Remember how everyone was burning Newcastle recently and Saints before that for attempting "buy" premierships? And now most of you want this **** head running around disgracing the Sharks' good name in hope of a premiership that TODD CARNEY WILL NOT BRING US? you cunce are ****ed.
Should we sign Carney or not? Yes or No?
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snowman
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the sharks good name? lol
Just in case anyone missed this article
Just in case anyone missed this article- note the bits in bold.
What happens when he gets himself locked up? Those saying that the Sharks brand won't take a hit- bulls***, and you all know it. A bloke farts at the wrong time down at Wooloware and the media are all over it. We will be portrayed as the bumbling idiot, the fool who was stupid enough (desperate enough) to take the punt on an idiot like Carney.
Has anyone actually provided a reason for him being better with us? Or is the theory that we're just gonna let the bloke drink? I'd be fine with that, except that the Telegraph will follow him with a camera and a big flash and he'll on the back page doing who knows what every week. TBH, I don't really care, but its not good for the brand- trust me on that.
Secondly, you let him get pissed whenever he wants and he will farrk up again- i.e., he will do something illegal. And then he'll go to jail. Farrks our season right there and then huh?
Or conversely, we don't let him drink. How the hell are we gonna make that work? When the Roosters couldn't, despite their massive coin and media influence?
I know its tempting. Carney is a great player at his best, and a good one at his worst. 20% of me wants him at the Sharks yesterday and a big up yours to the media. Then the 80%- the rational bit- realises that the other 20% is talking out of his arse when he says that Carney will be okay at the Sharks. Just dreamin'.
We are simply not a Club that can go from zero to champs in one fell swoop. It was always gonna be hard. Damn hard, and painful, and embarrassing. But if anything has come out of this season, its been three (not just two, but three) halves that are already NRL standard, or will be by the start of 2012. Have some faith in Kelly and Townsend rather than dreamin about what might be.
Just in case anyone missed this article- note the bits in bold.
What happens when he gets himself locked up? Those saying that the Sharks brand won't take a hit- bulls***, and you all know it. A bloke farts at the wrong time down at Wooloware and the media are all over it. We will be portrayed as the bumbling idiot, the fool who was stupid enough (desperate enough) to take the punt on an idiot like Carney.
Has anyone actually provided a reason for him being better with us? Or is the theory that we're just gonna let the bloke drink? I'd be fine with that, except that the Telegraph will follow him with a camera and a big flash and he'll on the back page doing who knows what every week. TBH, I don't really care, but its not good for the brand- trust me on that.
Secondly, you let him get pissed whenever he wants and he will farrk up again- i.e., he will do something illegal. And then he'll go to jail. Farrks our season right there and then huh?
Or conversely, we don't let him drink. How the hell are we gonna make that work? When the Roosters couldn't, despite their massive coin and media influence?
I know its tempting. Carney is a great player at his best, and a good one at his worst. 20% of me wants him at the Sharks yesterday and a big up yours to the media. Then the 80%- the rational bit- realises that the other 20% is talking out of his arse when he says that Carney will be okay at the Sharks. Just dreamin'.
We are simply not a Club that can go from zero to champs in one fell swoop. It was always gonna be hard. Damn hard, and painful, and embarrassing. But if anything has come out of this season, its been three (not just two, but three) halves that are already NRL standard, or will be by the start of 2012. Have some faith in Kelly and Townsend rather than dreamin about what might be.
Mark^Bastard
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I just want to state for the record that a large part of the reason I don't want Todd Carney is because I don't want him as an NRL player. I want to back our own players in the halves over him. I'm sure if he was a saint I'd think differently but a large part of me not wanting him is for reasons other than the fact he's 'bad' off the field.
Obviously his off-field behaviour can affect his on-field behaviour.
He does have a lot of natural talent, but he's not anything like a real halves leader.
Obviously his off-field behaviour can affect his on-field behaviour.
He does have a lot of natural talent, but he's not anything like a real halves leader.
Pretty much my view too. I think Kelly is the best prospect we've had come though for a decade. He'll do the job at 5/8th.
