Official Ricky Stuart

[ABshark]

I dunno... I've stated my position on Ricky enough times. I'm leaning more to the side that maybe he isn't the bloke for us any more than I have in the past, but then again- all teams have tough times. There will be an end to this eventually, in some form or other.

And I want an answer from all the "staurt haters" out there- those that want him out and have wanted it for ages. Say he does resign, or we do pay him out and get someone new in- whether that be Flanagan, Maguire, Kearney, Sheens, Folkes or Brown- whoever.

Say we do that, and nothing changes. What then?

 

[Ibanez]

I dunno... I've stated my position on Ricky enough times. I'm leaning more to the side that maybe he isn't the bloke for us any more than I have in the past, but then again- all teams have tough times. There will be an end to this eventually, in some form or other.

And I want an answer from all the "staurt haters" out there- those that want him out and have wanted it for ages. Say he does resign, or we do pay him out and get someone new in- whether that be Flanagan, Maguire, Kearney, Sheens, Folkes or Brown- whoever.

Say we do that, and nothing changes. What then?

Then they'll turn into the next coach hater, and claim they never actually wanted Sticky to go in the first place.

 

[peachey]

Here are all you ricky stuart haters you all jump on and bag him after each loss, your just waiting for the siren to finish to bag the **** out of him and his coaching.

content with sweet **** all are we?

if you consistantly performed poorly at your job, would you get the sack?

 

[El Coconuto]

I think we are going to win sweet f--- all with any coach. These players just lack some of the basic fundamentals that all professional footballers should have - holding onto the freaking ball, making a tackle and rolling off the attacker in the same decade, holding into the freaking ball, moving up off the line in defense and holding onto the freaking ball. These are things Ricky Stuart shouldn't have to spend time in training working on. How some of these guys fell through the cracks and into the first grade side in the first place is beyond me. It's like giving someone a few splintered planks of wood and some rusty nails and saying "We'll be back in a few days to see how the house is progressing."

Good luck with that task whoever you are.

 

[Ibanez]

I think we are going to win sweet f--- all with any coach. These players just lack some of the basic fundamentals that all professional footballers should have - holding onto the freaking ball, making a tackle and rolling off the attacker in the same decade, holding into the freaking ball, moving up off the line in defense and holding onto the freaking ball. These are things Ricky Stuart shouldn't have to spend time in training working on. How some of these guys fell through the cracks and into the first grade side in the first place is beyond me. It's like giving someone a few splintered planks of wood and some rusty nails and saying "We'll be back in a few days to see how the house is progressing."

Good luck with that task whoever you are.

I've been struggling to find the right words to say concerning this matter for a while, but I think you've got it Coco. The players, even some of our bigger names, just aren't performing like professionals. Dumb errors, penalty after penalty... it's a wonder. I'm not saying everything is clear cut for Ricky himself, but the boys are just as subject to questions as the coach is.

 

[PMQ_Tony]

What is with the term "Ricky hater"? It's starting to ***** me off.

World to Ricky.... "I dont hate you, I just want better for the club I love"

 

[Blix]

I dunno... I've stated my position on Ricky enough times. I'm leaning more to the side that maybe he isn't the bloke for us any more than I have in the past, but then again- all teams have tough times. There will be an end to this eventually, in some form or other.

And I want an answer from all the "staurt haters" out there- those that want him out and have wanted it for ages. Say he does resign, or we do pay him out and get someone new in- whether that be Flanagan, Maguire, Kearney, Sheens, Folkes or Brown- whoever.

Say we do that, and nothing changes. What then?

Ricky's record for us speaks for itself, if we get another failing coach sack him and go again (just dont sign them up for a long term contracts), what is the point of keeping a coach that cant get a win.

A good coach would get much more out of this team.

 

[El Coconuto]

Ricky's record for us speaks for itself, if we get another failing coach sack him and go again (just dont sign them up for a long term contracts), what is the point of keeping a coach that cant get a win.

A good coach would get much more out of this team.

