Witch Hunt ?
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Guys this stems from the Super League days.
Super League was Murdoch, News Ltd, Fox and the Daily Telegraph.
ARL was PBL, Packer, Arthurson, Gould, Channel 9 & the Herald.
The Sharks were a Super League team so no favours from the Herald.
Not only that the D Telegraph went after Mat Johns so its payback time for hitting a Channel 9 boy.
Super League was Murdoch, News Ltd, Fox and the Daily Telegraph.
ARL was PBL, Packer, Arthurson, Gould, Channel 9 & the Herald.
The Sharks were a Super League team so no favours from the Herald.
Not only that the D Telegraph went after Mat Johns so its payback time for hitting a Channel 9 boy.
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Oh just on that, there's talkback radio as well:
2GB- John Singleton- also invloved in or owns Blue Tongue Stadium, and backer for a Central Coast team.
2UE- I think that they have been recently taken over by fairfax.
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Porn shop king speaks out on Sharks: 'I don't give sex toys to anyone'
Porn shop king speaks out on Sharks: 'I don't give sex toys to anyone'Sydney Morning Herald, AustraliaAS THE Cronulla Sharks desperately cast about for a corporate saviour to rescue the club from its fleeing sponsors, one of the men at the centre of the latest furore has painted the club as a scapegoat. "It's wrong what they've done to the Sharks. ...
Source: http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/porn-shop-king-speaks-out-on-sharks-i-dont-give-sex-toys-toanyone/2009/05/21/1242498868990.html
Porn shop king speaks out on Sharks: 'I don't give sex toys to anyone'
Michael West
May 22, 2009
Con Ange … "I'm not a flesh pedlar." Photo: Anthony Johnson
AS THE Cronulla Sharks desperately cast about for a corporate saviour to rescue the club from its fleeing sponsors, one of the men at the centre of the latest furore has painted the club as a scapegoat.
"It's wrong what they've done to the Sharks. They've just crucified them," said the Queensland porn-shop owner and publican Con Ange. "I'm just disgusted at how Cronulla is being forced to bear the brunt of every problem in society."
Speaking exclusively to the Herald, Mr Ange said he had no particular connection with the Sharks apart from being a rugby league fanatic who would often go to three games a weekend.
"I'm a rugby league supporter. I'm a member of the One-Eyed Eagles at Manly with a bunch of other fanatics. We all got together and chipped in for a box."
Mr Ange first met the Sharks' chief executive, Tony Zappia, four years ago at the Parramatta club. "In the boxes you often meet the club executives."
He rejects claims that he has any links with prostitution. "The only hooker that I know is the No. 9 for the Sharks and his name is Corey Hughes. I'm not a flesh pedlar, nor have I ever been a flesh pedlar."
Mr Ange has strong views about the group sex revelations that triggered the recent uproar. "I'm in the adult industry and believe a woman has a choice. If a woman wants to have group sex she should be able to."
The same standard, he said, should apply to the players, who he claims are singled out for having sex when everybody does it.
"Everybody has sex. We need sex to evolve."
Mr Ange said the league identity Matthew Johns had been victimised. "I can't stand what they have done to Matty Johns. He had consensual sex with a woman and they have crucified him.
"Everyone should be accountable for their own actions"
Of the Christchurch woman who had sex with Johns and other Sharks, he said: "She knocked back players. She was in control. It's not as if the players were forcing themselves on her."
Mr Ange denies giving sex toys to the Sharks. "I've got adult stores in Brisbane but I don't give out sex toys to anyone."
He said he had asked a friend at the club for a jersey signed by the players.
"In return I sent them back a box with 22 Billabong T-shirts, a dozen Hustler T-shirts and a dozen Hustler hats. And that box I personally delivered and left at the front desk there." He also denies taking sex workers into the dressing rooms, saying the women in question worked for a brewery.
"After the game we went down to the tunnel. We waited outside the change rooms. At no stage did the girls enter the change rooms."
As for using the expressions Bitch One and Bitch Two?
"I have never used that terminology … I'm a family man. I've grown up with some kinds of morals and I don't refer to women [like that].
"It's degrading to women."
