(Archived) THE RUMOUR MILL - Player Movement

[snowman]

Adam Reynolds ball playing ability is extremely over rated, in saying that he has a very solid and realiable kicking game which is what we are lacking. Say we do sign Reynolds we would need to structure his game and force him to become more of an organiser, if we're looking to have Brown as our long term 5/8 we could then allow him to further develop his running game and have Reynolds more then less control the side. Throw in Holmes hopefully having some ball playing ability at the back then suddenly were not looking so bad. Although would not throw all of Carneys money at Reynolds, to much money for someone like Reynolds.

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Would happily spend Carneys money on Luke Keary if he was the one on the outer at souths.. Wishful thinking at its best though.

me and ramez watched djwadeo watched keary in a nsw cup semi last year, he stunk up the field

all the pressure was put on him to win the game and he sucked

he has been well hidden in a souths team where sutton and reynolds are there to take pressure off him

He's not a completely one dimensional player unlike Reynolds. There's more to him than a kicking game and since he hasn't quite nailed a regular fg spot, he'd probably be more motivated to play better. He'd offer more.

lol, blake austin will never have a nailed on first grade spot, adam reynolds is 10 times the player austin is dreaming of becoming

also, you want austin and brown together, both guys are ball runners, both guys have shown **** all in terms of long kicking game, that would be a hiding to no where

i would rather have reynolds run the ship and kick the ball, and have brown run the ball and be the creative spark we need, add in holmes and we would be on a winner

 

[Fozzym]

Blake is a horrible kicker though so we would be in the exact same position we are now constantly in our own end because the fullback/winger is getting the ball in their 20 on the full.

You have to create a balanced squad that works well as a team not just grab any player who is off contract.

What we need more then anything is a quality controlled kicking game and bloke who can lead the side from our own end and get the ball as close to their end as possible.

Hunt can do that and Renyolds can do that. It's personal preference as to who will do a better job over the long term.

The problem is, when we get down their end Reynolds won't be very useful.

I agree with not grabbing any player who is off contract. Which is why we might be better off waiting till next year to move on a half if we can't get Hunt.

Austin was only an example. DCE, Foran, Sezer, Keary are all within our price range so why get Reynolds now?

 

[hamsy44]

Do people forget that in 2008 with a team of nuffies we got to one game within the grand final off the back of Noddy being able to kick into space and tackle the kick returning within their 20.

Seriously why do you think Gus wanted Jamie Soward so badly - never ever under estimate the value of a good long controlled kicking game. Its not going to win you a comp on its on but you without one you will never get close.

 

[slide rule]

Do people forget that in 2008 with a team of nuffies we got to one game within the grand final off the back of Noddy being able to kick into space and tackle the kick returning within their 20.

Seriously why do you think Gus wanted Jamie Soward so badly - never ever under estimate the value of a good long controlled kicking game. Its not going to win you a comp on its on but you without one you will never get close.

Yep. 10 extra metres from a kick is 10 metres that the forwards don't have to be relied upon to make. It's incredibly valuable really.

 

[hamsy44]

The problem is, when we get down their end Reynolds won't be very useful.

I agree with not grabbing any player who is off contract. Which is why we might be better off waiting till next year to move on a half if we can't get Hunt.

Austin was only an example. DCE, Foran, Sezer, Keary are all within our price range so why get Reynolds now?

I agree he will not be very useful in terms of try assists - but he is 3rd in forcing drop outs which maintains pressure. Look we sometimes go off early on here re young players but Holmes and Brown will be very good players, add in Fifita's brilliance, Ennis' scheming not to mention a fit Gallen, Graham & lewis - inside the 20 I think we will have enough weapons to score points - not to mention if one of our outside backs fire.

 

[Fozzym]

me and ramez watched djwadeo watched keary in a nsw cup semi last year, he stunk up the field

all the pressure was put on him to win the game and he sucked

he has been well hidden in a souths team where sutton and reynolds are there to take pressure off him



lol, blake austin will never have a nailed on first grade spot, adam reynolds is 10 times the player austin is dreaming of becoming

also, you want austin and brown together, both guys are ball runners, both guys have shown **** all in terms of long kicking game, that would be a hiding to no where

i would rather have reynolds run the ship and kick the ball, and have brown run the ball and be the creative spark we need, add in holmes and we would be on a winner

You could also argue that Reynolds is well hidden with a great forward pack and Sutton to take the pressure off him.

