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I think Fitz would probably put Dale back on the bench for 4 to 6 tweeks then will decide on merit who should be there after that.

I get the feeling he learnt a lot in the off-season about team selection (ie keeping Moylan in the team too long)
 

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That’s who I missed. Thanks mate
Makes sense to leave him off at this stage but just wanted to highlight how good the depth is atm

Still need to lockdown Jacky as it’d be a shame to lose him but add AFB and damn, can’t keep everyone
 

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Has there been an agenda against Tricky? I don't think so, I mean who was it being seriously proposed to take his place in the halves? No one else is really ready and Tricky is still building his combo with Hynes.

Criticism is par for the course of being a regular first grader and I think most of it was reasonably fair, let's not forget Hynes has been copping it too - prob more cause of his pay packet

No one has really questioned Trickys talent or commitment, maybe more his role and form.

Good news is that there were encouraging signs from him against the Rabbits and he played a good game
 
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Has there been an agenda against Tricky? I don't think so, I mean who was it being seriously proposed to take his place in the halves? No one else is really ready and Tricky is still building his combo with Hynes.

Criticism is par for the course of being a regular first grader and I think most of it was reasonably fair, let's not forget Hynes has been copping it too - prob more cause of his pay packet

No one has really questioned Trickys talent or commitment, maybe more his role and form.

Good news is that there were encouraging signs from him against the Rabbits and he played a good game
I don’t think he has had a “bad” game (other than the Tigers game, but everyone had a bad game that day).

Sure, he has made some mistakes in other games but has also done some great work too.

i think he is building nicely TBH.

Hopefully that continues against the Cowboys this week.
 

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Has there been an agenda against Tricky? I don't think so, I mean who was it being seriously proposed to take his place in the halves? No one else is really ready and Tricky is still building his combo with Hynes.

Criticism is par for the course of being a regular first grader and I think most of it was reasonably fair, let's not forget Hynes has been copping it too - prob more cause of his pay packet

No one has really questioned Trickys talent or commitment, maybe more his role and form.

Good news is that there were encouraging signs from him against the Rabbits and he played a good game
Dykes. But not by serious people
 
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I think Fitz would probably put Dale back on the bench for 4 to 6 tweeks then will decide on merit who should be there after that.

I get the feeling he learnt a lot in the off-season about team selection (ie keeping Moylan in the team too long)
Not sure I see Dale playing that many games in a row to be honest
 

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Dykes. But not by serious people
I think plenty have mused that Dykes might get the 6 eventually, but until we see start kicking the ball I think it's unlikely.

I've been the most critical of Trindall. Has been making too many errors and he doesn't provide any quality ball to his own edge. First one is easily fixable but the second imo is a bigger issue. Just my opinion though.

Objectively... anyone claiming Tricky was the "dominant" half or "driving the bus" on the weekend is demonstrably incorrect.
- NRL.com had him down for 32 touches last week.
- 11 were kicks and 14 were either scrum feeds, dummy half passes or clean-up plays (getting to kicks and loose balls).
- That means Trindall had 7 touches of the ball on attacking plays in 80 minutes, and none were inside his own half.
- Nicho hit 7 touches in the 11th minute when the score was nil-all, and 3 of those came in the Cronulla half

The role Trindall is playing is quite obviously supporting one, and that aligns with what the coach has said repeatedly (he says "complementary").
 
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I think plenty have mused that Dykes might get the 6 eventually, but until we see start kicking the ball I think it's unlikely.

I've been the most critical of Trindall. Has been making too many errors and he doesn't provide any quality ball to his own edge. First one is easily fixable but the second imo is a bigger issue. Just my opinion though.

Objectively... anyone claiming Tricky was the "dominant" half or "driving the bus" on the weekend is demonstrably incorrect.
- NRL.com had him down for 32 touches last week.
- 11 were kicks and 14 were either scrum feeds, dummy half passes or clean-up plays (getting to kicks and loose balls).
- That means Trindall had 7 touches of the ball on attacking plays in 80 minutes, and none were inside his own half.
- Nicho hit 7 touches in the 11th minute when the score was nil-all, and 3 of those came in the Cronulla half

The role Trindall is playing is quite obviously supporting one, and that aligns with what the coach has said repeatedly (he says "complementary").
Could be worse, we could have Reece Walsh in the team....
 

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I think plenty have mused that Dykes might get the 6 eventually, but until we see start kicking the ball I think it's unlikely.

I've been the most critical of Trindall. Has been making too many errors and he doesn't provide any quality ball to his own edge. First one is easily fixable but the second imo is a bigger issue. Just my opinion though.

Objectively... anyone claiming Tricky was the "dominant" half or "driving the bus" on the weekend is demonstrably incorrect.
- NRL.com had him down for 32 touches last week.
- 11 were kicks and 14 were either scrum feeds, dummy half passes or clean-up plays (getting to kicks and loose balls).
- That means Trindall had 7 touches of the ball on attacking plays in 80 minutes, and none were inside his own half.
- Nicho hit 7 touches in the 11th minute when the score was nil-all, and 3 of those came in the Cronulla half

The role Trindall is playing is quite obviously supporting one, and that aligns with what the coach has said repeatedly (he says "complementary").
Trindall's kicking game makes him pretty valuable. Along with his defense. If you have those as two of three critical criteria (ballplayer the other? Mongrel is the fourth but I've left it out for now) then he's actually really well positioned to keep the job.
 