The "What have we got to lose?" attitude doesn't apply to this club because somewhere in the last 18 months our club unapologetically shifted its focus from "winning" to "saving face." Look at some of the moves the club has made in the last year plus: dumping Bird, Seymour etc. These weren't "about winning" moves, they were "about preserving our image" moves. You know what happens when you prioritise your sponsorship deals and your relationship with the NRL higher ups? You end up with the half-motley crew that we have. For the club to make a series of moves based on the mantra of "commitment" and then axe a coach who has shown more loyalty to the club than many of his predecessors would be a backward step for everything the club is trying to present itself as - Committed.

 

[ABshark]

What is with the term "Ricky hater"? It's starting to ***** me off.

World to Ricky.... "I dont hate you, I just want better for the club I love"

Just the antonym to "Ricky lover".

 

[mnc]

The "What have we got to lose?" attitude doesn't apply to this club because somewhere in the last 18 months our club unapologetically shifted its focus from "winning" to "saving face." Look at some of the moves the club has made in the last year plus: dumping Bird, Seymour etc. These weren't "about winning" moves, they were "about preserving our image" moves. You know what happens when you prioritise your sponsorship deals and your relationship with the NRL higher ups? You end up with the half-motley crew that we have. For the club to make a series of moves based on the mantra of "commitment" and then axe a coach who has shown more loyalty to the club than many of his predecessors would be a backward step for everything the club is trying to present itself as - Committed.

Agreed Coco, had we kept those guys we may be now surviving on the NRL's coattails. Sponsors were quite rightly ready to leave in droves.
Our club has no money, but the members of our team, coaching staff & supporter base are all about keeping the Cronulla Sharks as an an NRL team. The money will come eventually & with it the success that can be realistically expected.
Until then I'll keep buying my Country membership, wearing my Jersey & the ridicule that comes with being a supporter of a team that's not doing so well!
But I shall wear all my Sharks colours with hope!!

 

[Gil]

We just need to string a couple of wins together to give everyone a lift.
From the boss down to the fans.
I hope this comes soon.

 

[shark3]

Dead set, how Ricky has not had a heart attack before , during or after games lately is beyond me! Anyone who has given him more than a passing glance in the last six months can see how much the guy is feeling every little bit torn apart by what we are going through at the moment.

Ricky, team, and everyone else - just hang in there...things WILL change. We just need to get the simple things right, start to BELIEVE again and STICK TOGETHER.

 

[Steve Kneen]

The "What have we got to lose?" attitude doesn't apply to this club because somewhere in the last 18 months our club unapologetically shifted its focus from "winning" to "saving face." Look at some of the moves the club has made in the last year plus: dumping Bird, Seymour etc. These weren't "about winning" moves, they were "about preserving our image" moves. You know what happens when you prioritise your sponsorship deals and your relationship with the NRL higher ups? You end up with the half-motley crew that we have. For the club to make a series of moves based on the mantra of "commitment" and then axe a coach who has shown more loyalty to the club than many of his predecessors would be a backward step for everything the club is trying to present itself as - Committed.

100%. I have been saying this all along. The people that made those decisions stuffed the club in a big way. To get out of this situation the club is going to need at least 2-3 years to build something and get some funds to recruit some decent players. If at the end of 2 years Ricky has done nothing I will not say he is a bad coach, it will depend on the cattle he has at his disposal & the players he has signed, because currently he has little to work with apart from Douglas Gallen Snowden Tupou & maybe Barrett & Smith..the rest are not in this class.

 

[Sharkyle]

Hes not a "bad" coach he just isn't what the sharks need.
Hes had his chance to prove to us (the fans) the club officials and the players.

He hasn't proven squat to the fans but he seems to have made an impression on the players as they have his back if the club decides to sack him. I say lets see where Ricky is going with this hand of cards. He has a royal flush, hes just bluffing... Just wait till he pull out the all in call (lets hope it pulls off)

 

[Ritchy]

We just need to string a couple of wins together to give everyone a lift.
From the boss down to the fans.
I hope this comes soon.

Don't hold your breath!

