about someone, complain abut Allan Langer. He was the master of the early inside pass, and it's probably why every NRL half does it (or more accurately, why every coach wants his half to do it).

"Exactly" was to agreement to you.

The extra part was just a side note, and a critique of our current halves who just use it sparingly
 

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The idea of the inside ball is to draw the defender to the ball carrier then by doing so you great a gap for the inside receiver to go through.

Chad doesn't do this, but to be quite fair, no one does, it's used as just as a simple hit up.
Its dumb.

The forwards need to be getting the ball in line with the hooker to get as many metres as possible. Watch Melbourne, why do they throw so many ''near forward passes''? Because they are getting ball right on the advantage line. Its not even clever what they do, its what every team should do and I dont understand why they dont.

An inside ball from a half gives the other team time, and takes time away from us.
 

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around who

please say chad
please say chad
please say chad
 

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"Exactly" was to agreement to you.

The extra part was just a side note, and a critique of our current halves who just use it sparingly

I understand - I am just differentiating between the "at the line" type inside ball which you were describing, and the "turn a forward inside well before the line" type play - which are both useful.

Its dumb.

The forwards need to be getting the ball in line with the hooker to get as many metres as possible. Watch Melbourne, why do they throw so many ''near forward passes''? Because they are getting ball right on the advantage line. Its not even clever what they do, its what every team should do and I dont understand why they dont.

An inside ball from a half gives the other team time, and takes time away from us.

One of these bold parts is definitely true. Either it's dumb, or it's a smart play that you don't understand.
 

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One of these bold parts is definitely true. Either it's dumb, or it's a smart play that you don't understand.
The inside ball is only worthwhile if you are dragging defenders away from whoever is going to get the ball.

Apart from that, what does it do?

Chad doesnt do that, he take 2-3 steps and throws it back inside. The defensive line is sitting and waiting for it each and every time.
 
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none of this is going to matter soon, dogs and newcastle are sniffing around him

Well that's just messed up.

If we lose him to either one of those clubs, then I will really question the intelligence of our coach.
 
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Annoying but that’s the world of professional football. Hope we can sort it in our favour.
 

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"Exactly" was to agreement to you.

The extra part was just a side note, and a critique of our current halves who just use it sparingly

The inside ball is only worthwhile if you are dragging defenders away from whoever is going to get the ball.

Apart from that, what does it do?

Chad doesnt do that, he take 2-3 steps and throws it back inside. The defensive line is sitting and waiting for it each and every time.

You know it isn't just Chad doing it. Johnson does it just as much - because his coach wants him to.

There are several reasons why that play is useful. I'll put together something outside this thread explaining it.
 

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If we choose Chad over him, then we deserve to lose Trindall. No way he is hanging around another few years behind Chad
 

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You know it isn't just Chad doing it. Johnson does it just as much - because his coach wants him to.

There are several reasons why that play is useful. I'll put together something outside this thread explaining it.
Yep, I even saw Trindall doing it on the weekend. The reason people have an issue with Chad doing it is because he does SO much.

I can think of reasons outside of the inside runner getting the ball.
 

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The idea of the inside ball is to draw the defender to the ball carrier then by doing so you great a gap for the inside receiver to go through.

Chad doesn't do this, but to be quite fair, no one does, it's used as just as a simple hit up.

I mostly see it near the line. I would have thought the inside ball to a forward these days was to:

Draw defenders into the middle to create space outside
Give the halves time to set up the a play properly
Get the ball to the right position on the field for a set piece
 

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I mostly see it near the line. I would have thought the inside ball to a forward these days was to:

Draw defenders into the middle to create space outside
Give the halves time to set up the a play properly
Get the ball to the right position on the field for a set piece
Draw defenders into the middle to create space outside
Sure, but only if you're not actually giving the ball inside
Give the halves time to set up the a play properly
So a settler? can do without getting the halves involved. I'd rather the half not do this so they can look at whats going on for the next play
Get the ball to the right position on the field for a set piece
Can do with out the half getting involved
 
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