Porn shop king speaks out on Sharks: 'I don't give sex toys to anyone'Sydney Morning Herald, AustraliaAS THE Cronulla Sharks desperately cast about for a corporate saviour to rescue the club from its fleeing sponsors, one of the men at the centre of the latest furore has painted the club as a scapegoat. "It's wrong what they've done to the Sharks. ...
Source: http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/porn-shop-king-speaks-out-on-sharks-i-dont-give-sex-toys-toanyone/2009/05/21/1242498868990.html
Porn shop king speaks out on Sharks: 'I don't give sex toys to anyone'
Michael West
May 22, 2009
Con Ange … "I'm not a flesh pedlar." Photo: Anthony Johnson
AS THE Cronulla Sharks desperately cast about for a corporate saviour to rescue the club from its fleeing sponsors, one of the men at the centre of the latest furore has painted the club as a scapegoat.
"It's wrong what they've done to the Sharks. They've just crucified them," said the Queensland porn-shop owner and publican Con Ange. "I'm just disgusted at how Cronulla is being forced to bear the brunt of every problem in society."
Speaking exclusively to the Herald, Mr Ange said he had no particular connection with the Sharks apart from being a rugby league fanatic who would often go to three games a weekend.
"I'm a rugby league supporter. I'm a member of the One-Eyed Eagles at Manly with a bunch of other fanatics. We all got together and chipped in for a box."
Mr Ange first met the Sharks' chief executive, Tony Zappia, four years ago at the Parramatta club. "In the boxes you often meet the club executives."
He rejects claims that he has any links with prostitution. "The only hooker that I know is the No. 9 for the Sharks and his name is Corey Hughes. I'm not a flesh pedlar, nor have I ever been a flesh pedlar."
Mr Ange has strong views about the group sex revelations that triggered the recent uproar. "I'm in the adult industry and believe a woman has a choice. If a woman wants to have group sex she should be able to."
The same standard, he said, should apply to the players, who he claims are singled out for having sex when everybody does it.
"Everybody has sex. We need sex to evolve."
Mr Ange said the league identity Matthew Johns had been victimised. "I can't stand what they have done to Matty Johns. He had consensual sex with a woman and they have crucified him.
"Everyone should be accountable for their own actions"
Of the Christchurch woman who had sex with Johns and other Sharks, he said: "She knocked back players. She was in control. It's not as if the players were forcing themselves on her."
Mr Ange denies giving sex toys to the Sharks. "I've got adult stores in Brisbane but I don't give out sex toys to anyone."
He said he had asked a friend at the club for a jersey signed by the players.
"In return I sent them back a box with 22 Billabong T-shirts, a dozen Hustler T-shirts and a dozen Hustler hats. And that box I personally delivered and left at the front desk there." He also denies taking sex workers into the dressing rooms, saying the women in question worked for a brewery.
"After the game we went down to the tunnel. We waited outside the change rooms. At no stage did the girls enter the change rooms."
As for using the expressions Bitch One and Bitch Two?
"I have never used that terminology … I'm a family man. I've grown up with some kinds of morals and I don't refer to women [like that].
"It's degrading to women."
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Sergio van Dijk appreciates Dutch flavour abour Roar strip
Sergio van Dijk appreciates Dutch flavour abour Roar stripCourier Mail, AustraliaThen in Sydney you've got the Cronulla Sharks staggering from one scandal to another until it seems inevitable that they will finally disappear up their own annus horribilis. There are so many things going pear-shaped at the Sharks right now that I'm ...
Source: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25518171-5003412,00.html
Sergio van Dijk appreciates Dutch flavour abour Roar strip
Mike Colman
May 22, 2009 12:00am
THE hardest decision for a columnist to make this week was this: which issue to climb aboard?
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Then in Sydney you've got the Cronulla Sharks staggering from one scandal to another until it seems inevitable that they will finally disappear up their own annus horribilis.
There are so many things going pear-shaped at the Sharks right now that I'm just waiting for the Thailand "bar-mat mum" (as one Sydney newspaper has christened her) to be unmasked as a member of the Cronulla women's auxiliary.
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Sergio van Dijk appreciates Dutch flavour abour Roar stripCourier Mail, AustraliaThen in Sydney you've got the Cronulla Sharks staggering from one scandal to another until it seems inevitable that they will finally disappear up their own annus horribilis. There are so many things going pear-shaped at the Sharks right now that I'm ...
