Lyall Gorman

[snowman]

Can someone message me Lyall's email address?

An email isnt going to change our situation

 

[skeksis]

I know, it's for me personally

 

[SharkShocked]

Honestly I understand that people are afraid of change. But it must occur.

It is not simply the losses, it is the manner in which we play our football.

Do you honestly feel excited or impressed by the manner in which we play footy, would you as an outsider choose to come down to Remondis to be entertained by the sharks football side?

NO.

The style of play we put out is prehistoric and has to be removed.

Yes there is an inherent risk in paying out a coach and hiring a new one only to have a similar fate.

However we already know what we've got in Flanno and it isn't enough.

Find someone else who can actually coach attacking structured footy.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Honestly I understand that people are afraid of change. But it must occur.

It is not simply the losses, it is the manner in which we play our football.

Do you honestly feel excited or impressed by the manner in which we play footy, would you as an outsider choose to come down to Remondis to be entertained by the sharks football side?

NO.

The style of play we put out is prehistoric and has to be removed.

Yes there is an inherent risk in paying out a coach and hiring a new one only to have a similar fate.

However we already know what we've got in Flanno and it isn't enough.

Find someone else who can actually coach attacking structured footy.

I agree and I can't stand the bloke. BUT, if we lose this weekend as expected the season is done. There is no point in rushing into sacking him now. May as well give him the chance to change things before pulling the trigger. For the record I give him close to zero chance of turning things around but there's no point pulling the trigger 5 rounds into a three year contract.

 

[Tiger Shark]

To be honest, the style of football from an entertainment perspective doesn't really concern me, I just want the W.

The style of football that is effective, relevant to the way the game is played and suits our current roster does concern me.

It's blatantly clear that our roster needs an overhaul, our halves are terrible, our forwards are getting old. We have some exciting young talent we need to build around.

The best coach to play a relevant style to our team isn't Flanno imo, he relied to heavily on Carney, and now that he's gone the team he's created so far is firing on blanks.

Perfect time to rebuild, we have heaps of cap space, no more ASADA, a good CEO from all reports and money from the development on it's way.

 

[SharkShocked]

I agree and I can't stand the bloke. BUT, if we lose this weekend as expected the season is done. There is no point in rushing into sacking him now. May as well give him the chance to change things before pulling the trigger. For the record I give him close to zero chance of turning things around but there's no point pulling the trigger 5 rounds into a three year contract.

Yeah, i'm not advocating round 5.

But there certainly needs to be a clear direction for 2016.

 

[slide rule]

It's not outdated football. You wouldn't win dick with this type of football in any era.

If you want to be a "grind" team you need to do the little things right 99.99% of the time. You work to a clear game plan and structure. You don't do anything flashy, but the methodical adherence to the game plan gets you across the line when the other team loses their bundle.

We do not do that. The only reason why we call ourselves a grinding team is because we have no structure and we grind our own gears. This never works, ever.

 

[evertonshark]

Yeah, i'm not advocating round 5.

But there certainly needs to be a clear direction for 2016.

I'm guessing most peoples anger comes from him getting re-signed during his suspension. For 3 years.


Last year was our best chance for a cleanout and to go in a whole new direction but those in charge decided to treat the whole of 2014 as basically a holding period just to give this bloke more years.

 

[SharkShocked]

It's not outdated football. You wouldn't win dick with this type of football in any era.

If you want to be a "grind" team you need to do the little things right 99.99% of the time. You work to a clear game plan and structure. You don't do anything flashy, but the methodical adherence to the game plan gets you across the line when the other team loses their bundle.

We do not do that. The only reason why we call ourselves a grinding team is because we have no structure and we grind our own gears. This never works, ever.

We honestly don't even know how to give space to our backs. We rarely ever isolate a back 1 on 1 with the opposition and let their skills have a chance to shine.

It's absolutely disgusting to watch.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Yeah, i'm not advocating round 5.

But there certainly needs to be a clear direction for 2016.

Yep, agree with that.

I'm guessing most peoples anger comes from him getting re-signed during his suspension. For 3 years.


Last year was our best chance for a cleanout and to go in a whole new direction but those in charge decided to treat the whole of 2014 as basically a holding period just to give this bloke more years.

This does my head in mate. Complete lunacy.

 

[IronShark]

It's fairly hilarious that people are still blaming the style of play for our postion.

It's pretty obvious it is the players inability to execute the play that is the problem.

One person lost us the game on Saturday: Wade Graham. The funniest part of that is, not only has no one poited the finger at him, probably because he lost the game by trying to play "exciting" football.

