Round 13, 2010: Sharks 42 - Roosters 18 at SFS

[BurgoShark]

All I want is Tautai gone, anything else I dont care about, just get rid of Tautai. Poms, Stapo, Wright, Bukuya. Dont care.

agreed, but not for Poms. Anyone else I'm OK with. Poms is poison.

 

[ABshark]

Stats don't really tell the story here mate. Wright rarely played a full game and I can remember at least twice when bad misses by Wright cost us the game winning try. As I said, these problems seemed to be exclusively when he was defending on the left. I thought his defense when playing right centre was spot on - he just never got the ball on that side.

Also - a terrible read is different from a missed tackle and doesn't show up on a stat sheet anywhere (because you were out of position and never actually "attempted" a tackle).

I am happy for him to get another go, and ecstatic if it keeps Poms out of the 17, but just want to highlight that he does have a history of defensive errors when playing on the left.

Again - I haven't seen him play this year. It's possible (or likely) that the coaching staff identified this in the off-season and that he has been working very hard to fix it.

... and god help us if we hold Folau up as a shining example of how to defend in the centres. He's always been a liability.

Your 'defensive reads' point is a fair one, but I still think his defensive lapses have been exaggerated. This, coming from a club that had Simmo in the centres for a season or two! My point with the figures was that Wright is far from hopeless in defence.

I think you might be confused by thinking of him playing on the left all the time. He played right centre mostly last year (replacing Simo). Mitch Brown/Pom/Reece played left. Check the footage of us losing to Souths in the final game for instance where he misses that tackle on Geddes for Souths to win at the death (right centre off the bench- see youtube), the game against the warriors (youtube), the game against the raiders (youtube). Wright&Fergo has indicated that his natural position is in fact left centre, so I would expect him to be more comfortable playing on that side of the field, and he would probably defend better there too.

I want to see him get a crack at left centre this weekend. Shaun Kenny-Dowell ain't the toughest bloke to come up against either in attack or defense.

 

[Ramzyv1]

Your 'defensive reads' point is a fair one, but I still think his defensive lapses have been exaggerated. This, coming from a club that had Simmo in the centres for a season or two! My point with the figures was that Wright is far from hopeless in defence.

I think you might be confused by thinking of him playing on the left all the time. He played right centre mostly last year (replacing Simo). Mitch Brown/Pom/Reece played left. Check the footage of us losing to Souths in the final game for instance where he misses that tackle on Geddes for Souths to win at the death (right centre off the bench- see youtube), the game against the warriors (youtube), the game against the raiders (youtube). Wright&Fergo has indicated that his natural position is in fact left centre, so I would expect him to be more comfortable playing on that side of the field, and he would probably defend better there too.

I want to see him get a crack at left centre this weekend. Shaun Kenny-Dowell ain't the toughest bloke to come up against either in attack or defense.

Kenny-Dowell always scores alot of points against us though, I can tell you he will be in my fantasy team this week. I wouldnt want a weaker defender up against him.

To Burgess: Poms has ALOT of issues in his game and I doubt we will re-sign him but he will catch the ball more than Tautai and do a good run here and there. He has to score with that run tho I spose cos he can't pass! I guess it is like a gun shot wound to the foot or the leg no neither is good but I think Poms is the shot to the foot, so slightly less severe.

 

[BurgoShark]

Your 'defensive reads' point is a fair one, but I still think his defensive lapses have been exaggerated. This, coming from a club that had Simmo in the centres for a season or two! My point with the figures was that Wright is far from hopeless in defence.

I think you might be confused by thinking of him playing on the left all the time. He played right centre mostly last year (replacing Simo). Mitch Brown/Pom/Reece played left. Check the footage of us losing to Souths in the final game for instance where he misses that tackle on Geddes for Souths to win at the death (right centre off the bench- see youtube), the game against the warriors (youtube), the game against the raiders (youtube). Wright&Fergo has indicated that his natural position is in fact left centre, so I would expect him to be more comfortable playing on that side of the field, and he would probably defend better there too.

I want to see him get a crack at left centre this weekend. Shaun Kenny-Dowell ain't the toughest bloke to come up against either in attack or defense.

Yeah - not hopeless, but he has his moments. Maybe I just missed his right side blunders and he's bad on both sides. Hoepfully he can get another chance and he's worked on his reads.

He's definitely an upgrade on Poms, Tautai or Simmo.

To Burgess: Poms has ALOT of issues in his game and I doubt we will re-sign him but he will catch the ball more than Tautai and do a good run here and there. He has to score with that run tho I spose cos he can't pass! I guess it is like a gun shot wound to the foot or the leg no neither is good but I think Poms is the shot to the foot, so slightly less severe.

I thought we were stuck with him until the end of 2011. Is he off contract this year?

I'd rather put a young guy or a back rower in that spot than either of these blokes.

FYI We've named an unchanged team this week:

http://www.sharks.com.au/default.aspx?s=article-display&id=26321

 

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Sharks Round 13 Team Lists

The Hisense Sharks have announced their Round 13 NRL, NYC and NSW Cup teams to play this weekend. View the team lists here.

http://www.sharks.com.au/?s=article-display&id=26321

Sharks Round 13 Team Lists
1/06/2010 3:53:20 PM

Sharks Round 13 teams for this weekend:

NRL:
Sharks v Roosters
Saturday June 5
Sydney Football Stadium 7.30pm

1 Nathan Gardner
2 Blake Ferguson
3 Dean Collis
4 Taulima Tautai
5 Isaac Gordon
6 Trent Barrett (c)
7 Tim Smith
8 Kade Snowden
9 John Morris
10 Luke Douglas
11 Grant Millington
12 Anthony Tupou
13 Paul Gallen
INTERCHANGE
14 Adam Cuthbertson
15 Broderick Wright
16 Paul Aiton
17 Siosaia Vave

 

[Ramzyv1]

Yeah - not hopeless, but he has his moments. Maybe I just missed his right side blunders and he's bad on both sides. Hoepfully he can get another chance and he's worked on his reads.