Source: http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,23739,25518171-5003412,00.html
Sergio van Dijk appreciates Dutch flavour abour Roar strip
Mike Colman
May 22, 2009 12:00am
THE hardest decision for a columnist to make this week was this: which issue to climb aboard?
<EDITED>
Then in Sydney you've got the Cronulla Sharks staggering from one scandal to another until it seems inevitable that they will finally disappear up their own annus horribilis.
There are so many things going pear-shaped at the Sharks right now that I'm just waiting for the Thailand "bar-mat mum" (as one Sydney newspaper has christened her) to be unmasked as a member of the Cronulla women's auxiliary.
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Goodbye Reni, your chances are finally up
Goodbye Reni, your chances are finally upThe Roar, AustraliaReni Maitua during the NRL Round 10, Penrith Panthers v Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks match at Penrith Stadium, Saturday, May 16, 2009. (AAP Image/Action Photographics, Renne McKay) Forget the push and shove after a few beers, forget public urination, ...
Source: http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/22/goodbye-reni-your-chances-are-finally-up/
Goodbye Reni, your chances are finally up
By Steve Kaless
22-May-2009
Reni Maitua during the NRL Round 10, Penrith Panthers v Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks match at Penrith Stadium, Saturday, May 16, 2009. (AAP Image/Action Photographics, Renne McKay)
Forget the push and shove after a few beers, forget public urination, and forget sex toys: the biggest ******** this season has to be the Sharks’ Reni Maitua.
In the past I’ve often felt the need to defend our sporting stars who I have have been victims of a hysterical public and overly judgmental media. But I draw the line at drug cheats.
Strangely, the Maitua case seems to have been treated as fairly run of the mill, while the headlines scream about shadow boxing CEOs (weird?) and hookers in the change room (even weirder).
While it’s unlikely to split public opinion, as drugs in sport tends to be one of the strongest motherhood statements around, except from the odd weirdo who watches too much cycling, just how big a clanger Reni Maitua has dropped needs to be mentioned.
It is worth recalling that many thought the sacking of Maitua from the Bulldogs was actually an error. They are pretty quiet now.
But once getting the boot, Maitua gave a few interviews where he talked about the need to get a settlement because of all his investments that his money was currently tied up in.
At the time I chuckled about him having one expensive hangover and how perhaps he should have considered his portfolio before a. having yet another bender b. switching off the alarm.
But if he is motivated by the retention of a positive yield on his investments, then what sort of advice did he listen to decide to load up on Clenbuterol. It doesn’t sound like the sort Warren Buffet hands out or you get at those swanky business breakfasts.
But for all the misbehaviour, performance enhancing drugs is probably one that the NRL must truly make a tougher than tough stand on as it eats away at the very core of what sport is all about.
The gladiatorial nature of sport is attractive because it is man on man, not man against man with half a chemist’s cabinet up his snout.
And while things like having a wee behind a tree or misbehaving in bar can be linked to poor behaviour in the wider society, you don’t see mums on holiday in Thailand loading up on steroids. Performing enhancing drugs aren’t about letting off steam or high jinx, it is about cheating.
That’s why if his B-sample is positive, then Maitua should face a life ban from the NRL.
People might be able to forgive all sorts of things, but the moment they suspect the action they are watching on the field is tainted in any way, it is all over.
I’ve actually worked with Reni in the past and in all my dealings with him, I must say I always found him to be someone you’d quickly refer to as a “good bloke.”
He was polite, honest and helpful, apart from being a tremendously naturally gifted footballer.
But sadly that last phrase shouldn’t be enough to save him from his own fate. It is a bit of tragedy that he should never play NRL again given the redemptive powers of the game.
But enough is enough and this is an issue no sport can afford to get wrong.
Goodbye Reni.
Goodbye Reni, your chances are finally upThe Roar, AustraliaReni Maitua during the NRL Round 10, Penrith Panthers v Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks match at Penrith Stadium, Saturday, May 16, 2009. (AAP Image/Action Photographics, Renne McKay) Forget the push and shove after a few beers, forget public urination, ...
