Official 2024 Sharks NRL General Discussion

[HaroldBishop]

This is possibly one of the worst takes I've ever read. **** me.

How Sharks have hung $7m star out to dry

Bold release of teammate

wwos.nine.com.au

 

[BurgoShark]

This is possibly one of the worst takes I've ever read. **** me.

How Sharks have hung $7m star out to dry

Bold release of teammate

wwos.nine.com.au

The article isn't that bad. It's just the clickbait headline.

This is a reasonable thing to say.

Trindall is a talented player with tricks of his own - but is he ready to help steer the ship around for 20-plus rounds in a long and gruelling season? Time will tell...

 

[HaroldBishop]

The article isn't that bad. It's just the clickbait headline.

This is a reasonable thing to say.

Disagree with you on that.

 

[Proud Shark]

Disagree with you on that.

Really? You don't have any question marks on whether Tricky is up for it?

Don't get me wrong, Moylan was done, but that doesn't make Tricky a sure thing.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Really? You don't have any question marks on whether Tricky is up for it?

Don't get me wrong, Moylan was done, but that doesn't make Tricky a sure thing.

For sure I do. The article questions whether Tricky is up for steering the side around. Well I don't think Moylan is either so there's nothing to lose imo.

 

[Ronnie]

Moyza was still good in attack. If he could still tackle he’d still be here.

 

[Proud Shark]

For sure I do. The article questions whether Tricky is up for steering the side around. Well I don't think Moylan is either so there's nothing to lose imo.

I agree, but that doesn't mean there won't be more pressure on Nicho with this combo.

 

[BurgoShark]

Disagree with you on that.

For sure I do..

Make up your mind

The Mole is saying that Tricky is an unknown quantity and they might have been better off going to market for a 6. That's a fair call. Moylan is irrelevant.

It just should have come with a headline "is Tricky the right man for the job?" instead of "Nicho hung out to dry". For all we know we wrote it that way and some editor in charge of clickbait changed it.

 

[stormshark]

This is possibly one of the worst takes I've ever read. **** me.

How Sharks have hung $7m star out to dry

Bold release of teammate

wwos.nine.com.au

Agree, flipping it, underlines the Coaches Confidence in Trindle, and other supporting halves.

 

[Sparkles]

This Stat can also be seen as a positive.
We have the 3rd least experienced squad but still making the 8.
Imagine what we could do when our younger guys get more games/experience behind them…….

I think I'm more concerned about the 27-28 year old guys

 

[bort]

For sure I do. The article questions whether Tricky is up for steering the side around. Well I don't think Moylan is either so there's nothing to lose imo.

Just made me wonder how they went for wins and how our different pairings went

Win percentage last season starting in halves
Trindall 45%
Moylan 55%
Hynes 62%

Pairings
Moylan-Trindall 25%
- (beat 10th)
- (lost to 8th, 9th, 5th)
- average ladder position of wins 10, average ladder position of loses 7.3, average ladder position played 8.65
Trindall-Hynes 57%
- (beat 9th, 14th, 11th, 8th)
- (lost to 12th, 1st, 7th)
- average ladder position of wins 10.5, average ladder position of loses 8.7, average ladder position played 9.6
Moylan-Hynes 60%
- (beat 16th, 7th, 15th, 11th, 12th, 5th, 15th, 16th, 17th)
- (lost to 4th, 13th, 2nd, 3rd, 4th)
- average ladder position of wins 10.9, average ladder position of loses 6, average ladder position played 8.5

Clear takeaway is Moylan-Trindall was not the pairing we want to go ahead with!
(despite winning against the highest placed average position of teams on ladder...)

Moylan-Hynes had the best win %, and against the strongest average opponents, although definitely fair to say they didn't play super comparable oppositions to the Trindall-Hynes combo (doubling up only on Cows, Seagles and Roosters).
Moylan-Hynes did put up wins against worst placed teams on average, but had our two best wins, 5th and 7th.

A bit more on topic I think this suggests Trindall is close enough, with more room to improve than Moylan, that we shouldn't really be any worse off.
However as we all know, we need not just the halves pairing but a whole squad full of people to start turning more of these lower numbers (higher up ladder) from Ls into Ws

 

[HaroldBishop]

I agree, but that doesn't mean there won't be more pressure on Nicho with this combo.

Nicho is our halfback and on a seven figure salary, there should be pressure on him tbh.

Having Moylan leak tries* in defence only creates more pressure on Nicho as well.

*Not blaming the entire left deficiencies on him but he was the main component imo.

 

[stormshark]

Dee up and down for sure. Some of Moylans defence was very courageous last year, and some that come to mind just downright feeble, embarrassing. We sure need Robson type defence in that area/spot this year

 

[Proud Shark]

Nicho is our halfback and on a seven figure salary, there should be pressure on him tbh.

Having Moylan leak tries* in defence only creates more pressure on Nicho as well.

*Not blaming the entire left deficiencies on him but he was the main component imo.

Again, I agree. I was only mentioning that most of the article is accurate regarding question marks around Trindall and more pressure on Hynes. I'm not taking any position in which Moylan should have been retained instead.

 

[Jaz]

C'mon fellas, let's not overthink it. We all know it's a wanker article.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Again, I agree. I was only mentioning that most of the article is accurate regarding question marks around Trindall and more pressure on Hynes. I'm not taking any position in which Moylan should have been retained instead.

The bit I disagree with is Nicho will be under more pressure with Tricky. Nicho puts too much pressure on himself moreso than it coming from anyone else.

 

[Sparkles]

The bit I disagree with is Nicho will be under more pressure with Tricky. Nicho puts too much pressure on himself moreso than it coming from anyone else.

I do remember quite a few times when Nicho got a little rattled and needed to take a step back and Moylan ran the team until he could get his **** together. I'm not saying Trindall won't be able to do that, but with Nicho being the senior half now you'd have to say there'll be even more responsibility on his shoulders. And there's no ex-half Wade to offer his calming, charismatic presence either. Can't forget Trindall's still a relative NRL rookie as a starting 6.

 

[Deleted member 3365]

I do remember quite a few times when Nicho got a little rattled and needed to take a step back and Moylan ran the team until he could get his **** together. I'm not saying Trindall won't be able to do that, but with Nicho being the senior half now you'd have to say there'll be even more responsibility on his shoulders. And there's no ex-half Wade to offer his calming, charismatic presence either. Can't forget Trindall's still a relative NRL rookie as a starting 6.

People tend to forget this.

Problem I reckon is that we aren't the Cronulla Sharks rather we are Nicho's Sharks team. Too much talk about Nicho this and Nicho that, that's how you put pressure on a player.

 

[bort]

People tend to forget this.

Problem I reckon is that we aren't the Cronulla Sharks rather we are Nicho's Sharks team. Too much talk about Nicho this and Nicho that, that's how you put pressure on a player.

That's because people have had him pencilled in as their starting 7 for like the last 3 years

 

[BurgoShark]

That's because people have had him pencilled in as their starting 7 for like the last 3 years

He has a very impressive resume.

- he’s not Chad
- he’s not Moyza

Remember when Fitz was ruining Tricky’s development by having him play from the bench etc? Good times.