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I don't have an issue with not wanting him at the club, I have an issue with you wishing another concussion on someone with a history of concussions.
So hypothetical situation
Would you rather
A) Wade get another concussion and not be re-signed
B) Him stay injury free and continue playing at the level he is till the end of the year, getting a 1 yr extension on sat $350k, then holding back development of Wilton and also neutralising Talakai at left centre because the ball doesnt go any futher than Wade
 

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So hypothetical situation
Would you rather
A) Wade get another concussion and not be re-signed
B) Him stay injury free and continue playing at the level he is till the end of the year, getting a 1 yr extension on sat $350k, then holding back development of Wilton and also neutralising Talakai at left centre because the ball doesnt go any futher than Wade
I'd prefer he doesn't get another concussion and trust the club and Fitz to make the right call.

Wishing an injury on one of your players is ****.
 

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Wade hasn't been the disaster we were fearful of coming back into the team and he is playing better and getting fitter every week so it's presumptuous to say after a couple games this is his new level.

Yes it would be a long shot to suggest he will get back to peak Wade or that the old style he played will suit us necessarily but that's why modifying his role is important.

Some people say Gal played a season or 2 too long but I don't agree with that. We still needed him as other younger forwards/leaders weren't stepping up enough for us and Gal played some of his most consistent and disciplined footy in the later stages of his career. Simplifying his role and taking pressure off him in terms of play making and not needing to be the hero helped immensely with this.

As much as I rate Wilton he still has plenty to work on and can still do that if he has to come from the bench for the time being. He will keep developing for us

I'm happy to give Wade rest of the season to earn a contract for 2023 and see what type of footy and roles he can play for us
 

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So hypothetical situation
Would you rather
A) Wade get another concussion and not be re-signed
B) Him stay injury free and continue playing at the level he is till the end of the year, getting a 1 yr extension on sat $350k, then holding back development of Wilton and also neutralising Talakai at left centre because the ball doesnt go any futher than Wade
You're missing the point mate.

Forget about contracts, playing etc - it was a low blow wishing concussion anyone, let alone a club legend.
 

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You're missing the point mate.

Forget about contracts, playing etc - it was a low blow wishing concussion anyone, let alone a club legend.
I'd prefer he doesn't get another concussion and trust the club and Fitz to make the right call.

Wishing an injury on one of your players is ****.
Ok, no worries i accept the criticism of my post and admit it was harsh and in bad taste.
 

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To The Punisher’s point about concussion.………

I’m thinking if Wade wants a payday and to play in France (and lifestyle) then he probably should go sooner rather than later otherwise he may miss the boat altogether.

Maybe Wade needs to consider going earlier and leaving his partner here until citizenship is confirmed.
Hard call with leaving her and the kids behind
I know and the time apart obviously depends on how much longer she needs but there is nothing stopping her from a few “European holidays” during that time.
The risk for him if he doesn’t go is that he might miss out altogether if he cops another head knock.

He does deserve a shot over there and a big payday/ superannuation payment and I’d be hoping he gets one (form a Super league team).
Given kid is still a baby basically I think*, and wife isn't from NSW, leaving them behind there for more than a few months probably isn't an option.

The ability to just go on 'holidays' to Europe is good in theory but once she has submitted her application for citizenship she can't go anywhere as you need to be in the country when they make a decision. That can be a 6-18 month window you can't leave Australia.
Getting it finalised with a ceremony can be another year (although typically less), I think you can leave the country again between approval and ceremony.

Did hear of someone getting an online ceremony a week after approval recently but that is outrageously quick even given their unusual circumstances.

*second kid is 2, I was thinking they were born last year
 
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Ok, no worries i accept the criticism of my post and admit it was harsh and in bad taste.
I completely understand people not wanting him here next year, I also don't want him getting in Wilton's way.

He's actually not going to bad in the middle. I wouldn't be bothered in the slightest if we didn't keep him, but it also wouldn't bother me if we offered him something like 250k - 300k to stick around and and play from the bench.
 

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Cheaply and as a middle I don't mind keeping him.

Wait and see how he goes over next 10 rounds or so. Can't imagine any other NRL club will try and snatch him up unless he starts banging so no rush to re-sign him.
He personally should realise his best pay chances come with showing good form so shouldn't pressure back for a contract either.