Source: http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/22/goodbye-reni-your-chances-are-finally-up/
Goodbye Reni, your chances are finally up
By Steve Kaless
22-May-2009
Reni Maitua during the NRL Round 10, Penrith Panthers v Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks match at Penrith Stadium, Saturday, May 16, 2009. (AAP Image/Action Photographics, Renne McKay)
Forget the push and shove after a few beers, forget public urination, and forget sex toys: the biggest ******** this season has to be the Sharks’ Reni Maitua.
In the past I’ve often felt the need to defend our sporting stars who I have have been victims of a hysterical public and overly judgmental media. But I draw the line at drug cheats.
Strangely, the Maitua case seems to have been treated as fairly run of the mill, while the headlines scream about shadow boxing CEOs (weird?) and hookers in the change room (even weirder).
While it’s unlikely to split public opinion, as drugs in sport tends to be one of the strongest motherhood statements around, except from the odd weirdo who watches too much cycling, just how big a clanger Reni Maitua has dropped needs to be mentioned.
It is worth recalling that many thought the sacking of Maitua from the Bulldogs was actually an error. They are pretty quiet now.
But once getting the boot, Maitua gave a few interviews where he talked about the need to get a settlement because of all his investments that his money was currently tied up in.
At the time I chuckled about him having one expensive hangover and how perhaps he should have considered his portfolio before a. having yet another bender b. switching off the alarm.
But if he is motivated by the retention of a positive yield on his investments, then what sort of advice did he listen to decide to load up on Clenbuterol. It doesn’t sound like the sort Warren Buffet hands out or you get at those swanky business breakfasts.
But for all the misbehaviour, performance enhancing drugs is probably one that the NRL must truly make a tougher than tough stand on as it eats away at the very core of what sport is all about.
The gladiatorial nature of sport is attractive because it is man on man, not man against man with half a chemist’s cabinet up his snout.
And while things like having a wee behind a tree or misbehaving in bar can be linked to poor behaviour in the wider society, you don’t see mums on holiday in Thailand loading up on steroids. Performing enhancing drugs aren’t about letting off steam or high jinx, it is about cheating.
That’s why if his B-sample is positive, then Maitua should face a life ban from the NRL.
People might be able to forgive all sorts of things, but the moment they suspect the action they are watching on the field is tainted in any way, it is all over.
I’ve actually worked with Reni in the past and in all my dealings with him, I must say I always found him to be someone you’d quickly refer to as a “good bloke.”
He was polite, honest and helpful, apart from being a tremendously naturally gifted footballer.
But sadly that last phrase shouldn’t be enough to save him from his own fate. It is a bit of tragedy that he should never play NRL again given the redemptive powers of the game.
But enough is enough and this is an issue no sport can afford to get wrong.
Goodbye Reni.
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Magnay - PLEASE EXPLAIN
Following this woman's story yesterday, where she asserted the Sharks had direct links to an Adult Shop owner, distributed sex toys to players and had hookers in the dressing sheds, she stated on the Footy Show that this was only 9/10's of the story.
Well Ms Magner, will you explain this story and expose your sources?
http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhq...s-out-on-sharks/2009/05/21/1242498868990.html
and While you are at it Ms Magner, do you not see, as the rest of us do, that todays story about Zappia's activities at the Eels, is showing a clear and unmistakable witch hunt on your part, which only serves to embroil our club in issues which have absolutely nothing to do with us?
http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/zappias-queue-jumper/2009/05/21/1242498869023.html
SHAME Ms MAGNER............SHAME
Following this woman's story yesterday, where she asserted the Sharks had direct links to an Adult Shop owner, distributed sex toys to players and had hookers in the dressing sheds, she stated on the Footy Show that this was only 9/10's of the story.
Well Ms Magner, will you explain this story and expose your sources?
http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/lhq...s-out-on-sharks/2009/05/21/1242498868990.html
and While you are at it Ms Magner, do you not see, as the rest of us do, that todays story about Zappia's activities at the Eels, is showing a clear and unmistakable witch hunt on your part, which only serves to embroil our club in issues which have absolutely nothing to do with us?
http://www.smh.com.au/news/lhqnews/zappias-queue-jumper/2009/05/21/1242498869023.html
SHAME Ms MAGNER............SHAME
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Yep.
If what Zapia did was so bad, why wasnt it reported at the time?
Absolute witch hunt. I'm furious.
