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The trouble is egg, if we encourage people and forgive their spelling and grammar mistakes we run the risk in the long run of losing our beautiful English language and see it evolve into a jumbled mess of letters that make no sense whatsoever. The fight must continue for us purists who strive each day to preserve the language we hold so dear to ourselves. War must be waged against text language, trendy abbreviations and the annoying and ever puzzling use of a space before a full stop or comma. :)

In all seriousness I am trying to teach my 10 year old son how to spell and use proper grammar but I’m failing miserably. I honestly am worried about how our language will look in 50 years time. It will be absolutely mutilated to pieces.

Fair Call , I do understand your sentiment , it is true
For me a bug bear is when people write Goal ,, FFS in Australia it's Jail.
I am the same with Aussie slang - love the ol ' phases , for example Hoo Roo for saying goodbye
That worries me more than perfection of the gramma or language .
For me , maintaining Australiana is MORE important , than the queens English .
Isn't , " Hey cobber , lob roun' my joint for a barbi this arvo " more in the spirit of the ANZAC ?
 
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The trouble is egg, if we encourage people and forgive their spelling and grammar mistakes we run the risk in the long run of losing our beautiful English language and see it evolve into a jumbled mess of letters that make no sense whatsoever. The fight must continue for us purists who strive each day to preserve the language we hold so dear to ourselves. War must be waged against text language, trendy abbreviations and the annoying and ever puzzling use of a space before a full stop or comma. :)

In all seriousness I am trying to teach my 10 year old son how to spell and use proper grammar but I’m failing miserably. I honestly am worried about how our language will look in 50 years time. It will be absolutely mutilated to pieces.

Tru dat
 

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I'm one of that generation and don't really give 2 faaaarks about spelling and punctuation , not that anal .
If you can work out the gist of the statement , surely that shouldn't be an ordeal ?
Get a REAL a real problem , I reckon.
But , will try to NOT to upset any grammar perfectionists :)

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Fair Call , I do understand your sentiment , it is true
For me a bug bear is when people write Goal ,, FFS in Australia it's Jail.
I am the same with Aussie slang - love the ol ' phases , for example Hoo Roo for saying goodbye
That worries me more than perfection of the gramma or language .
For me , maintaining Australiana is MORE important , than the queens English .
Isn't , " Hey cobber , lob roun' my joint for a barbi this arvo " more in the spirit of the ANZAC ?

People generally say gaol not goal.

And I think I've made you look like an idiot on this before. Jail is American. Gaol is Australian.

Old Melbourne Gaol, Dubbo Gaol, Adelaide Gaol, Boggo Road Gaol, Perth Gaol - even ****ing Fannie Bay Gaol, the list goes on.

You're welcome to continue to find it irritating, but you need to find another reason.
 
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Ha ha! But egg’s been doing it for a while now. But in all fairness he’s not the only one. I work with a guy in his late 60s and he does exactly the same. And it infuriates me.

Get him to read. Then encourage him to write about **** he likes. With a pen. I can type mindlessly for ages but writing by hand seems to engage the brain a bit more.

Yep, sound advice Cap. Every night since he’s been 2, we’ve either read to him or have him read. His writing is atrocious. He’s not keen on writing because some dumb arsed teacher bawled him out in front of the class and told him he’d never have a pen licence. What a stupid thing to say. There’s some talent there somewhere though as he makes all these iMovies, making up his own characters and coming up with the dialogue.

Fair Call , I do understand your sentiment , it is true
For me a bug bear is when people write Goal ,, FFS in Australia it's Jail.
I am the same with Aussie slang - love the ol ' phases , for example Hoo Roo for saying goodbye
That worries me more than perfection of the gramma or language .
For me , maintaining Australiana is MORE important , than the queens English .
Isn't , " Hey cobber , lob roun' my joint for a barbi this arvo " more in the spirit of the ANZAC ?

Egg, I’m all for maintaining our Australiana but there’s a time and place for everything. In the right context our Australian language can be quite powerful and appropriate. I too have a bugbear of words spelled incorrectly, my biggest is the use of “lose” and “loose”. So many people, not just you egg, get this wrong and it infuriates me.

