Official Jack Williams

[Gumby]

Hazleton to start?

 

[BurgoShark]

The premise that Royce Hunt is an automatic selection is just wrong. Cam, Dale are the only 2. Everyone else is competing for a job and may see their role change in the new rotation.

I liked what I saw of Williams yesterday. Sharing 80 between he and Dale might be a nice way to keep the ball movement and high work rate while also bringing a point of difference with his strong running and quick ptb’s. Can’t get that sort of play from Hunt, Kaufusi or Tommy.

 

[CrazyMatt]

I’ve still got Hunt starting for now. It would be incredibly unfair to write him off based on a ****ing thrown together exhibition game.

 

[bort]

Game only half had my attention but I didn’t think Hunt went that bad?

Had one error from a good tackle (still should of held it but plenty of others had an error or more)
Didn’t get heaps of runs, had a strong one from kick off and other were a mixed bag.
16 tackles no misses

The premise that Royce Hunt is an automatic selection is just wrong. Cam, Dale are the only 2. Everyone else is competing for a job and may see their role change in the new rotation.

I don’t know that that’s a widely regarded premise is it? People can say they have him starting/bench now without considering him and automatic selection

 

[BurgoShark]

Game only half had my attention but I didn’t think Hunt went that bad?

Had one error from a good tackle (still should of held it but plenty of others had an error or more)
Didn’t get heaps of runs, had a strong one from kick off and other were a mixed bag.
16 tackles no misses


I don’t know that that’s a widely regarded premise is it? People can say they have him starting/bench now without considering him and automatic selection

Yeah - I don’t think the All Stars game matters at all.

I think plenty on here consider him automatic selection.

 

[Super Impose]

The premise that Royce Hunt is an automatic selection is just wrong. Cam, Dale are the only 2. Everyone else is competing for a job and may see their role change in the new rotation.

I liked what I saw of Williams yesterday. Sharing 80 between he and Dale might be a nice way to keep the ball movement and high work rate while also bringing a point of difference with his strong running and quick ptb’s. Can’t get that sort of play from Hunt, Kaufusi or Tommy.

How do we use Cam in this rotation ?

I’d have him starting @ 9 for 20 minutes but where to from there ?

 

[Sparkles]

After watching hunt tonight, we need a new prop

Uele will start over him

You're calling a guys career over a trial game... Mate, you pump the team up less than a members pack

 

[Sutty]

Nice signs for when Dale/McInnes go down but no way I see him fitting in our 17 to start the year. We are stacked at lock.

 

[BurgoShark]

How do we use Cam in this rotation ?

I’d have him starting @ 9 for 20 minutes but where to from there ?

That’s one way, but it’s not really an issue. Most of the time last year there was one genuine “prop” and two locks on the field.

 

[NoahsArk]

After watching hunt tonight, we need a new prop

Uele will start over him

If you’re basing that on a comparison between a trial with the reserve grade knights & the game yesterday, that’s a rough call. I thought the all stars match had way more intensity & contact was heavier.

 

[Capital_Shark]

Hunt was fine running on & off every few sets in a micky mouse game

 

[BurgoShark]

Hunt was fine running on & off every few sets in a micky mouse game

Yeah. All stars is irrelevant.

Still comes down to the role Fitz wants for this player. If you want a guy to guy with ball in hand for just 15-25 any middle could do it well enough, but Hunt is towards the front of the queue. For any other role I would take Williams or BHU over him.

While Hunt is the biggest metre-eater in the team, he does it in very short stints with lots of rest in between, and is the least busy player in defence. His defensive work rate is comparable to a back rower rather than a middle. Not poor by any means but well below every other regular middle forward.

It’s also often forgotten that Jack Williams has possibly the quickest ptb speed in the NRL. That’s a huge factor.

 

[Capital_Shark]

Yeah. All stars is irrelevant.

Still comes down to the role Fitz wants for this player. If you want a guy to guy with ball in hand for just 15-25 any middle could do it well enough, but Hunt is towards the front of the queue. For any other role I would take Williams or BHU over him.

While Hunt is the biggest metre-eater in the team, he does it in very short stints with lots of rest in between, and is the least busy player in defence. His defensive work rate is comparable to a back rower rather than a middle. Not poor by any means but well below every other regular middle forward.

I don't go that deep. My thoughts on preferred line up are as irrelevant as they are non-existent. I'll leave it Fitz to put it all where it needs to go mate. Cheer if we win, forget it if we don't.

 

[Western Sharkie]

Yeah. All stars is irrelevant.

Still comes down to the role Fitz wants for this player. If you want a guy to guy with ball in hand for just 15-25 any middle could do it well enough, but Hunt is towards the front of the queue. For any other role I would take Williams or BHU over him.

While Hunt is the biggest metre-eater in the team, he does it in very short stints with lots of rest in between, and is the least busy player in defence. His defensive work rate is comparable to a back rower rather than a middle. Not poor by any means but well below every other regular middle forward.

It’s also often forgotten that Jack Williams has possibly the quickest ptb speed in the NRL. That’s a huge factor.

Could also be cos he is a big M-****er and no one’s wants to go near him.

 

[Sevshark]

It’s also often forgotten that Jack Williams has possibly the quickest ptb speed in the NRL. That’s a huge factor.

We're actually very spoilt with PTB speed, personally think Mcinnes might be the fastest but Teig, Dale and now Oregon all have an argument too

 

[Sparkles]

Yeah. All stars is irrelevant.

Still comes down to the role Fitz wants for this player. If you want a guy to guy with ball in hand for just 15-25 any middle could do it well enough, but Hunt is towards the front of the queue. For any other role I would take Williams or BHU over him.

While Hunt is the biggest metre-eater in the team, he does it in very short stints with lots of rest in between, and is the least busy player in defence. His defensive work rate is comparable to a back rower rather than a middle. Not poor by any means but well below every other regular middle forward.

It’s also often forgotten that Jack Williams has possibly the quickest ptb speed in the NRL. That’s a huge factor.

Did Hazelton have a good PTB speed or did I just see a couple of decent ones?

 

[Sevshark]

Did Hazelton have a good PTB speed or did I just see a couple of decent ones?

The NRL has actually started tracking player averages for PTB so you can look it up in the match stats if you're interested.

His average speed in the trial was 3.82 seconds.

 

[Western Sharkie]

The NRL has actually started tracking player averages for PTB so you can look it up in the match stats if you're interested.

His average speed in the trial was 3.82 seconds.

What is the bench mark which is considered good?

 

[BurgoShark]

What is the bench mark which is considered good?

There isn’t really a benchmark. So many different situations and variables.

Ptb speed compared across different situations (1 on 1, 2 on 1, 3 on 1) is what you want. The teams have that. The public doesn’t.

The easy way to know who the fasted ptb guys are on each team is keeping an eye on which players take 4th tackle hit-ups and the hit-up prior to a shift. The coaches use them in those situations because they have access to stats that we don’t.

Knowing how many times you are able to force 1 on 1 situations is also one way to measure the performance of your hooker and halves. That’s a big part of their job. Again - teams have this data.

 

[Blix]

Yeah that was good and when him and Hazelton were making tackles together for a bit they were so dominant

Def agree.

His attack is decent, he will never steam roll guys but is decent.

His defence is quality though. Hits and pins them to the ground Gal style. Ceases set momentum on most tackles.