Up by four with three minutes to go, he throws a twenty meter cutout pass to the fastest bloke in the opposition - brilliant. Also don't forget, that was the second tackle on the halfway line. A standard four hit ups puts us inside the Titans ten with a chance of a repeat set but I guess it's Flanno's fault...

The other point that needs to be made is about the penalty goal to go four up with less than 7 minutes left. Of course you take the two. Every NRL coach worth their salt takes the two there. Not only does it mean the opposition need a converted try, it takes at least two minutes off the clock, after which you get the ball back. Take at least a minute for a set of six, kick the ball to the other end and the opposition have less than four minutes to go the length of the field and score.

If you don't back your defence to win from there, you deserve to lose.

 

[evertonshark]

It's fairly hilarious that people are still blaming the style of play for our postion.

It's pretty obvious it is the players inability to execute the play that is the problem.

One person lost us the game on Saturday: Wade Graham. The funniest part of that is, not only has no one poited the finger at him, probably because he lost the game by trying to play "exciting" football.

Up by four with three minutes to go, he throws a twenty meter cutout pass to the fastest bloke in the opposition - brilliant. Also don't forget, that was the second tackle on the halfway line. A standard four hit ups puts us inside the Titans ten with a chance of a repeat set but I guess it's Flanno's fault...

The other point that needs to be made is about the penalty goal to go four up with less than 7 minutes left. Of course you take the two. Every NRL coach worth their salt takes the two there. Not only does it mean the opposition need a converted try, it takes at least two minutes off the clock, after which you get the ball back. Take at least a minute for a set of six, kick the ball to the other end and the opposition have less than four minutes to go the length of the field and score.

If you don't back your defence to win from there, you deserve to lose.

I disagree with pretty much every aspect of this post, 1 play over 80 minutes does not lose a game, taking the 2 to go up by 4 points was the wrong decision also because at that stage we seemed to be all over them and should have continued to attack.

 

[HaroldBishop]

The other point that needs to be made is about the penalty goal to go four up with less than 7 minutes left. Of course you take the two. Every NRL coach worth their salt takes the two there. Not only does it mean the opposition need a converted try, it takes at least two minutes off the clock, after which you get the ball back. Take at least a minute for a set of six, kick the ball to the other end and the opposition have less than four minutes to go the length of the field and score.

If you don't back your defence to win from there, you deserve to lose.

I think that's BS. Most teams/coaches would go for the try in that situation. If you don't get it you go for a repeat set and keep the play down that end of the field. A 4 point lead with 5-7 minutes left is nothing these days.

 

[djhabib]

It's fairly hilarious that people are still blaming the style of play for our postion.

It's pretty obvious it is the players inability to execute the play that is the problem.

One person lost us the game on Saturday: Wade Graham. The funniest part of that is, not only has no one poited the finger at him, probably because he lost the game by trying to play "exciting" football.

Up by four with three minutes to go, he throws a twenty meter cutout pass to the fastest bloke in the opposition - brilliant. Also don't forget, that was the second tackle on the halfway line. A standard four hit ups puts us inside the Titans ten with a chance of a repeat set but I guess it's Flanno's fault...

The other point that needs to be made is about the penalty goal to go four up with less than 7 minutes left. Of course you take the two. Every NRL coach worth their salt takes the two there. Not only does it mean the opposition need a converted try, it takes at least two minutes off the clock, after which you get the ball back. Take at least a minute for a set of six, kick the ball to the other end and the opposition have less than four minutes to go the length of the field and score.

If you don't back your defence to win from there, you deserve to lose.

Yeah lets not mention michael gordon 3 minutes into the second half doing sweet **** all to protect a grubber that should have been taken dead.

 

[hamsy44]

It's fairly hilarious that people are still blaming the style of play for our postion.

It's pretty obvious it is the players inability to execute the play that is the problem.

One person lost us the game on Saturday: Wade Graham. The funniest part of that is, not only has no one poited the finger at him, probably because he lost the game by trying to play "exciting" football.

Up by four with three minutes to go, he throws a twenty meter cutout pass to the fastest bloke in the opposition - brilliant. Also don't forget, that was the second tackle on the halfway line. A standard four hit ups puts us inside the Titans ten with a chance of a repeat set but I guess it's Flanno's fault...

The other point that needs to be made is about the penalty goal to go four up with less than 7 minutes left. Of course you take the two. Every NRL coach worth their salt takes the two there. Not only does it mean the opposition need a converted try, it takes at least two minutes off the clock, after which you get the ball back. Take at least a minute for a set of six, kick the ball to the other end and the opposition have less than four minutes to go the length of the field and score.

