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I think Moylan is there due to his experience only.
Trindall and Nicho IMHO is a better balanced halves combination, allowing Nicho to be the ”running half” and Tricky to take on the “controlling” aspects of the role.
Metcalf may have gotten a run next week had he not signed on with the Warriors next season but It will be the same 2 next week (Nicho/Moylan) as after all, we did nearly win, but I’d like to see Tricky in the 7 when he is available If not more so to take the pressure off Nicho’s kicking game.

you might be right but how much is that experience worth when he plays like a mong every other week. he still needs to perform and despite his experience he looks like a 20 gamer sometimes - his execution is so all over the place

I will give him credit for slotting that field goal and it was on a slight angle to the left as well and his pass to Kennedy was a nice classic moylan pass but there wasn't much else to talk about and I worry his presence might actually conflict and confuse with Hynes somewhat

Repeat set.
I get it, we like the kid and think mostly of the positives... And maybe build them up a bit bigger than they are. But it would have been chaos with Nicho and Trindall together on Friday.

compared to our whopping zero repeat sets in a game we desperately needed them

it was chaos anyway

Trindall and Nicho have had 2 games where they have shown they can work pretty well together. Did Moylan & Hynes work well on Friday??

Mozza didn't even play a trial game cause the bloke had some soreness, Fitz didn't wanna risk him and wanted to save him. Save him for what? what we saw on Friday? And this apparently after he had a scary good pre-season

If any player on our team needed a proper hit out before Rnd1 it was Matt Moylan. now he will be finding his rythm and radar during competition games

Not convinced trindal wins us that game…

maybe not but I am trying to think beyond the first 2 rnds and the overall balance of the team

Both better then Moylan

I would actually take Chad over Moylan that’s how sht Moylan is

At least Chad / Hynes made some logical sense


Chad got a repeat set tonight, at least I saw 1, maybe got more
 

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I will try to be patient with him in the knowledge he may well come good but im not giving him the benefit of the doubt as he was mostly poor against the Raiders and I don't think he has an excuse.

It shows what a myth and middling player he is that all the planets have to align for him to work properly for the team and we have to suck up all his bad games until the good comes. The bloke has stolen a massive salary since post 2018 and is lucky he is being paid more than $1 for 2022 by us

The blokes been in Rugby League a while now and has rep / finals experience. He should be a better and more consistent player by now but it's like every year is a rookie year and he is still finding his feet. Yes injuries and combination changes don't help but plenty of players have had to deal with that over a career.

Hynes and Trindall deserve the benefit of the doubt . If and when it clicks with Mozza and Hynes we may well be fire but how many games and part of our season is down the gurgler by then ?

I will try to back Moylan to bounce back and be more solid against Parra but I don't think it will be wise to stick it out with him too long if he doesn't perform.



This can be a good ploy. IF you back it up with good defense that doesn't give away penalties.... tbf sometimes we did but some repeat sets would have been handy, especially in that first half when we didn't have much ball or opporutines down the raiders end. We needed every crack at their try line possible but we kinda just grinded it out until we were able to put on some plays later after Raiders tired and the momentum swung



he got repeat sets in All Stars game as well IIRC

not that Hynes has been terrible @ 7 and he will get better but Im starting to go back to thinking of Hynes 6 Trindall 7 again. but with instructions for Hynes to do the play making and Trindall to keep it simple and not over playing his hand and trying to hand to come up with miracle plays to seemingly justify his position in the team every week.

Take some pressure off the kid, just let him kick long, pass from first receiver and make his tackles. If an opportunity presents itself run the ball ect but mostly just keep things tight and consistent. Surely he could handle that while Nicho shines and Moylan watches from the bench or the stands
My benefit of the doubt is based on Fitzy’s comments on him which were based in his observations of Moylan during training. Moylan has 1 or 2 more games of credit with me.

