Official Matt Moylan

[Blix]

Nicho offloaded to Moyza plenty of times on the last tackle when he was at a loss of what to do.

Plenty of times…..for all one of Moylan kicks?

If that’s the case who did Moylan give the ball onto that was more qualified them him to take control of last play?

 

[Thresher]

Plenty of times…..for all one of Moylan kicks?

If that’s the case who did Moylan give the ball onto that was more qualified them him to take control of last play?

Dunno

 

[Blix]

Dunno

Hahahaha fair enough!!!

 

[Sparkles]

Thought he had a much better game this week. That last pass was a thing of beauty, and his overall game have me thinking he won't be next month's whipping boy.

I genuinely think I would have been more upset at Nicho if we'd lost.

 

[Proud Shark]

Say what you want about him but the man is clutch. Should have won the game for us last week if it wasn't for a last minute capitulation. Put Wilton over tonight to seal it.

Trindall has different strengths sure, especially with the boot. But Moylan still has it over him fir now I think.

 

[Milkshark]

Does anybody really know who the coach believes the best halves combination is until Trindals suspension is over?

 

[Sparkles]

Ideally the team will be good enough that you'll only need Moylan to use his undoubted footy brain to make the difference in the moments that count.

 

[Matty C of the Shire]

Does anybody really know who the coach believes the best halves combination is until Trindals suspension is over?

I would be looking at a Hynes-Trindall, with 14 moylan (maybe)

Our attack looks lost at times with Hynes-Moylan

 

[Western Sharkie]

Did my post say “replace Moylan with Trindall”?
Ive conceded that Fitz isn’t likely to make that change (for now), but I did guest that maybe Brailey can take a few more kicks (out of dummy half) to help take a little bit if pressure off of Nicho and make us a bit more unpredictable.

Just because other teams don’t use their dummy half as often doesn’t mean we shouldn’t.
What about Grants kicking, or Cook or Mahoney’s.
Why can’t we use that and be a bit less predictable?
Like I said, it can also help Nichos overall game if he isn’t the 5th tackle kicking option every 5th tackle.
Something to consider.

Dummy half? Aye?

ahh, yep.
Not sure what you are reading into with my posts but I’d already conceded that Fitz is likely to stick with Moylan over Trindall for now based on his presso comments.

My posts have been around our dummy half taking some pressure off of Nicho in regards to our kicking game in the absence of Wade in the side. So he isn’t the sole 5th tackle kicking option and we are a bit less predictable.
The opposition knows where the balls going at the moment in regards to kick pressure.
Less pressure on Nicho (or not always being the kicker) in that area should also hopefully benefit the rest of his game.

 

[Milkshark]

I would be looking at a Hynes-Trindall, with 14 moylan (maybe)

Our attack looks lost at times with Hynes-Moylan

Yeah me too mate.

Coach’s decision so we will see who he picks next week.

If he does pick Moylan again I’d like to see him at 7. Or at least be the first receiver and let Hynes create for the backs.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Does anybody really know who the coach believes the best halves combination is until Trindals suspension is over?

Trindall ain't coming back into the starting side in the short term mate unless there's an injury.

 

[Sparkles]

I would be looking at a Hynes-Trindall, with 14 moylan (maybe)

Our attack looks lost at times with Hynes-Moylan

To be fair, a lot of that has had to do solely with Hynes. He's not a 7 yet by any stretch. But he is a very good footy player

 

[Milkshark]

Trindall ain't coming back into the starting side in the short term mate unless there's an injury.

Perhaps but why do you think he won’t get picked? Because we won?

Genuine question

 

[Wilson]

ahh, yep.
Not sure what you are reading into with my posts but I’d already conceded that Fitz is likely to stick with Moylan over Trindall for now based on his presso comments.

My posts have been around our dummy half taking some pressure off of Nicho in regards to our kicking game in the absence of Wade in the side. So he isn’t the sole 5th tackle kicking option and we are a bit less predictable.
The opposition knows where the balls going at the moment in regards to kick pressure.
Less pressure on Nicho (or not always being the kicker) in that area should also hopefully benefit the rest of his game.

Glad we’re having this discussion in the Matt Moylan thread

 

[HaroldBishop]

Perhaps but why do you think he won’t get picked? Because we won?

Genuine question

The current pairing will be given time mate, can't see it being changed in the next 5 games unless there's an injury.

 

[Milkshark]

I don’t like using the hooker to kick on the last tackle. He doesn’t have the visibility of the halves.

 

[Milkshark]

The current pairing will be given time mate, can't see it being changed in the next 5 games unless there's an injury.

Yeah maybe mate.

My personal way of thinking is to fix the last tackle kicking options. I don’t think either Hynes or Moylan are natural kickers. Maybe they could learn and get better.

The team lacks last tackle options and a goal kicker. Hynes might have just had one of those nights though.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Yeah maybe mate.