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Trindall has started the year fairly well. I would expect him to take on more and more as the year progresses, you don't overwhelm a young half with too much responsibility at the start of the year in a winning team.
 

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I think plenty have mused that Dykes might get the 6 eventually, but until we see start kicking the ball I think it's unlikely.

I've been the most critical of Trindall. Has been making too many errors and he doesn't provide any quality ball to his own edge. First one is easily fixable but the second imo is a bigger issue. Just my opinion though.

Objectively... anyone claiming Tricky was the "dominant" half or "driving the bus" on the weekend is demonstrably incorrect.
- NRL.com had him down for 32 touches last week.
- 11 were kicks and 14 were either scrum feeds, dummy half passes or clean-up plays (getting to kicks and loose balls).
- That means Trindall had 7 touches of the ball on attacking plays in 80 minutes, and none were inside his own half.
- Nicho hit 7 touches in the 11th minute when the score was nil-all, and 3 of those came in the Cronulla half

The role Trindall is playing is quite obviously supporting one, and that aligns with what the coach has said repeatedly (he says "complementary").
They count scrum feeds as a touch? I can't refute that but it doesn't seem like it should be the case. Ball is effectively not live until they release it.

Definitely don't see how Trindall was the dominant half in any way either. He took more kicks than usual and my sense remembering back was if Hynes and Trindall both touched the ball in the play Trindall was typically the second receiver - sometimes seems like the 'more important' receiver as more recently touches ball before a score or score attempt but that doesn't make him dominant either.

Trindall has started the year fairly well. I would expect him to take on more and more as the year progresses, you don't overwhelm a young half with too much responsibility at the start of the year in a winning team.
Yeah generally speaking playing well - him and the team in general have plenty of improvement in them which is a promising given we have started well regardless
 

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Who do we see standing up for us at the business end of the season? Maybe I'm being pessimistic but I don't see anyone being capable of it at this early stage, hopefully that changes.

Man how good was our 2016 team!!
 

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I think plenty have mused that Dykes might get the 6 eventually, but until we see start kicking the ball I think it's unlikely.

I've been the most critical of Trindall. Has been making too many errors and he doesn't provide any quality ball to his own edge. First one is easily fixable but the second imo is a bigger issue. Just my opinion though.

Objectively... anyone claiming Tricky was the "dominant" half or "driving the bus" on the weekend is demonstrably incorrect.
- NRL.com had him down for 32 touches last week.
- 11 were kicks and 14 were either scrum feeds, dummy half passes or clean-up plays (getting to kicks and loose balls).
- That means Trindall had 7 touches of the ball on attacking plays in 80 minutes, and none were inside his own half.
- Nicho hit 7 touches in the 11th minute when the score was nil-all, and 3 of those came in the Cronulla half

The role Trindall is playing is quite obviously supporting one, and that aligns with what the coach has said repeatedly (he says "complementary").
So little touches but heavily involved in over half of our tries and our best kicks

Your post doesn’t highlight Trindall as bad you hope it does but it actually makes Hynes look questionable with all that dominating and not that great of a game

Imagine Moylan had that game Trindall had .. you’d be trying to spoof it all over everyone
 
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Who do we see standing up for us at the business end of the season? Maybe I'm being pessimistic but I don't see anyone being capable of it at this early stage, hopefully that changes.

Man how good was our 2016 team!!
Yeah it's going to take some serious combination building from our spine. Right now, I'd say Blayke is in the best form of any of them, but what he's offering wont be enough to win a finals game alone.
 

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Who do we see standing up for us at the business end of the season? Maybe I'm being pessimistic but I don't see anyone being capable of it at this early stage, hopefully that changes.

Man how good was our 2016 team!!
I think we need to capitalise on our forwards (in particular our bench rotation) and our outside backs.

It may be as 'simple as:
1. Holding our own for first 20
2. Dominating field position once our bench comes on
3. Spreading to our wingers (eventually we will cross)
4. Minimise tries against us (ie defence).
 

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Mulitalo, hynes and trindall I think are our likely game breakers when it is on the line. Last year I would just put hynes in the cateogry.
 

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Who do we see standing up for us at the business end of the season? Maybe I'm being pessimistic but I don't see anyone being capable of it at this early stage, hopefully that changes.

Man how good was our 2016 team!!

Hard to say, the team is building and needs to continue to do so towards back end of the season. I think we need our whole spine bubbling by the time we play finals.

Our pack is showing promising signs so need to maintain that and lift the intensity come September. Winning finals games ain't easy as we know and the team has kinda been disappointing collectively in finals games so I think we need a team effort regardless - everyone needs to step up essentially and play their best footy.

Nicho will be feeling the pressure and wanting to prove something but he can't just take over, needs to trust his team mates and structures and do his role. If it ain't working and we are losing and things are getting desperate then yea I am happy for someone to step up, take the bull by the horns and try to carry us home.
 
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