However, we have a brain fart cultural issue to solve and it is a bigger problem than Moylan (although him being bad contributes to it).
 

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My benefit of the doubt is based on Fitzy’s comments on him which were based in his observations of Moylan during training. Moylan has 1 or 2 more games of credit with me.

However, we have a brain fart cultural issue to solve and it is a bigger problem than Moylan (although him being bad contributes to it).

Yeah. I don't think we've seen a big enough sample to write him off just yet. I didn't really think it was a great idea to re-sign Moylan based on his injury record. But since he's still here seeing what he can do for a couple more weeks shouldn't hurt too much.
 

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I actually though Moylan was good. Not great, but good. I don't get the whinging at all.

It was a very "Matt Moylan game". Did some good things, did some bad things, but way more good than bad. Yeah he kicked out on the full and his edge let in a soft one (not solely on him) but he had a hand in all Sharks 3 tries plus the 80th minute no-try, kicked what should have been the game winning field goal, actually ran the ball, and he was heavily involved in the final set trying to make things happen with the game on the line. This is Matt Moylan. We know him well.
 
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I think we have enough of a sample size over the years,
Plays like a Mong, finds form and is good for us, gets injured - basically useful for 1/3 of a season to us rinse and repeat

What will be so different this year for him? new coach, bigger pre-season?

Regardless I agree on giving him a few more weeks, Trindall not available anyways and Metcalf is even more raw than Trindall.
Doesn't mean I need to be overly patient or find excuses for Mozza
 

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I actually though Moylan was good. Not great, but good. I don't get the whinging at all.

It was a very "Matt Moylan game". Did some good things, did some bad things, but way more good than bad. Yeah he kicked out on the full and his edge let in a soft one (not solely on him) but but he had a hand in all Sharks 3 tries plus the 80th minute no-try, kicked what should have been the game winning field goal. he actually ran the ball, and he was heavily involved in the final set trying to make things happen with the game on the line. This is Matt Moylan. We know him well.

you're probably right, not playing like a complete spaz is a decent effort for him

BUT I don't want Matt Moylan games from him, I want him to play like an actual footballer who has been in the game for years. Is it so much of a stretch or unfair expectation fror him to do the good talented things he is capable of while cutting down on the mongoloid plays ??

I like the bloke, would love to see him do well, fmd he should be better though
 

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I actually though Moylan was good. Not great, but good. I don't get the whinging at all.

It was a very "Matt Moylan game". Did some good things, did some bad things, but way more good than bad. Yeah he kicked out on the full and his edge let in a soft one (not solely on him) but but he had a hand in all Sharks 3 tries plus the 80th minute no-try, kicked what should have been the game winning field goal. he actually ran the ball, and he was heavily involved in the final set trying to make things happen with the game on the line. This is Matt Moylan. We know him well.
I reckon if Moylan had Hynes game he’d still be copping it
 

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I reckon if Moylan had Hynes game he’d still be copping it

He isn't Hynes though, Hynes is far less experienced and at a new club in a new position in FG PLUS he had a better game than Moylan and hasnt stolen a salary from the club for 2.5 years

so there is a difference
 

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I actually though Moylan was good. Not great, but good. I don't get the whinging at all.

It was a very "Matt Moylan game". Did some good things, did some bad things, but way more good than bad. Yeah he kicked out on the full and his edge let in a soft one (not solely on him) but but he had a hand in all Sharks 3 tries plus the 80th minute no-try, kicked what should have been the game winning field goal. he actually ran the ball, and he was heavily involved in the final set trying to make things happen with the game on the line. This is Matt Moylan. We know him well.
I don't want to confuse effort for effectiveness. He definitely tried, which as appreciated. He stepped in and up when Nicho failed to take control, just not in a way that was... good. I'd be surprised if he or Fitz were happy with his game.

Having said that... I think he's capable of more, and most of the team had plenty of nerves and cobwebs to knock off. He just wasn't good round 1.
 
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