If what Zapia did was so bad, why wasnt it reported at the time?
Absolute witch hunt. I'm furious.
She's not going to reveal her sources.. no journalist would ever do that or their contacts would never talk to them.
It's interesting, she's a former St George Leader journo who joined the Herald about 10 years ago. Although she comes across a little hard, she knows the Sharks well.
Personally, as hard as it is to see journos like her exposing these problems, they are doing us all a great favour. It's only when these scandals are aired that real change will come and we can rebuild.
There might be some holes in what she's writing because people aren't being totally honest, but you can bet she's close to the truth.
The problem with Fairfax and News Ltd is that they have different agendas. Fairfax calls it as it is, and burns a lot of bridges along the way. At least you know no one is a protected species.
News Ltd papers on the other hand tend to report bits of stories while protecting its mates, like Tony Zappia by not going for the jugular when it just might be warranted. (Phil Rothfield said in his blog yesterday that he told Zappia this whole scandal was doing him damage. That's friendly advise to a mate that he should get out. But is there really a place for that in journalism?) You never know what the Tele isn't telling us?
I learned long ago never to shoot the messenger. You might not like what they write, but the real target is not the media, it's the club directors who have blindly run our club into the ground and allowed these issues to fester. The culture they've created since the John Lang days is nothing short of scandalous.
Its the media, they are blood suckers they will run any story for a buck, they don’t care if its going to destroy a club!
it makes you wonder the bulldogs had allot more scandals and didn’t get kicked when down as much as we have been.
mate take my word for it the only way we can shut up the media is showing up in force game day tomorrow.... we need a packed house that will shut the media up.
it makes you wonder the bulldogs had allot more scandals and didn’t get kicked when down as much as we have been.
mate take my word for it the only way we can shut up the media is showing up in force game day tomorrow.... we need a packed house that will shut the media up.
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Hey, I am not supporting Zappia or our inept Board. IMO they should all **** off and let us start fresh, with new ideas.
What I am saying is that the fundamental points this woman raised are wrong and she should admit as much.
If she wants Zappia's blood, good for her, I dont give a rats arse, but don't destroy my club doing it!
What I am saying is that the fundamental points this woman raised are wrong and she should admit as much.
If she wants Zappia's blood, good for her, I dont give a rats arse, but don't destroy my club doing it!
Yeah it's painful when it involes our beloved sharks. But i've read those two articles you posted links to and I reckon they are stories that need telling. I don't want half the picture on what sort of bloke Tony Zappia is, I want the full story.
She writes:
Right or wrong, that starts to give us an idea of how Zappia operates. It tells me he didn't come to the Sharks with the clean guy image that we all assumed. He was reprimanded by his former employer, for something minor sure, but he was still on the nose in some quarters.
Add to that the payout after while shadow boxing with a female employee and it doesn't look good.
I think Tony Zappia has done a decent job under very difficult circumstances at cronulla. I even feel sorry for him and his family.
But if there are skeletons in his closet, I want to know about them.
So would I. But i'm basing it on something.
If you are rubbishing the media and saying it's all lies, why do you want Zappia and the board gone? Where do you get the info to form these decisions if it's not from the media?
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I am basing it on poor management, years of it. Nothing to do with the media! This Board has been inept. It's strategic planning has soley been based on trying to get a development off the ground, with what appears no back up plan if that fails. Where is the risk management planning in that? I am also concerned about what certain Board Members may gain from the approval of such development and wonder if full disclosure of personal involvement has been forthcoming.
Zappia is the representaive of the Board. As CEO "his" comments to the media that he is sick of his family watching him go through this, is a clear indication he is not the strong leader this club needs.
Zappia is the representaive of the Board. As CEO "his" comments to the media that he is sick of his family watching him go through this, is a clear indication he is not the strong leader this club needs.
You could tell she was lying last night on the footy show. Did anyone pick it up?? when Phil Gould was asking her questions about the article her face was turning red it was obvious she was moving around and looked extremely uncomfortable. I rekon she saw the 2 women in there and she probabley assumed they were prostitutes that's just low!!! seriously and i don't think anyone on the panel last night believed her story!
anyone agree with me?
anyone agree with me?
Well best you start doing your own digging, because you clearly would be very annoyed if the media dared to write anything on that.