But to return to the original post that Pops put up, you should really spell people’s names properly especially when it’s in print in front of you. It’s really not that difficult. :)

English is a mess of a language.

Agree with you Slide but it will get worse very quickly if we continue to ignore the fundamentals.
 
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The trouble is egg, if we encourage people and forgive their spelling and grammar mistakes we run the risk in the long run of losing our beautiful English language and see it evolve into a jumbled mess of letters that make no sense whatsoever. The fight must continue for us purists who strive each day to preserve the language we hold so dear to ourselves. War must be waged against text language, trendy abbreviations and the annoying and ever puzzling use of a space before a full stop or comma. :)

In all seriousness I am trying to teach my 10 year old son how to spell and use proper grammar but I’m failing miserably. I honestly am worried about how our language will look in 50 years time. It will be absolutely mutilated to pieces.

Purists have been saying this for centuries. The way you write would look like a jumbled mess to linguists 200 years ago.

Language evolves to suit society. Whilst I agree some people take the piss, especially with spelling, abbreviations are more common than ever within spoken language and will likely become the norm.

Don't let yourself become too upset with it.
 

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Gaol is English. Jail is American.

We should have our own spelling.

Priso

He’s not keen on writing because some dumb arsed teacher bawled him out in front of the class and told him he’d never have a pen licence.

I never got a pen license but I use one all the time anyway. Suck **** teacher!

(This is between us, don’t you ****ers snitch on me, I’m not going back to priso!)
 

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Purists have been saying this for centuries. The way you write would look like a jumbled mess to linguists 200 years ago.

Language evolves to suit society. Whilst I agree some people take the piss, especially with spelling, abbreviations are more common than ever within spoken language and will likely become the norm.

Don't let yourself become too upset with it.

Yep. I have a few medieval books at home, takes me 10 minutes to read a page.
 

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Yep, sound advice Cap. Every night since he’s been 2, we’ve either read to him or have him read. His writing is atrocious. He’s not keen on writing because some dumb arsed teacher bawled him out in front of the class and told him he’d never have a pen licence. What a stupid thing to say. There’s some talent there somewhere though as he makes all these iMovies, making up his own characters and coming up with the dialogue.

I remember distinctly when I was in yr5 every Friday we'd have an old relief teacher. She used to tear me apart over my chicken scratch handwriting. it was the day after Stuart Diver got trapped she come to me like "I'm sorry I didn't understand you had difficulty with fine motor tasks."

Tell them teachers to **** right off.

That yr5 teacher became one of my only favourites.

Any teachers giving it to a kid is just wrong.
 
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I remember distinctly when I was in yr5 every Friday we'd have an old relief teacher. She used to tear me apart over my chicken scratch handwriting. it was the day after Stuart Diver got trapped she come to me like "I'm sorry I didn't understand you had difficulty with fine motor tasks."

Tell them teachers to **** right off.

That yr5 teacher became one of my only favourites.

Any teachers giving it to a kid is just wrong.

Yep, thankfully he has a better teacher this year who he seems to like and is more encouraging. But the two years he spent with two separate battle-axes is making it twice as hard to lift his confidence.
 

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I'm one of that generation and don't really give 2 faaaarks about spelling and punctuation , not that anal .
If you can work out the gist of the statement , surely that shouldn't be an ordeal ?
Get a REAL a real problem , I reckon.
But , will try to NOT to upset any grammar perfectionists :)

When?!
 

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I remember distinctly when I was in yr5 every Friday we'd have an old relief teacher. She used to tear me apart over my chicken scratch handwriting. it was the day after Stuart Diver got trapped she come to me like "I'm sorry I didn't understand you had difficulty with fine motor tasks."

Tell them teachers to **** right off.

That yr5 teacher became one of my only favourites.

Any teachers giving it to a kid is just wrong.

Tank or PS can probably shed more light on this, I'm sure I read recently that you can become a teacher with an ATAR of below 50.

There's an issue right there.
 
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