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Sorry mate... when I said that, I was referring to our players starting to ease up and enjoy their footy... I have a hunch that if they start doing that, we might just start to enjoy the footy as well too.

My bad. The second half today was a lot better. We need to look at what was different there.
 

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It's patently obvious to me that the coaching staff and the players are putting in the hard work... and that is something that I've been impressed about when I've gone down to watch the boys train. For some reason it's just not gelling on game day. They look fantastic in training. Perhaps they're just training too hard?

If anything, my only advise here would be that we might need to ease up and start to enjoy or footy a bit more...


Anyway, all I'm calling for is a bit more constructive criticism and solutions finding rather than just hysterical breast thumping and recriminations.

The Sharks need a head coach. I'm not talking about physical coaching, I'm talking about mental coaching. It is painfully obvious that the problems lie between the ears, and not on the field, or with the coach, the previous board, or the peroxided chick at the Leaguesy.

The problems lie at the core of the Club's mentality.

A negative mind vibe has been infecting the Club for a vast time.

It's time to get someone in who has the capacity to locate the source of the mind worm, as well as the capacity to extract it, and the capacity to heal the damage. Then we can move forward.

From my understanding, computer virus protection programs use this method with high success rates.

Sooner or later the thirst always wins... The problem with Our Club is that we are hungry rather than thirsty ;).

As for the cost of securing the services of a head coach lol... There is always a way!
 

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I've just read through this thread and I am appalled at some of the disrespect and over-inflated opinion some of you express.

Deadset, some of you are carrying on like you're 300 game veterans who have coached a team to a NRL Premiership or won a World Cup.

I admit... The coaching staff have their problems, the Club has their problems, the Players have their problems... some more than others!

I'm not trying to say for an instance that everyone is not entitled to their opinion, but you've actually got to express those opinions with a bit of respect to the staff and the players.

It's patently obvious to me that the coaching staff and the players are putting in the hard work... and that is something that I've been impressed about when I've gone down to watch the boys train. For some reason it's just not gelling on game day. They look fantastic in training. Perhaps they're just training too hard?

If anything, my only advise here would be that we might need to ease up and start to enjoy or footy a bit more.

There's simple things that we need to address I admit... things like us fighting in the tackle in attack rather than submitting and getting a quick roll-on... in particular, when we're coming out of our own 20. However, wholesale slamming of the team or the coach does very little to effect change.

Anyway, all I'm calling for is a bit more constructive criticism and solutions finding rather than just hysterical breast thumping and recriminations.

Well said Fitz. The call for respect is a good one. If Sticky was standing in front of some of these people I bet they would not say the same thing to his face. Like in his article a few weeks ago about people getting on line and slamming Cayless. Come on people this club has been killing great coaches in like Gibson, Lang & Anderson for years. If some of you think that Sticky is coaching his players to play like that, you are mad.

The players need to look at themselves and see what they are doing. They need to take ownership of their individual performances and make it better. They miss the tackles, drop the ball, bomb the tries. Sticky is doing his best to make these blokes better players. Lets judge it at the end of 2011, when his current contract is finished, not now. By then he will have a team of blokes who have all played 50 games plus. He is taking a team of young kids and trying to turn them into a team of winners. That takes time, effort & patients.

Come on people lets support our team and get on with the job of showing up to Shark Park and cheering on the boys.
 
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Well said Fitz. The call for respect is a good one. If Sticky was standing in front of some of these people I bet they would not say the same thing to his face. Like in his article a few weeks ago about people getting on line and slamming Cayless. Come on people this club has been killing great coaches in like Gibson, Lang & Anderson for years. If some of you think that Sticky is coaching his players to play like that, you are mad.

The players need to look at themselves and see what they are doing. They need to take ownership of their individual performances and make it better. They miss the tackles, drop the ball, bomb the tries. Sticky is doing his best to make these blokes better players. Lets judge it at the end of 2011, when his current contract is finished, not now. By then he will have a team of blokes who have all played 50 games plus. He is taking a team of young kids and trying to turn them into a team of winners. That takes time, effort & patients.

Come on people lets support our team and get on with the job of showing up to Shark Park and cheering on the boys.

I think we all support our team, but on the basis of our win/loss ratio we have a right to express our disapproval within these forums.
 

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i must admit when i spoke my opinion, i was acting like ive being playing 1st grade for 15 years and 20 tests for australia, but ive only been playing league since under 8's and my highest achivements is player of the year.

i said all that stuff because its frustrating(as it is for everyone here) watching the sharks lose. we've got a great team with plenty of young potential and once they know their way around 1st grade well be better...... weve got time,

lets get behind the boys and and show we are a better club than everyone writing us off thinks
 

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i must admit when i spoke my opinion, i was acting like ive being playing 1st grade for 15 years and 20 tests for australia, but ive only been playing league since under 8's and my highest achivements is player of the year.

i said all that stuff because its frustrating(as it is for everyone here) watching the sharks lose. we've got a great team with plenty of young potential and once they know their way around 1st grade well be better...... weve got time,

lets get behind the boys and and show we are a better club than everyone writing us off thinks

I think a lot of us are guilty of that during and after the game.
I know my emotions run high watching/listening to the game and that is probably reflected in some comments.
But at the end of the day the Sharks have my full support now and in the future. I'll support anyone who wears the Black White and Blue.

Anyway I'm off to golf (wearing my Sharks Shirt).

