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CT’s 1 point attempt meant nothing in the overall context of the game at that point.

Had CT played the percentages and rolled the ball in for a repeat set, or ran it into the corner so the dragons had to restart from 5-10 out tackle 1 or bombed for a 6 tackle set instead of a 7 tackle restart at the 20, we would be talking about a Warriors win and a gutsy performance given his should injury early in the game. However he chose a low percentage “result” play (ie 1 point to go to a 9 point lead which is redundant) and then blew the relatively easy shot from 20-25m out just off centre.

That play changed the rest of the match (“sliding doors”) by giving away a 7 tackle restart from the 20 and giving the dragons all momentum.

The Dragons then capitalised and scored which changed the last 6 mins of the game in reg time. All from 1 momentum shifting play.



NQ’s problem now.
I have nothing against CT but think he just showed last night that his decision making it not up to scratch.
Or lack of game awareness if he thought they were only up by 6.

How in your head do you lock in that field goal attempt as the butterfly wing flap that lost them the game and not the thousands other things that contributed - say the 79th minute ruck infringement that lead immediately to Ramsay's try, for example? I suspect if the infringement was by Chad you'd call that out instead.
 

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I think the result was more on the Warriors, dead set, they were horrible, Dragons were fumbling their way through golden point, not many teams would have lost to the Dragons yesterday, they were very ordinary

I mean the final 10 of regulation time. A lot of offside play, forward passes by the Dragons, plus some very soft set restarts and a few high tackles let go that would have been sin bins back in magic round.

GP the reffing was laughable both ways. Offside-a-thon. Should have finished a draw but the Warriors had the fumbles.
 

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How in your head do you lock in that field goal attempt as the butterfly wing flap that lost them the game and not the thousands other things that contributed - say the 79th minute ruck infringement that lead immediately to Ramsay's try, for example? I suspect if the infringement was by Chad you'd call that out instead.

Warriors also has possession and a 4 point lead with 60 seconds to play. If the centre runs from dummy half instead of throwing a pass to a stationary player standing on the try line the game is theirs. Picking a (dumb) play ten minutes earlier by a different bloke as the “sliding doors” moments is just flat out looking for reasons to bag the guy.
 

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Don’t have to go looking for ways to bag Chad, he just presents them to you every week
 
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How in your head do you lock in that field goal attempt as the butterfly wing flap that lost them the game and not the thousands other things that contributed - say the 79th minute ruck infringement that lead immediately to Ramsay's try, for example? I suspect if the infringement was by Chad you'd call that out instead.

Low benefit, high consequence play.

He missed the shot which was only going to take them from an 8 point lead to a 9 point lead (ie still only likely 2 scoring plays) and therefore no difference to that lead with 6 mins out from full time.
High consequence as he gave away a 7 tackle set from their 20m restart but more importantly gave the Dragons moment.

He would have been better to try for a “3 score” lead (or at least a 2 converted try lead which keeps pressure on the kicker to convert both tries if scored), a repeat set (although unlikely from where he was) or give them the ball back 5-10m out with a 6 tackle set to defend instead of 7 from 20m line.
That is the high percentage play and what I think you would have seen from one of the top teams (Storm, Panthers, Rabbits, Eels, Roosters).

You can come back and say, but the 1 point means an end result of 19-18 Warriors win in reg time (as some have suggested) however as the game would have restarted from a kick off, ANYTHING could’ve happened from there as you reset from a different play.

At the end of the day the Dragons may still have won but the high percentage/ benefit play at 8 points up with 6 to go is to try and push the score out to a “3 scoring play lead” or keeping the play down your attacking end as long as possible.

Chad’s decision to play for the field goal IN THAT CIRCUMSTANCE, was the wrong option and poor game management. Otherwise he was a decent addition for the Warriors.
 
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Warriors also has possession and a 4 point lead with 60 seconds to play. If the centre runs from dummy half instead of throwing a pass to a stationary player standing on the try line the game is theirs. Picking a (dumb) play ten minutes earlier by a different bloke as the “sliding doors” moments is just flat out looking for reasons to bag the guy.