If you don't back your defence to win from there, you deserve to lose.

Short answer yes it is Flanno's fault. You know that a real fan is able to still love their club even when they know there are things wrong right?

 

[hamsy44]

It's not outdated football. You wouldn't win dick with this type of football in any era.

If you want to be a "grind" team you need to do the little things right 99.99% of the time. You work to a clear game plan and structure. You don't do anything flashy, but the methodical adherence to the game plan gets you across the line when the other team loses their bundle.

We do not do that. The only reason why we call ourselves a grinding team is because we have no structure and we grind our own gears. This never works, ever.

Melbourne storm were the perfect grinders a few years back. They would make 0 mistakes and play it up the middle. You would drop the ball they would score. Rinse repeat.

We have never been grinders we have been scrappers. A scrapper will keep throwing punches even though you are whooping his arse but ever now and then he lands one on your chin and you go down.

 

[sharkyboy]

It's fairly hilarious that people are still blaming the style of play for our postion.

It's pretty obvious it is the players inability to execute the play that is the problem.

One person lost us the game on Saturday: Wade Graham. The funniest part of that is, not only has no one poited the finger at him, probably because he lost the game by trying to play "exciting" football.

Up by four with three minutes to go, he throws a twenty meter cutout pass to the fastest bloke in the opposition - brilliant. Also don't forget, that was the second tackle on the halfway line. A standard four hit ups puts us inside the Titans ten with a chance of a repeat set but I guess it's Flanno's fault...

The other point that needs to be made is about the penalty goal to go four up with less than 7 minutes left. Of course you take the two. Every NRL coach worth their salt takes the two there. Not only does it mean the opposition need a converted try, it takes at least two minutes off the clock, after which you get the ball back. Take at least a minute for a set of six, kick the ball to the other end and the opposition have less than four minutes to go the length of the field and score.

If you don't back your defence to win from there, you deserve to lose.

And what about going for the two points the other 3 times?

What about playing a second rower at 5/8th when you have a half dying to play firsts in reserve grade?

What about the lack of creativity in attack?

What about the "its not my fault blame someone else" mentality that has been apart of who flanno is since day dot?

The players fault? FMD the only reason we've ever played decent footy over the past few years is when we completely ignore flannos structure and play off the cuff, free flowing footy.

 

[djhabib]

And what about going for the two points the other 3 times?

What about playing a second rower at 5/8th when you have a half dying to play firsts in reserve grade?

What about the lack of creativity in attack?

What about the "its not my fault blame someone else" mentality that has been apart of who flanno is since day dot?

The players fault? FMD the only reason we've ever played decent footy over the past few years is when we completely ignore flannos structure and play off the cuff, fee flowing footy.

Which is what we saw in the 9s and for the last 20 against melbourne

 

[sharkyboy]

Which is what we saw in the 9s and for the last 20 against melbourne

And small glimpses in the Titans game

 

[SharkShocked]

It's fairly hilarious that people are still blaming the style of play for our postion.

It's pretty obvious it is the players inability to execute the play that is the problem.

One person lost us the game on Saturday: Wade Graham. The funniest part of that is, not only has no one poited the finger at him, probably because he lost the game by trying to play "exciting" football.

Up by four with three minutes to go, he throws a twenty meter cutout pass to the fastest bloke in the opposition - brilliant. Also don't forget, that was the second tackle on the halfway line. A standard four hit ups puts us inside the Titans ten with a chance of a repeat set but I guess it's Flanno's fault...

The other point that needs to be made is about the penalty goal to go four up with less than 7 minutes left. Of course you take the two. Every NRL coach worth their salt takes the two there. Not only does it mean the opposition need a converted try, it takes at least two minutes off the clock, after which you get the ball back. Take at least a minute for a set of six, kick the ball to the other end and the opposition have less than four minutes to go the length of the field and score.

If you don't back your defence to win from there, you deserve to lose.

What a load of hogwash.

Pretty evident that most people thought Grahmas pass sucked ass.

Taking the 2 was the most asinine decisions Flanno has ever made and then didn't even have the kahoonas to take responsibility for the call in the Post match press conference. Blaming a rogue trainer for running out with a message. What a ****ing pathetic excuse.

Not to mention taking the 2 the first time we had the ball in their 20. Good message to send to the opposition.. we don't believe can score or spend a few sets mounting pressure guys, just come back to halfway.

Our blokes are coached to protect a lead from minute 1. A lead that they can't even establish.

You know when you deserve to lose? When you play to lose from the get go and that's all Flanno has them doing at the moment.