I disagree on Austin, he has improved leaps and bounds this year and the Tigers look a better side with him on the field. I think his kicking has been alright without being brilliant. So much more potential than Reynolds.

 

[Fozzym]

Do people forget that in 2008 with a team of nuffies we got to one game within the grand final off the back of Noddy being able to kick into space and tackle the kick returning within their 20.

Seriously why do you think Gus wanted Jamie Soward so badly - never ever under estimate the value of a good long controlled kicking game. Its not going to win you a comp on its on but you without one you will never get close.

Soward also has a quick, effective running game and a mean cut out on him. His kicking game is his main asset for sure but there's more to him.

 

[Capital_Shark]

I'm gonna have to watch Austin a lot closer cause I don't see past decent utility.

 

[snowman]

reynolds is 3rd in kicking meters, 3rd in repeat sets, and has second most forced errors off kicks

also, he may only have 2 more try assists than robson, but he dwarfs him in line breaks, and line break assists

i am also willing to bet that adam reynolds has a way better career than blake austin

 

[snowman]

I'm gonna have to watch Austin a lot closer cause I don't see past decent utility.

thats because all he is, is a decent utility

 

[hamsy44]

Soward also has a quick, effective running game and a mean cut out on him. His kicking game is his main asset for sure but there's more to him.

Soward is fast yes but he doesn't really run much. This year Renyolds has run for 731 metres avg of 38.47 a game. Soward only has run for 524 avg 27.58 a game.

Yes Soward's passing game is better but of his 16 try assist 11 are from kicks.

 

[Capital_Shark]

thats because all he is, is a decent utility

Why did he leave Penrith? Seems like their sort of player.

 

[Fozzym]

reynolds is 3rd in kicking meters, 3rd in repeat sets, and has second most forced errors off kicks

also, he may only have 2 more try assists than robson, but he dwarfs him in line breaks, and line break assists

i am also willing to bet that adam reynolds has a way better career than blake austin

Ok, so assuming that he can come here into our systems, behind our forward pack, and replicate the form that he can produce under one of the best coaches in the game in Maguire, only to produce 2 more try assists than Robson, for THAT much money.

No thanks.

 

[HaroldBishop]

thats because all he is, is a decent utility

He's a slightly more agile version of JMo, that's about it.

 

[Bundy Shark]

I don't mind Hunt but up until this yr he hasn't dominated or played consistently enough to being in Broncos best 17 let alone starting 13, I know you could say the same or similar about Fifita but atleast Reynolds has had a few yrs of playing solid FG.

 

[Capital_Shark]

Ok, so assuming that he can come here into our systems, behind our forward pack, and replicate the form that he can produce under one of the best coaches in the game in Maguire, only to produce 2 more try assists than Robson, for THAT much money.

No thanks.

I reckon you underrate our pack and overrate Maguire.

Get our lot full strength running off Isaac Luke and backed by Inglis.

 

[snowman]

Ok, so assuming that he can come here into our systems, behind our forward pack, and replicate the form that he can produce under one of the best coaches in the game in Maguire, only to produce 2 more try assists than Robson, for THAT much money.

No thanks.

and you think ben hunt or dce are going to come here on big money and perform as they are now with a team full of no backs?

its clear as day we need a long kicking half, and reynolds fits that mould for us

if you want try assists, why werent you on here last year asking us to sign soward and wallacae instead of re-signing carney?

 

[snowman]

Why did he leave Penrith? Seems like their sort of player.

they didnt want him

 

[CrazyMatt]

Hunt is probably not coming guys. Take Reynolds while we can. A big fat yes to Reynolds.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Hunt is probably not coming guys. Take Reynolds while we can. A big fat yes to Reynolds.

But that's just it, is there really an opportunity to get him?