Should we sign Carney or not? Yes or No?

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A.Snowden

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Stuart said he would buy him, and that clubs should take him on what he was last year. Ikin is the same, but he is a goose. The other blokes are against it.
 

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Ricky summed it up. Like I said, he hasn't done that much wrong when compared to others. Media have beat it up. Give him a go, its his personal brand that would suffer, not a club that gives him a chance, not the NRL
 

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Does anyone else get an overpowering feeling to punch dean richie in the face, ricky was pretty spot on doest take away thw risk but a risk is a choice and someones gonna have to make it
 

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Does anyone else get an overpowering feeling to punch dean richie in the face, ricky was pretty spot on doest take away thw risk but a risk is a choice and someones gonna have to make it

:No: i usually dont like the bloke, but in this instance, i am in agreeance.
 

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Does anyone else get an overpowering feeling to punch dean richie in the face, ricky was pretty spot on doest take away thw risk but a risk is a choice and someones gonna have to make it

any face re-arrangement to bulldogs face will always be an improvement
 

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Todd who?

Yeah lets listen to Sticky - he has brought us nothing but joy!
 

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Who gives 2 s**** what ricky and ikin and dean ritchie think. This is exactly why Carney is in the place he is in. If the media didn't blow it all up in the first place, Ricky and Ikin wouldn't be talking about it and bulldog wouldn't be writing about it. Sign him up yesterday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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we need Carney.
yes to him.
we need a player who can give the backline direction.
we need Carney.
 

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While I'm not a supporter of signing Carney, I've thought about this and I think if this was just about signing Todd Carney the footballer this poll would be 100% yes.

There shouldn't be any discussion as to whether his acquisition would improve or football team in the short term, because we know it would. Despite his off field dramas Carney was a very good player in Canberra too - so 2010 wasn't a flash in the pan.

This really should be just a question of whether the short term gain justifies the risk to the club and the long term ramifications of possibly losing one or two of Graham, Kelly, Townsend.
 

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What happens when he gets himself locked up?

Todd Carney given good behaviour bond
Britt Smith
April 6, 2011
AAP

NRL Sydney Roosters star Todd Carney has been put on a good behaviour bond for drink-driving after a magistrate warned he was only narrowly avoiding jail.

Details of Carney's alcoholism and "shocking" driving record were aired in Waverley Local Court on Wednesday, leading magistrate Jacqueline Milledge to hand the 2010 Dally M medallist a six-month suspended jail term.

But Ms Milledge was forced to amend the sentence hours later, after finding there was no provision for incarceration on the low-range drink-driving charge.

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In handing down her initial decision, Ms Milledge warned Carney not to put another foot wrong and said he was within "a hair's breadth" of being sent to prison.

She said she had decided to give him a discount based on his good attitude and his efforts to overcome a drinking problem.

In the amended decision, no conviction was recorded and Carney was placed on a 24-month good behaviour bond.

The court was told the 24-year-old Carney was trying to turn his life around and had started a "positive lifestyle" program with The Salvation Army.

He planned to volunteer with that organisation in the future, and was also completing a traffic offenders' program, undergoing counselling and attending Alcoholics Anonymous meetings.

The court was told Carney "fell apart" when his father died, aged 57, after being diagnosed with dementia in 2006.

"During that period he didn't cope well and the offences are there to be seen," Carney's lawyer, Stephen Alexander said.

The offences included two previous drink-driving offences and charges of dangerous driving and driving while disqualified.

The rugby league international last month pleaded guilty to a low-range drink-driving offence after he was pulled over for a random breath test in the eastern suburb of Coogee at about 7am on February 26.

Still on P-plates, he returned a blood-alcohol level of 0.052. P-plate drivers are not allowed to have any alcohol in their system while driving.

"He has hit rock bottom," Mr Alexander said, adding that the footballer's contract with the Sydney Roosters was "on the line" and the club had already fined him $10,000.

Carney told the magistrate he had let himself and his family down.

"The hardest thing for me was to admit I had a drink problem," he said.

Ms Milledge said Carney's "lifestyle has been reckless" despite his being given a great gift.

"Your driving record says to me you are somebody who needs to be taught a lesson," she said.

She originally disqualified him from driving for 10 months, but she later said he would not lose his licence as he had been put on a bond with no conviction recorded.

"You can't put a foot wrong - you were destined for that door," Ms Milledge said, referring to the exit leading to the courthouse cells.

Earlier, Mr Alexander had asked for the matter to be heard at 2pm (AEST) instead of in the morning, in an effort to avoid media attention.

The magistrate refused, saying the court wasn't run by appointment and threatened to deal with the matter in Mr Alexander's and Carney's absence.

Mr Alexander appeared about 15 minutes later with Carney, who was dressed in a sharp suit, the footballer's mother Leanne and a Salvation Army representative.

Ms Milledge berated Mr Alexander for his "disgraceful" and "unbelievable tardiness" and said his client wouldn't be given any special treatment because of his celebrity status.

"All men are equal in this court," she said.

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What happens when he gets himself locked up? Those saying that the Sharks brand won't take a hit- bulls***, and you all know it. A bloke farts at the wrong time down at Wooloware and the media are all over it. We will be portrayed as the bumbling idiot, the fool who was stupid enough (desperate enough) to take the punt on an idiot like Carney.

Has anyone actually provided a reason for him being better with us? Or is the theory that we're just gonna let the bloke drink? I'd be fine with that, except that the Telegraph will follow him with a camera and a big flash and he'll on the back page doing who knows what every week. TBH, I don't really care, but its not good for the brand- trust me on that.

Secondly, you let him get pissed whenever he wants and he will farrk up again- i.e., he will do something illegal. And then he'll go to jail. Farrks our season right there and then huh?

Or conversely, we don't let him drink. How the hell are we gonna make that work? When the Roosters couldn't, despite their massive coin and media influence?

I know its tempting. Carney is a great player at his best, and a good one at his worst. 20% of me wants him at the Sharks yesterday and a big up yours to the media. Then the 80%- the rational bit- realises that the other 20% is talking out of his arse when he says that Carney will be okay at the Sharks. Just dreamin'.

We are simply not a Club that can go from zero to champs in one fell swoop. It was always gonna be hard. Damn hard, and painful, and embarrassing. But if anything has come out of this season, its been three (not just two, but three) halves that are already NRL standard, or will be by the start of 2012. Have some faith in Kelly and Townsend rather than dreamin about what might be.
 

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Your just trying to mess up this thread AB. Stop making sense. It hurts my head
 

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Are you trying to silence AB because he is in the minority? Ochlocrat!
 
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