(Archived) THE RUMOUR MILL - Player Movement

[hamsy44]

Take it on this years form Hunt is the better player has more spark can create more in attack Reynolds has only laid on 2 more tries then Robson and has less linebreak assists (from memory)

HOWEVER

I do not think we will have a problem scoring points if we can play in our opponents end, Brown, Gagan, Holmes, Fifita and Ennis are all capable of being dangerous enough not to mention getting captain dip****, Luke "peaheart" Lewis and Wade "Dime a dozen" Graham room to work.

So I would rather we go with Renyolds for the points snow has raised and the fact that given he has played 3 years in first grade he is no longer an unknown - he burst onto the scene but has settled into a quality half back - Hunt is still a little unknown this was his breakout year he could go backwards like many have before.

 

[Fozzym]

What do people see in Reynolds? He's got nothing apart from an excellent kicking game, and when he's out of form he can be one of the biggest passengers in the comp.

If we entered with Todd Carney type money for him, it'd be diabolical. He straight up isn't worth that much, and we shouldn't pay overs just so we can get a halfback for next year that fits the criteria of "better than Robbo". That's called panicking.

Hunt, however, has a great passing, running and fair kicking game and is always improving, so I wouldn't be against offering that sort of money for him. He could well be a Dally M player by the end of the year, whereas Reynolds never will be.

If we can't get Hunt, I wouldn't be against waiting a year for the next lot to come off contract. Someone like Blake Austin or Kieran Foran come to mind. Either one to partner Brown would be good.

If we end up with Brown and Robson next year, which we probably will, a gameplan which utilises both players equally and allows them to play to their strengths, and the return of an actual coach, will see us play better as a team.

 

[HaroldBishop]

What do people see in Reynolds? He's got nothing apart from an excellent kicking game, and when he's out of form he can be one of the biggest passengers in the comp.

If we entered with Todd Carney type money for him, it'd be diabolical. He straight up isn't worth that much, and we shouldn't pay overs just so we can get a halfback for next year that fits the criteria of "better than Robbo". That's called panicking.

Hunt, however, has a great passing, running and fair kicking game and is always improving, so I wouldn't be against offering that sort of money for him. He could well be a Dally M player by the end of the year, whereas Reynolds never will be.

If we can't get Hunt, I wouldn't be against waiting a year for the next lot to come off contract. Someone like Blake Austin or Kieran Foran come to mind. Either one to partner Brown would be good.

If we end up with Brown and Robson next year, which we probably will, a gameplan which utilises both players equally and allows them to play to their strengths, and the return of an actual coach, will see us play better as a team.

Tend to agree re Hunt. Offers more than Reynolds for mine with his willingness to take the line on more (from what I've seen). Hunt is definitely my preference over Reynolds.

 

[Capital_Shark]

We'll probably end up with ****ing John Sutton

 

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We'll probably end up with ****ing John Sutton

Now there's a guy that's got Cronulla written all over him. Well, he's got Maroubra written all over him, but I could see him as a Cronulla type recruit, that's for sure.

 

[snowman]

What do people see in Reynolds? He's got nothing apart from an excellent kicking game, and when he's out of form he can be one of the biggest passengers in the comp.

If we entered with Todd Carney type money for him, it'd be diabolical. He straight up isn't worth that much, and we shouldn't pay overs just so we can get a halfback for next year that fits the criteria of "better than Robbo". That's called panicking.

Hunt, however, has a great passing, running and fair kicking game and is always improving, so I wouldn't be against offering that sort of money for him. He could well be a Dally M player by the end of the year, whereas Reynolds never will be.

If we can't get Hunt, I wouldn't be against waiting a year for the next lot to come off contract. Someone like Blake Austin or Kieran Foran come to mind. Either one to partner Brown would be good.

If we end up with Brown and Robson next year, which we probably will, a gameplan which utilises both players equally and allows them to play to their strengths, and the return of an actual coach, will see us play better as a team.

hang on, let me get this right...

you are saying no to adam reynolds, but then you want blake austin? smfh

 

[Capital_Shark]

Now there's a guy that's got Cronulla written all over him. Well, he's got Maroubra written all over him, but I could see him as a Cronulla type recruit, that's for sure.

hahaha **** tats and a Kim Jong crew cut to boot.

I just watched how seamlessly Souths kicked on after he limped off leaving a Keary/Reynolds halves pairing against the Raiders. Then the following week giving Newy a bath without him. Average opposition I know but 4-5wks ago they weren't putting scores on when they should. Sutton, in my opinion, has always been a ball-playing backrower who could fill a gap at 5/8 but shouldn't be your first choice. Like Bird and Lewis in years gone by. Unfortunately now I think he's played too much in the halves and doesn't have the workrate, stamina or desire to go to #13 where Souths need him. I'd say that shirt will be filled with the fatter Stewart brother next year, and for Sutton's wage you could probably keep Reynolds and pick up a young backrower.

 

[HaroldBishop]

hahaha **** tats and a Kim Jong crew cut to boot.