He's definitely an upgrade on Poms, Tautai or Simmo.



I thought we were stuck with him until the end of 2011. Is he off contract this year?

I'd rather put a young guy or a back rower in that spot than either of these blokes.

FYI We've named an unchanged team this week:

http://www.sharks.com.au/default.aspx?s=article-display&id=26321

As far as I am aware he is off-contract this year. He re-signed in 2008 with Bird but while Bird signed a three year deal taking him to the end of 2011, Poms was a 2 year one until the end of this year. I am pretty sure but not certain.

The problem is its slim pickings at the moment. I would try Bukuya over both of them but he hasn't played much football.

Edit: Unchanged line-up? Very frustrating!! What does Tautai have to do to get dropped, grubber it on the first tackle instead of the 3rd?!!

 

[teflon77]

Same ****. Probably same result.

 

[Ramzyv1]

To be fair it was a good team performance with a couple of individual performance blunders so hopefully Ricky just fires a rocket up Cuthbo, Tim Smith and Tautai. Barrett will be on again this week, hope the rest of the team follows his lead.

 

[ABshark]

As far as I am aware he is off-contract this year. He re-signed in 2008 with Bird but while Bird signed a three year deal taking him to the end of 2011, Poms was a 2 year one until the end of this year. I am pretty sure but not certain.

The problem is its slim pickings at the moment. I would try Bukuya over both of them but he hasn't played much football.

Edit: Unchanged line-up? Very frustrating!! What does Tautai have to do to get dropped, grubber it on the first tackle instead of the 3rd?!!

He did that two weeks ago against Parra when all he had to do was pass it to Gordon and we score.

Pom's is off contract until the end of next year unfortunately. Check his thread. Its devastating. I hope we can off load him to some unsuspecting ESL club.

Roosters lineup:

Sydney Roosters: Todd Carney, Anthony Minichiello, Phil Graham, Shaun Kenny-Dowall, Sam Perrett, Braith Anasta (c), Mitchell Pearce, Jason Ryles, Jake Friend, Jared Waerea-Hargreaves, Mitchell Aubusson, Nate Myles, Frank Paul Nuuausala. Interchange from: Daniel Conn, Mose Masoe, Nick Kouparitsas, Joseph Leilua, James Aubusson.

 

[MattyShArk]

on the plus side...they wont outpace us and i dont think they can outmuscle us either

im fairly sure im slighty more than confident of win

 

[bort]

Agreed. A Parra supporting mate of mine said to me when we signed him that he would better on the wing for us.

I think that's why Fergo has struggled lately.

He's a better centre than a winger and Tautai is the reverse,

please explain to me how fergie is a better centre?
I have only seen him play poorly at centre

 

[Henchmann]

What about the suggestion of John Morris at centre, he can tackle and pass, but not sure if he can bust through defenders out wide?

Just on topic I'd prefer Pomeroy than Tautai, that guy is way too risky in all facets of his game.

 

[Jaz]

I really don't MEAN to pick on him but I can't help it - he is by far our weakest link and everyone knows it. That's how you all know I'm talking about Tautai before I even use his name. I approve of this Morris to left center switch, or even a bringing Stapo to center switch, or even bring fergo to center and putting stapo on the wing... I don't really care as long as Tautai isn't there. Atleast Pom could make a break or two, Tautai's got nothing except for 1 or 2 hard hits a game.

 

[Deleted member 3365]

ive seen tautai play with confidence and he played pretty impressive i remember he played against newtown and i always loved it when he would get the footy and run...i just reckon his low on confidence. and btw he was playing in the centers

i believe once he finds confidence
he will be gun.
IMO

 

[Mr Wright]

Burgess, you say Wrights bad defensive reads that led to game winning tries where when he was on the left, which from memory is unture. I remember when we lost to the Bunnies in the last game last year Wright was playing right centre and they scored the try right next to Wright who was on the right side.

I think I said right wayy too many times in that paragraph.

 

[kiwishark]

As much as I hate it, I prefer Poms over Tautai

 

[Mr Wright]

Roosters have a fairly strong side, but won't show up this week. They never show up 2 weeks in a row.

 

[Capital_Shark]

Last nights result could be good for us, the Chooks have not put wins back-to-back since rounds 1 and 2 (WWLWLWLWLLW). They'll have a short turn around too from Monday night and bit of travel under their belts.

 

[BurgoShark]

Burgess, you say Wrights bad defensive reads that led to game winning tries where when he was on the left, which from memory is unture. I remember when we lost to the Bunnies in the last game last year Wright was playing right centre and they scored the try right next to Wright who was on the right side.

I think I said right wayy too many times in that paragraph.

yeah - I watched that video. Brown, Wright and Pomeroy were all standing together on that side so it's hard to tell where anyone was playing, but ... you are correct - he also made some bad reads on the RHS of the park - not just when playing on the left (e.g. the previous week vs Manly).

 

[Mr Wright]

I think playing him at lock and 5/8 this year during the NSW Cup would have surely helped his defense. Would atleast be better than last year.