I love Wade, only players whose sig I managed to get on my Premiers jersey.
Sucks so much to see him and Fifita struggling along like they have been. Sucks watching them struggle also sucks a lot of (non-Sharks) fans are going to remember them as some dude who was probably briefly good for a bit but mostly just was fat and could barely make an NRL team and they deserve better.

If you take their best years and run them through to now are they both in conversation as Immortals?
 

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Cheaply and as a middle I don't mind keeping him.

Wait and see how he goes over next 10 rounds or so. Can't imagine any other NRL club will try and snatch him up unless he starts banging so no rush to re-sign him.
He personally should realise his best pay chances come with showing good form so shouldn't pressure back for a contract either.

I love Wade, only players whose sig I managed to get on my Premiers jersey.
Sucks so much to see him and Fifita struggling along like they have been. Sucks watching them struggle also sucks a lot of (non-Sharks) fans are going to remember them as some dude who was probably briefly good for a bit but mostly just was fat and could barely make an NRL team and they deserve better.

If you take their best years and run them through to now are they both in conversation as Immortals?
Fifita yes. Wade no chance
 

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If Fifita played the way he did in 2016 for his whole career he would go down as the best prop to ever play the game imo.
 

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Cheaply and as a middle I don't mind keeping him.

Wait and see how he goes over next 10 rounds or so. Can't imagine any other NRL club will try and snatch him up unless he starts banging so no rush to re-sign him.
He personally should realise his best pay chances come with showing good form so shouldn't pressure back for a contract either.

I love Wade, only players whose sig I managed to get on my Premiers jersey.
Sucks so much to see him and Fifita struggling along like they have been. Sucks watching them struggle also sucks a lot of (non-Sharks) fans are going to remember them as some dude who was probably briefly good for a bit but mostly just was fat and could barely make an NRL team and they deserve better.

If you take their best years and run them through to now are they both in conversation as Immortals?
Sharks Immortals I assume?

They couldn't even give Fifita MOM in the grand final
 

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Id actually prefer we kept Fifita on a low contract than Wade.
Feel Fifita actually fires the team up when hes on.
Even Ennis mentioned on Fox that when he went off in the Titans game he was screaming at players from sidelines to stay switched on - i dont see Wade doing that or inspiring the team in the same fashion
 

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That’s was bad.
I don’t begrudge Lewie but Fifita was more deserving
I actually agree with Lewis for MoM.
He was immense in that game.
And dont forget when he made that break and was pulled down just short he didnt try to promote the ball as many others would have in that situation which would have led to a Storm penalty for double movement.
Instead i think we scored via Barba on next set cause we kept pressire on Melb
 

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I actually agree with Lewis for MoM.
He was immense in that game.
And dont forget when he made that break and was pulled down just short he didnt try to promote the ball as many others would have in that situation which would have led to a Storm penalty for double movement.
Instead i think we scored via Barba on next set cause we kept pressire on Melb
Lewis did play well that game. Actually every game he played for us he put in 100%
 

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Id actually prefer we kept Fifita on a low contract than Wade.
Feel Fifita actually fires the team up when hes on.
Even Ennis mentioned on Fox that when he went off in the Titans game he was screaming at players from sidelines to stay switched on - i dont see Wade doing that or inspiring the team in the same fashion
While I do know where you are coming from just because you don't see something doesn't mean it is not real.
Maybe Wade helps/inspires players in ways other than screaming at them?

Fifita is only able to play like 10-20 with the halftime break in the middle, in defense of Graham he played nearly 60 this week.
He could probably wave his arms around on the sideline a lot if he was there most of the game too
 
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I actually agree with Lewis for MoM.
He was immense in that game.
And dont forget when he made that break and was pulled down just short he didnt try to promote the ball as many others would have in that situation which would have led to a Storm penalty for double movement.
Instead i think we scored via Barba on next set cause we kept pressire on Melb
Yes true but I still think Fifita had more impact overall.
Like I said, I don’t begrudge Lewie winning it. He was definitely up there. I just felt Fifita was a deserving winner and was hindered by his reputation (an unconscious bias against him perhaps).
 

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Yes true but I still think Fifita had more impact overall.
Like I said, I don’t begrudge Lewie winning it. He was definitely up there. I just felt Fifita was a deserving winner and was hindered by his reputation (an unconscious bias against him perhaps).
I think they consciously chose not to give it to Fifita.
But Lewis was a great second choice and the only option where you kind of can't really argue it too much because he also had a fantastic game and is loved by all. Nobody would really kick off much suggestion Lewis was an unworthy winner.
 
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