I just watched how seamlessly Souths kicked on after he limped off leaving a Keary/Reynolds halves pairing against the Raiders. Then the following week giving Newy a bath without him. Average opposition I know but 4-5wks ago they weren't putting scores on when they should. Sutton, in my opinion, has always been a ball-playing backrower who could fill a gap at 5/8 but shouldn't be your first choice. Like Bird and Lewis in years gone by. Unfortunately now I think he's played too much in the halves and doesn't have the workrate, stamina or desire to go to #13 where Souths need him. I'd say that shirt will be filled with the fatter Stewart brother next year, and for Sutton's wage you could probably keep Reynolds and pick up a young backrower.

Agree with that Cap. He's a very lazy footballer imo, I doubt he'll make a good fist of it in the backrow even though that's what would be best for his team.

 

[Capital_Shark]

Yep, I reckon Souths know it too. You don't shell out for fat Stewart if you got a capable #13.

Maybe its not Reynolds on the outter.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Yep, I reckon Souths know it too. You don't shell out for fat Stewart if you got a capable #13.

Maybe its not Reynolds on the outter.

I reckon that was another mistake. Stewart is well past his best imo.

 

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hahaha **** tats and a Kim Jong crew cut to boot.

I just watched how seamlessly Souths kicked on after he limped off leaving a Keary/Reynolds halves pairing against the Raiders. Then the following week giving Newy a bath without him. Average opposition I know but 4-5wks ago they weren't putting scores on when they should. Sutton, in my opinion, has always been a ball-playing backrower who could fill a gap at 5/8 but shouldn't be your first choice. Like Bird and Lewis in years gone by. Unfortunately now I think he's played too much in the halves and doesn't have the workrate, stamina or desire to go to #13 where Souths need him. I'd say that shirt will be filled with the fatter Stewart brother next year, and for Sutton's wage you could probably keep Reynolds and pick up a young backrower.

Yep totally agree.

 

[Capital_Shark]

I reckon that was another mistake. Stewart is well past his best imo.

Panic buy to soften the blow of S. Burgess' departure or perfectly timed to replace him? It'll be interesting to see if they pulled the right rein on this one.

Personally I hope they got a lemon.

 

[ABshark]

Sutton takes up almost none of their cap because he's their only 8 year + player.

He's also led the comp or thereabouts for try and LB assists consistently for about 5 years.

 

[Capital_Shark]

Sutton takes up almost none of their cap because he's their only 8 year + player.

Fair point.

He's also led the comp or thereabouts for try and LB assists consistently for about 5 years.

Imagine if he kept that up at lock and they had 2 genuine halves. Add in a fit Inglis and they might get 21.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Sutton takes up almost none of their cap because he's their only 8 year + player.

He's also led the comp or thereabouts for try and LB assists consistently for about 5 years.

I hate when you come in and spoil a good player bashing:glasses-cool:

Still lazy at times though.

 

[sharkboy1995]

Adam Reynolds ball playing ability is extremely over rated, in saying that he has a very solid and realiable kicking game which is what we are lacking. Say we do sign Reynolds we would need to structure his game and force him to become more of an organiser, if we're looking to have Brown as our long term 5/8 we could then allow him to further develop his running game and have Reynolds more then less control the side. Throw in Holmes hopefully having some ball playing ability at the back then suddenly were not looking so bad. Although would not throw all of Carneys money at Reynolds, to much money for someone like Reynolds.

P.s
Would happily spend Carneys money on Luke Keary if he was the one on the outer at souths.. Wishful thinking at its best though.

 

[Fozzym]

hang on, let me get this right...

you are saying no to adam reynolds, but then you want blake austin? smfh

He's not a completely one dimensional player unlike Reynolds. There's more to him than a kicking game and since he hasn't quite nailed a regular fg spot, he'd probably be more motivated to play better. He'd offer more.

 

[HaroldBishop]

He's not a completely one dimensional player unlike Reynolds. There's more to him than a kicking game and since he hasn't quite nailed a regular fg spot, he'd probably be more motivated to play better. He'd offer more.

Agree with you on Hunt but not Austin. He's a bench utility at best.

 

[hamsy44]

He's not a completely one dimensional player unlike Reynolds. There's more to him than a kicking game and since he hasn't quite nailed a regular fg spot, he'd probably be more motivated to play better. He'd offer more.

Blake is a horrible kicker though so we would be in the exact same position we are now constantly in our own end because the fullback/winger is getting the ball in their 20 on the full.

You have to create a balanced squad that works well as a team not just grab any player who is off contract.

What we need more then anything is a quality controlled kicking game and bloke who can lead the side from our own end and get the ball as close to their end as possible.

Hunt can do that and Renyolds can do that. It's personal preference as to who will do a better job over the long term.

 

[Fozzym]

Agree with you on Hunt but not Austin. He's a bench utility at best.

Fair play. My point being that you can't offer someone like Reynolds that kind of dosh when he won't offer you value for money.