 

[Rapture_Shark]

i know times are tough with the club and we have been showing no confidence which has put us on the backfoot, but i think weve got a long way to go this season and if we start showing some consistency we can pull out some wins, i think that if we start to get better possession we get confident(not cocky) and win, thats what happened against parra, we had better possession and we got confident. sticky can be a good coach and what we need is to start getting the best out of everyone, we'd be unbeatable if everyone played like gallen, you all get my point, we need to start putting some more effort in...as hard as it may be, this is why they became footballers, theve got to try, thats how you become a first grader and just cos your in the top grade that doesnt mean youre set, this is where it gets hard, where you dont lie down, i know that its tough, last year i was in year 7 and i was 12 turining 13, i participated in an under 15's rep competition, i am a front rower so i do the hard yards, i got hammered in that game and it made me realise, "theres young front rowers in the NRL that are 21 and they are running at Petero whose around 33, youve got to be tough to do that"

Back to my point....i know footy is hard i wear the no. 8 every weekend, but you play 1st grade to show youre good at playing rugby league, you are not there for sympathy, GO HARD OR GO HOME!, its not just stickys fault, i know hes not coaching like he was in '02 and people are losing paitience but theres times where some players cant do there best.

everyones got mypoint and i think ill stop before i start repeating myself again.

 

[Steve Kneen]

Would the Broncos be calling for Bennett's sacking if he was coaching the Broncos? He would have little to work with there in comparison to the cattle he has at St George. I am tired of the call get rid of the coach. The facts are we lost Seymour Bird Fraser Anderson Kimmorley De Gois, you can't replace these players easily, nor buy the teamwork and understanding together. The loss of Kimmorley was a disgrace as the bloke was Cronulla through and through. I will blame Stuart for that, but apart from that as far as I'm concerned he doesn't have a first grade squad at his disposal, until such time as he has 18-20 1st graders that he can call on we won't do any well. You can't throw stones at coaches that have won competitions, and they are Anderson and Stuart. How many coaches can claim to having won a 1st grade comp? You need good players, and the sad reality is the Sharks don't have them at their disposal so stop blaming the coach.

How many more coaches heads will be called for if they fail at the Sharks? It is all too easy to blame the coach, and yes Stuart has made mistakes, getting rid of Kimmorley was WRONG and DISGRACEFUL, more so than getting rid of Bird and Seymour.

Calling for the coaches head everytime when we are going poorly doesn't solve anything. The reason the Storm Broncos have been so good in the past is the brilliant individuals they had, e.g. Lockyer, Langer, Inglis, Slater, but also the teamwork of having played together and the understanding built up, and not many changes to the core unit. Now look at the Sharks and see how many players have been there a long time. Gallen is about it.............

 

[fitz]

I've just read through this thread and I am appalled at some of the disrespect and over-inflated opinion some of you express.

Deadset, some of you are carrying on like you're 300 game veterans who have coached a team to a NRL Premiership or won a World Cup.

I admit... The coaching staff have their problems, the Club has their problems, the Players have their problems... some more than others!

I'm not trying to say for an instance that everyone is not entitled to their opinion, but you've actually got to express those opinions with a bit of respect to the staff and the players.

It's patently obvious to me that the coaching staff and the players are putting in the hard work... and that is something that I've been impressed about when I've gone down to watch the boys train. For some reason it's just not gelling on game day. They look fantastic in training. Perhaps they're just training too hard?

If anything, my only advise here would be that we might need to ease up and start to enjoy or footy a bit more.

There's simple things that we need to address I admit... things like us fighting in the tackle in attack rather than submitting and getting a quick roll-on... in particular, when we're coming out of our own 20. However, wholesale slamming of the team or the coach does very little to effect change.

Anyway, all I'm calling for is a bit more constructive criticism and solutions finding rather than just hysterical breast thumping and recriminations.

 

[dier]

If anything, my only advise here would be that we might need to ease up and start to enjoy or footy a bit more.

It is hard to enjoy this. I am watching the team I have supported passionately for most of my life, go out each week and be an embarrassment. I would do anything to watch this club succeed. A little bit of me died today watching that, I won't have much of me left by season's end at this rate.

 

[fitz]

It is hard to enjoy this. I am watching the team I have supported passionately for most of my life, go out each week and be an embarrassment. I would do anything to watch this club succeed. A little bit of me died today watching that, I won't have much of me left by season's end at this rate.

Sorry mate... when I said that, I was referring to our players starting to ease up and enjoy their footy... I have a hunch that if they start doing that, we might just start to enjoy the footy as well too.