Not at all.
Warriors had momentum in the second half and it shifted after that play. If he doesn’t give away a 7 tackle set for a low reward play, then the entire last 10 minutes is irrelevant so the play you are referring to doesn’t necessarily happen either.
It could also be suggested that you are looking to deflect from that moment.
I’m not suggesting that the Warriors definitely win, but that play swung momentum and momentum is everything in the modern game.
 

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How in your head do you lock in that field goal attempt as the butterfly wing flap that lost them the game and not the thousands other things that contributed - say the 79th minute ruck infringement that lead immediately to Ramsay's try, for example? I suspect if the infringement was by Chad you'd call that out instead.

Momentum.

He gets a repeat set or a handover 3m out Dragons are in strife

Instead, captain retard tried an unnecessary hero play, kicked it dead and the Dragons rolled them
 

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Not at all.
Warriors had momentum in the second half and it shifted after that play. If he doesn’t give away a 7 tackle set for a low reward play, then the entire last 10 minutes is irrelevant so the play you are referring to doesn’t necessarily happen either.
It could also be suggested that you are looking to deflect from that moment.
I’m not suggesting that the Warriors definitely win, but that play swung momentum and momentum is everything in the modern game.

Of course Burgo is. Chad is the best 7 in his eyes.
 

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Momentum.

He gets a repeat set or a handover 3m out Dragons are in strife

Instead, captain retard tried an unnecessary hero play, kicked it dead and the Dragons rolled them

He wants to be a clutch type of player so bad
 

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Not at all.
Warriors had momentum in the second half and it shifted after that play. If he doesn’t give away a 7 tackle set for a low reward play, then the entire last 10 minutes is irrelevant so the play you are referring to doesn’t necessarily happen either.
It could also be suggested that you are looking to deflect from that moment.
I’m not suggesting that the Warriors definitely win, but that play swung momentum and momentum is everything in the modern game.

Mmm, your double dipping there mate. You can't say the next 10 mins is irrelevant then say the warriors don't definitely win. And your can't ignore the errors from the Warriors in that last ten minute period, or the whole of extra time where momentum was reset.
 

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Momentum.

He gets a repeat set or a handover 3m out Dragons are in strife

Instead, captain retard tried an unnecessary hero play, kicked it dead and the Dragons rolled them

Your confidence that he would have successfully gained a repeat set if he tried is surprising, but it's far from a given. You can do what if scenarios all day. The point was that there was a whole other 80 minutes of regular time that contributed to the result. Then extra time where anyone could have won it. Was it a stupid play from Chad. Yep. Did the Warriors deserve to lose regardless, having given away a **** tonne of restarts, errors and scoring less tries? Yep.
 

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Your confidence that he would have successfully gained a repeat set if he tried is surprising, but it's far from a given. You can do what if scenarios all day. The point was that there was a whole other 80 minutes of regular time that contributed to the result. Then extra time where anyone could have won it. Was it a stupid play from Chad. Yep. Did the Warriors deserve to lose regardless, having given away a **** tonne of restarts, errors and scoring less tries? Yep.

Mate Chad deadset lost it for them, it's undeniable. Saints were going nowhere before that botched kick.

Halfback is meant to manage the game, instead he lost it.

Was terrible.
 

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Mate Chad deadset lost it for them, it's undeniable. Saints were going nowhere before that botched kick.

Halfback is meant to manage the game, instead he lost it.

Was terrible.

I did say it was a **** play. I just don't believe one play loses a game, Chad or not. There were heaps of opportunities for the team to not be ****. Then they were. Before and after that weird decision.

If it helps everyone... Chad thinking they were only 6 ahead... Unforgivable at that stage of the game. It gave them a chance to get back in it, which they took.

And if people really want something to **** can Chad about, they should be looking at his general kicking game. His inability to kick it more than 30 metres did more to give the Dragons a chance than that field goal attempt.
 
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Mate Chad deadset lost it for them, it's undeniable. Saints were going nowhere before that botched kick.

Halfback is meant to manage the game, instead he lost it.

Was terrible.
Drags had just scored, no doubt our old mate gave them a real good sniff and a shot of confidence but he wasn’t probably expecting his whole team to implode along with him, just wish it wasn’t the dragons that got the win. Good news s their confidence should be rock bottom for next week.
 
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