:cheers
 

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Starting Cordoba over Douglas still has me scratching my head. I just don't understand it.
 

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regardless theres just no structure in our team when we play.

Look at it this way, when ricky took over roosters they were already a top team, then after loosing some players and the sqaud couldnt just win things on there own the team went to ****.

Then he took the sharks who had arguably one of the most promising squads and we went very close, even then though you could see we wernt reaching the right potential under Ricky, then once again we lost some players and we ve gone down again.

Dont get me wrong, great bloke, kept the team together and stong like a family through bad times. Just not the right coach.

as said before, its a psychology thing too, the players need a fresh new culture and a kick up the ass.
 

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as said before, its a psychology thing too, the players need a fresh new culture and a kick up the ass.

If I'm not mistaken that is the very reason that Ricky was brought in to replace Stuart Raper in the first place.
 

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Starting Cordoba over Douglas still has me scratching my head. I just don't understand it.

I think that may have been a reaction to the situation that happened against Manly where we subbed off Douglas and Snowden at the same time.

Perhaps Ricky was trying to stagger our forwards rotation so that we had at least one of our top notch props on at all times.

This really highlights our lack of depth in the props department and that is something that I've had ringing as warning bells for me for a while now.

Our two starting props are a country mile ahead of our second string. Vave is coming on nicely. We're sure missing Johnny Mannah coming in as an impact prop. Maybe Inoke Tapa’atoutai might need to step up.
 

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I think that may have been a reaction to the situation that happened against Manly where we subbed off Douglas and Snowden at the same time.

Perhaps Ricky was trying to stagger our forwards rotation so that we had at least one of our top notch props on at all times.

This really highlights our lack of depth in the props department and that is something that I've had ringing as warning bells for me for a while now.

Our two starting props are a country mile ahead of our second string. Vave is coming on nicely. We're sure missing Johnny Mannah coming in as an impact prop. Maybe Inoke Tapa’atoutai might need to step up.

Yeah, thats the only explination that I can come up with. Va Ve should be getting more minutes I feel. Bringing him on 50 minutes into the game isn't the best idea.

I'd like to see us mould Douglas and Snowden into 80 minute props.
 

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Yeah, thats the only explination that I can come up with. Va Ve should be getting more minutes I feel. Bringing him on 50 minutes into the game isn't the best idea.

I'd like to see us mould Douglas and Snowden into 80 minute props.



No such animal, at least week after week. The other props- Vave and Brod Wright- need to step up, and we need to find another on the market for next year.

All this talk just seems impatient to me. We got a baby squad of talented players and journeymen because we can't afford many talented players that are in or near their prime. We were never going to have a Bulldogs-like revival. The roosters are doing that cos they always had the players, they just weren't trying.

We are rebuilding. Like fitz posted last year- you want to build something, you can choose from doing it quickly, well or cheaply- but you can only choose 2 of those 3. We're doing it well, and on the cheap. So its not gonna come quick.

I think a lot of our desperation comes from people's view that the club is always about to go under and that a year or two at the foot of the ladder will see us kicked out of the comp. I don't know whether that's the case or not, but I doubt it. Be patient, support and get your friends and family to support and we'll not only have a club, but it will be a successful one at that.
 

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we have had 3 apprentice's at work over the last 4 years,
2 were great and one was ****ed it didnt matter how many times u told him he didnt learn and did the same things wrong over and over again.

now does that make me a bad teacher ? should i be sacked for his failure ?

or should he be sacked because he is useless ?

i feel for you ricky because i know how it feels to put time and effort into people and get nothing in return.

ricky isnt the whole problem, they players need to have a good hard look at themselves 2
 

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it was amazing to see we had nothing to lose in the second half yestaday and the boys just threw the ball around what do you know we scored points
i not saying to much bout stick or blaming him but the boys shoud go out and throw the ball round and i will be entertained no harm can happen now we can not get any worse
 

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we have had 3 apprentice's at work over the last 4 years,
2 were great and one was ****ed it didnt matter how many times u told him he didnt learn and did the same things wrong over and over again.

now does that make me a bad teacher ? should i be sacked for his failure ?

or should he be sacked because he is useless ?

i feel for you ricky because i know how it feels to put time and effort into people and get nothing in return.

ricky isnt the whole problem, they players need to have a good hard look at themselves 2

If the person that hired the ****ed apprentice got rid of good tradesman in the process....then he needs to be held accountable.
 

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If the person that hired the ****ed apprentice got rid of good tradesman in the process....then he needs to be held accountable.


i see ur point.

i only would have kept kearney bird and seymour, i think if ricky had his way he would have kept seymour and bird.
 

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i see ur point.

i only would have kept kearney bird and seymour, i think if ricky had his way he would have kept seymour and bird.

of those three we only really let one go willingly the rest our hand was somewhat forced due to their bad behaviour.

if the good apprentices repeatedly screwed up(endangered other people at work or something) are they better or worse than the crap one?
 

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of those three we only really let one go willingly the rest our hand was somewhat forced due to their bad behaviour.

if the good apprentices repeatedly screwed up(endangered other people at work or something) are they better or worse than the crap one?

there both bad for business, but one gets the job done and one doesnt
 

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Interesting analogy guys...

If your wayward... or incompetent apprentice was requiring you to spend more time in counselling and development of them rather than getting the job done and producing results, it will not be very long at all before your corporate reputation suffers and your customers, suppliers, investors and employees (both current and future) are looking elsewhere.
 
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