Carney can drink all he likes but its simply not going to help him or the team if he's in the paper every other day cos he got kicked out of Northies or because he's been done for DUI again and is getting sent to jail.
snowman
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we were already in the paper for that... non event
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and what about Michael Vick
Not if its Carney and not if its weekly.
snowman
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not if.. what if..
what if 2012 comes and the world ends...
what if 2012 comes and the world ends...
Hahahahaha.
That's farrrrrrking ironic.
"What if he doesn't screw up again?"
"What if Gal can straighten him out?"
"What if he wins us a Premiership?"
I know what's more likely given recent history- Todd Carney getting himself in to trouble on the piss or the Sharks winning a Premiership because of one signing.
Youse are all dreaming.
haha. cmon champ. we do have a rep as a community club, a local club, and despite our disgrace in the media end of '08, we've got a pretty positive vibe despite the fact that we are losers.
snowman
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im not, i havent said he wont get on the drink again... i know he will
however, if it is just that, he goes to northies, has a beer at 2 am and gets a taxi home... go to the media and congratulate him
tell me why going out and having a beer when you are 26 is a problem? i do it every weekend. hell, i do it before i play sometimes.
his days of pissing on people seem to be behind him, he just has beers... oh know, look out...
maybe we should go back to the 1920's and ban alcholo (thanks underbelly)
ab, can you dig up the second part of the article you posted... the one where the same magistrate came out and said she had been a bit harsh on him... or we only looking at this arguement through 1 eye
my final arguement... if it is true that paul gallen and shane flanagan want him, we should welcome him to the shire
our reputation is tarnished no matter what...
sign him... **** the world
im curious... what trouble was he in this year?
what has he done that was immoraly, in-humane, or against the law?
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Mark^Bastard
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Why are the pro-Carney guys focusing only on the times he "went out, had a drink, got a Taxi" and not on the examples I've brought up countless times where he asked his coach for the game off to chill with his mum and then went and gronked on.
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bjrshark
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/sport/tim-smith-fined-550-for-loitering-outside-a-cronulla-nightclub/story-e6frg7mf-1226044197646
it is the **** house reporting like this which is just a news site filler that is the concern on carney.
if this happened to stapo/ike/mat wright...... would never had heard about it.
I WANT CARNEY... but this sort of **** will damaged the chances of D.I. and flannagan accepting the opportunity.
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snowman
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ok, so he had time off to chill with his mum... instead he went out and had a drink with a team mate who then punched his misses?
my question to you mark, would we have found out if watts hadnt been a girl hitter? the answer is probably no?
why to the con carney ignore the fact that he was in a 12 step program and taken out by the roosters to play us? does it sound like the club who told the nrl they were going to rehabilitate him, actually did?
no it doesnt... there are 2 shoes on the foot... by there is no point arguing about it from either side...
1 majority rules by rape side want carney
1 side who want local juniors to guide us to no where dont want him
wait until he is signed, or officially red lined before this gets any more heated
no, you wouldnt, because the media dont follow them
loitering... getting in a cab at 2am... whats the bnig ****in deal?
paper filler...
my question to you mark, would we have found out if watts hadnt been a girl hitter? the answer is probably no?
why to the con carney ignore the fact that he was in a 12 step program and taken out by the roosters to play us? does it sound like the club who told the nrl they were going to rehabilitate him, actually did?
no it doesnt... there are 2 shoes on the foot... by there is no point arguing about it from either side...
1 majority rules by rape side want carney
1 side who want local juniors to guide us to no where dont want him
wait until he is signed, or officially red lined before this gets any more heated
no, you wouldnt, because the media dont follow them
loitering... getting in a cab at 2am... whats the bnig ****in deal?
paper filler...
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Hahaha, when did this happen mate?
Mark^Bastard
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Does it matter if we found out or not? Are you saying what he did would be okay as long as the club and media didn't find out about it?
He lied to his club, and asked for the game off only to go out and party. With the money these players are getting that is just unacceptable. The fact that the Roosters went from grand finalists to nobodies and he just goes and does that speaks volumes to how much he actually cares about his career.
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