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Sparkles said:
You'd expect, like Nicho, that he'd get a good sized bump once he's proved he's capable. Which he might or might not do.
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If Critta put together a good year of form on a three year contract he has the whole next season (also presumably playing well) to try and squeeze an upgrade/extension out of club before he becomes eligible to negotiate end of season 2. I think being able to upgrade the last season of a good players contract is one of the best tools clubs have to retain their stars.

As you say, Hynes is same boat, he can negotiate from November this year.
If he is playing well could be better for both parties to extend and upgrade him mid year than leave it to go to market.

ie instead of us paying him (to use old numbers) 2023 600k, 2024 600k, 2025 1.1m, 2026 1.1m, 2027 1.1m because we had to fend off other offers we get in early and upgrade 2024 and pay him something like 2023 600k, 2024 800k, 2025 900k, 2026 900k, 2027 900k
Costs us an extra 200k up front on 2024 cap but saves us triple that over 2025-207.
Attractive to him as it locks in an extra 200k (almost) straight away with security, and knowing if he keeps killing it we can probably look at doing same again in 2026 when he turns 30.
 
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If Critta put together a good year of form on a three year contract he has the whole next season (also presumably playing well) to try and squeeze an upgrade/extension out of club before he becomes eligible to negotiate end of season 2. I think being able to upgrade the last season of a good players contract is one of the best tools clubs have to retain their stars.

As you say, Hynes is same boat, he can negotiate from November this year.
If he is playing well could be better for both parties to extend and upgrade him mid year than leave it to go to market.

ie instead of us paying him (to use old numbers) 2023 600k, 2024 600k, 2025 1.1m, 2026 1.1m, 2027 1.1m because we had to fend off other offers we get in early and upgrade 2024 and pay him something like 2023 600k, 2024 800k, 2025 900k, 2026 900k, 2027 900k
Costs us an extra 200k up front on 2024 cap but saves us triple that over 2025-207.
Attractive to him as it locks in an extra 200k (almost) straight away with security, and knowing if he keeps killing it we can probably look at doing same again in 2026 when he turns 30.
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It's a reasonable way to go about it. Maybe Fitz and Nicho could make that sort of long term agreement work.
 
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Skankhunt47 said:
Would anyone accept Kurt Mann in the trade for Miller? Need more locks 😎
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Listen to Bloke in Bar podcast?

He's a great 18th man and would do a good job of 14 when McInnes is starting in 13 (hopefully Dale doesn't miss as many this season though).
Kind of fighting for a spot with Tracey if Tracey doesn't make a full switch to focus on backs though.

At decent price he wouldn't be a bad pickup, versatile enough you'd find uses for him.
Has had some good patches maybe a better team would get some consistency out of him.

Just looking at his positional breakdown
Fullback 9 games
Wing 19
Centre 45
5/8 33
Halfback 6
Hooker 7
Lock 10
Bench 31
 
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bort said:
TIL every international team is called the Kangaroos
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Ah that’s right he was one of the Samoan boys. Well he would have played for the green and gold if he’d chosen to.
 
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Eddie Jones announced as the new wallabies coach and has his sights now set on

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Penisini
Big Nelson

Doesn’t affect us but rugby Australia are going to throw the bank at those 3 players.
 
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I’m hoping there’s a potential 3 way trade.

We release Miller
Knights release frizz to maybe Titans/Eels/Manly
Then we get one of their players.
 
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Skankhunt47 said:
Eddie Jones announced as the new wallabies coach and has his sights now set on

Sualli
Penisini
Big Nelson

Doesn’t affect us but rugby Australia are going to throw the bank at those 3 players.
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Suaalii would be the only real loss.
I enjoy Nelson when he is not crossing the line (and getting away with it) but oh well
Penis I don't really care about
Suaalii we shows a lot of promise and we haven't seen what he can do yet (plus love his big contacts from a back)

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I’m hoping there’s a potential 3 way trade.

We release Miller
Knights release frizz to maybe Titans/Eels/Manly
Then we get one of their players.
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So which on the outter player do we want?
David Fifita, Nathan Brown, Tom Turbo
 
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Proud Shark said:
Haha yep. I wouldn't even want gamble and he's well above Crossland in the pecking order.
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I'd take Gamble. He's doesn't really fill any need but doesn't look like we will get someone who does (I've kind of talked myself into we could make good use of Friz I guess).
He's more halves-y Tracey and I think don't underestimate the impact guys like that's energy has on training paddock. If you needed to play Gamble you'd be glad you had him and you know he'll try his dick off to make sure he is in the frame for selection, pushing Moylan to stay on his toes.
With 18th man likely to be activated a lot more often this year the likes of a Mann or Gamble could be very useful in that role

1 Dykes 6 Gamble 7 Trindall 9 Berrell 13 Magoulias 14 Puru is a very good Jets side and plenty of room to rotate Gamble & Trindall into 18th man as needed.
 
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