My personal way of thinking is to fix the last tackle kicking options. I don’t think either Hynes or Moylan are natural kickers. Maybe they could learn and get better.

The team lacks last tackle options and a goal kicker. Hynes might have just had one of those nights though.

Yeah last tackle attacking kicks are very average so far this season, not up to standard yet.

 

[Proud Shark]

Yeah last tackle attacking kicks are very average so far this season, not up to standard yet.

Yep. We've barely even attempted to force a drop out let alone achieved one.

 

[Gards]

Would be nice to for him to kick at some point

have you forgotten some of his kicking efforts last week in round 1? I agree it would be nice but he is very rough around the edges off the ol boot especially when he is trying something close range / attacking.

But yea I wish he would have done more long range torpedo bomb kicks tonight, he is good at those but guess coach figures he got enough on his plate and gotta sort out some other stuff first but we can't have Nicho as lone clearing kicker long term IMO

Imagine how Nicho is feeling having to carry this pansy

they were carrying each other tonight

Does something good every 20mins

Sold!

Mozza wasn't really a mong tonight (cept that miss kick air swing early game), he had some nice touches /runs and I thought his defense looked better (although stats suggest otherwise). He was better than Hynes most of the first half. tonight was a classic 2021 performance from Moylan

I don't think Matt is a player we can expect a complete game performance out of, if it happens (rare) great. But like Hynes his good ended up outweighing the bad, maybe we just have to take that

The jersey is Moylan’s to lose! Him and Hynes combo already is looking slick. They can set a play up out of nothing.

and destroy a play out of nothing

Didn’t think he was that great…a couple of quality passes. However, missed loads of tackles, terrible kick (yes only one kick!) not to mention another terrible 5th play option (which I do not even know what he was trying to do)

This was a good game in comparison to most of Moylans games…..however still think trindle adds more, from defence to the strongest general play kicker in and strongest goal kicker

Trindalls defense is a bit sketchy , he can make a good strong tackle but he can misread and miss them / get caught off guard, wrong position as much as any half

This idiotic Trindall offers more brigade are going to grind some gears this week after we deadset dominated one of the premiership heavyweights with ball in hand

lol premiership heavy weights. parra are a good solid team but making the top 4 and getting bundled out in the finals is prob the best they are gunna do again. just don't have that extra level / quality or killer instinct needed to take it all the way.

mind you we will have done very well making top 4 but very encouraging signs tonight

Same as last week. Good moments and bad moments, ran the ball, got involved with the game on the line.

meant to quote a different post of yours put agree on short kicking, would be very handy to get some more repeat sets, especially with our new found steel and commitment in defense we could really punish teams and keep the hurt going. even some short range attacking kicks grubbers ect behind the line

Hynes seems to be making an effort in this regard though and doing reasonably well but we need options across the park

Grind what gears ? He had a terrible 79 minutes lol. Did he even kick more then once ?

You have low standards to be happy with that performance. We lose by a mile without Hynes

Hynes was far from perfect but I also think we don't win without him, he lifted his game in that second half. BUT as much as I bag Mozza as much as any poster (probs more) and as much as I am open to Trindall being the 7, Mozza made a contribution tonight with the ball and there is more to a game than just kicking

Not likely to be dropped based on Fitz’s pressa.

We can probably cover his lack of long kicks when Wade plays, as Wade can take some of the pressure off of Nicho, but the problem now days is that Wade hasn’t been playing.
Maybe we can get more long kicks from Brailey if we stick with this halves combo (and I don’t see it changing at the moment based on the pressa).

Wade doesn't do much long kicking, typically only if we are desperate and we get disjointed in our set and it ends up with him as a last resort. I don't think he kicks it as far as our other halve options either. Wade typically just used to do those short side grubbers down the left side.

Agree on Brailey , will be good to get him kicking again at some point but we have already seen so much improvement in his game in 2 weeks maybe Fitz wants him to nail those parts of his game first and focus on short/long kicker late on

Fortunately I do remember past the last game I have seen Moylan play…so “calling him out” is based on the last few years.

Moylans running game is definitely less dangerous then Nichos, Moylan defense is average……however apart from that he has zero input at the end of every set. Which obviously Nicho who is new to the half’s in the NRL is being solely left to control as Moylan with all of his experience and prior rep football has no kicking game…

I agree that Moylan could step up and take some more responsibility in helping out Hynes but to say he has zero input end of sets is wrong. his pass to Tieg was the game winner tonight and I think he has layed on another 1 or 2 final pass try assists in the first 2 weeks

I think both players are still working alot out which is a bit annoying after having a big pre-season but actual FG games is ofcourse a whole another level. they might have looked good at training but game pressure ect, fatigue they might be putting a few things in the bag and trying to keep it relative simple and stick to the plays they are comfortable with.

I am confident they will evolve from here, individually and as a combo