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Cheers. Thought you might say that.
Again for the record. IMO Bring back DI to the Board.
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Cheers. Thought you might say that.
Again for the record. IMO Bring back DI to the Board.
I've been on a few Boards and more committees than I'd care to mention.
Whereas a quality Board thrives on open discussion and encourages healthy debate, the tipping point is when it gets to a mindlessly adversarial bitch-fight dysfunctionality at every meeting.
The other great failings I've experienced is when you have too many people from one area of expertise. The focus needs to be on BALANCE.
I've always seen it as a bit like a spoked wheel - if any spoke is absent or weak then the overall integrity and strength of the wheel is compromised.
That said, we've also got an overlay in this particular situation of a need for continuity and consistency across the non-football areas of our business.
It would be absolutely reckless in my opinion to NOT return directors who are heavily embedded and understanding of the Sharks property development process and proposed roll-out.
To that end, without seeing other's credentials, both Craig Douglas and Damian Irvine MUST be re-elected.
Whereas a quality Board thrives on open discussion and encourages healthy debate, the tipping point is when it gets to a mindlessly adversarial bitch-fight dysfunctionality at every meeting.
The other great failings I've experienced is when you have too many people from one area of expertise. The focus needs to be on BALANCE.
I've always seen it as a bit like a spoked wheel - if any spoke is absent or weak then the overall integrity and strength of the wheel is compromised.
That said, we've also got an overlay in this particular situation of a need for continuity and consistency across the non-football areas of our business.
It would be absolutely reckless in my opinion to NOT return directors who are heavily embedded and understanding of the Sharks property development process and proposed roll-out.
To that end, without seeing other's credentials, both Craig Douglas and Damian Irvine MUST be re-elected.
slide rule
Jaws
How many football club members do we actually have with voting rights? It really is quite expensive and difficult to justify, particularly since you cant vote for 2 years after getting them and you cant vote with a proxy.
Anyway, anyone who is serious about holding a position like this at the club should probably have them anyway.
SF
Mako Shark
From my experience trying to buy football club membership over previous years it's one of the world's great mysteries. Nobody knows anything about it, you never receive any confirmation, and impossible to know your status. Similar with the whole election process. I don't think it should be held against nominees.
To be fair, this is the published notification.
It is very straight-forward and specific.
Anyone who doesn't understand the meaning and context of this notice really wouldn't be an asset to the Board
What Rule 50 ACTUALLY means is that the Board must consist of AT LEAST 5 of the 9 Directors being Football Club members with voting rights.
Glenn Coleman, our future Chairman is a Member of both the Football Club and the Leagues Club. That means from the remaining 8 positions, 4 will have to be eligible Football Club Members. The way it works in the vote counts is that the bottom 4 contestants drop off until there is the a clear 5 Football Club / 4 Leagues Club split.
That will determine a constitutionally legal Board.
It is very straight-forward and specific.
Anyone who doesn't understand the meaning and context of this notice really wouldn't be an asset to the Board
What Rule 50 ACTUALLY means is that the Board must consist of AT LEAST 5 of the 9 Directors being Football Club members with voting rights.
Glenn Coleman, our future Chairman is a Member of both the Football Club and the Leagues Club. That means from the remaining 8 positions, 4 will have to be eligible Football Club Members. The way it works in the vote counts is that the bottom 4 contestants drop off until there is the a clear 5 Football Club / 4 Leagues Club split.
That will determine a constitutionally legal Board.
SF
Mako Shark
That notice is clear but it was buried away on a website nobody ever goes to, with no notice ever actually sent to members as far as I know. There is never any clear information about when the next election will be, or what the voting rules are. The reason it frustrates me is that it seems to almost deliberately narrow the potential candidates to a constant small pool.
Ok Gando let's just elect all good blokes who love the sharks and get pissed in the ET stand at home games...
That's what we need right now..
He should do the right thing like a few others; withdraw nomination and stay seated at the kiddies table
That's what we need right now..
He should do the right thing like a few others; withdraw nomination and stay seated at the kiddies table
Shark
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The constitution is complex, one of the reasons is that it is the result of the merging of the Leagues and Football Club boards.
A re-working of the Constitution is something Irvine's boards had identified as a necessary and important task, which may have resulted in splitting the board back into two separate but related entities, governed by their own boards. In that scenario you'd probably have some directors who sit on both boards (maybe 4 or 5, if you had 9-member boards, 3 or 4 if you dropped it to 7), and each board could have it's own chair. The licensed club has a 'President', the Footy club a 'Chairman'.
I still think this Constitutional reform process is worth looking at.
We could even form a panel to provide member consultation. How about the Constitutonal Reform Advisory Panel? Imagine the vibe...
Jokes aside it needs to happen, but unfortunately you'll never escape the legalese and fine print.
A re-working of the Constitution is something Irvine's boards had identified as a necessary and important task, which may have resulted in splitting the board back into two separate but related entities, governed by their own boards. In that scenario you'd probably have some directors who sit on both boards (maybe 4 or 5, if you had 9-member boards, 3 or 4 if you dropped it to 7), and each board could have it's own chair. The licensed club has a 'President', the Footy club a 'Chairman'.
I still think this Constitutional reform process is worth looking at.
We could even form a panel to provide member consultation. How about the Constitutonal Reform Advisory Panel? Imagine the vibe...
Jokes aside it needs to happen, but unfortunately you'll never escape the legalese and fine print.
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This is something that ****s me too. Time wasters. Happens at local council too. A bloke is really popular and puts on a great BBQ at the junior footy or the hockey club and next thing he's having a say on billion dollar budgets. It's rubbish.
When did i say he is a "good bloke" or "get's pissed" just because he has a corporate box in the ET stand.
You don't know him, you don't know what he does, so how can you judge him and tell him to "stay seated at the kiddies table"
D.I is a good bloke who was head of the CSSC I'm sure he has been "pissed" once or twice before and he got elected
Who do you want to see elected?
Just as a heads-up...
There is a re-worked draft Club constitution sitting on Craig Douglas's desk right now along with all the proposed documentation for the re-worked business model.
This is one of the proactive things that the Douglas, Irvine, Ward & Tiernan were working on prior to the whole "Drugs In Sport" dramas.
It was something that was being looked at and worked on so that the organisation was better able to respond to the changing nature of the Club's business as we move into the roll out of the Development.
Also, the suggestion that Bruno Cullen was parachuted into the Club by the NRL to fix the joint is also rubbish.
The Board had been working with Bruno prior to get his advice and services about the organisational review and restructuring.
There is a re-worked draft Club constitution sitting on Craig Douglas's desk right now along with all the proposed documentation for the re-worked business model.
This is one of the proactive things that the Douglas, Irvine, Ward & Tiernan were working on prior to the whole "Drugs In Sport" dramas.
It was something that was being looked at and worked on so that the organisation was better able to respond to the changing nature of the Club's business as we move into the roll out of the Development.
Also, the suggestion that Bruno Cullen was parachuted into the Club by the NRL to fix the joint is also rubbish.
The Board had been working with Bruno prior to get his advice and services about the organisational review and restructuring.
I assume so.
Just on another thing.
Glenn Gorick. Good bloke and well respected police officer and has strong community and sports ties in the Sutherland Shire community.
Question to our thin blue line here.
Can you see a conflict of interest in being both a police officer and being on the Board of a licensed club that features gaming as a principal revenue stream?
Fitzy2513
Oceanic Whitetip Shark
Yes. I have been out for 8 years but I doubt things have changed. Approval needs to be given for secondary employment and I suspect that the department would class this under secondary employment. Have never of approval given for anything to do with licence premises. They view it as an area where you could be compromised.
Just on the nominations, Peter Cobb, ex Police Prosecutor and talented Lawyer. Champion of a bloke.
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Is he related to Bob Gorick?
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A lot of voters won't know him. I don't. So to turn the boldes statement back towards you how can people vote for him if they don't know him or what he does?
Just askin'
Frenzy
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Is this still how it stands? I only bought footy club voting rights again this year. I have maintained a leagues club membership always though.
Will I even be able to vote?
djhabib
Jaws
i got mine the Friday before the season started yet Lauren never received any letter
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Is it known that Mezzatesta was put up because Keogh doesn't meet the criteria either?