2022 NRL Round 3: Cronulla Sutherland Sharks vs St George Illawara Dragons @ WIN Stadium - Thursday 24 March @ 8:05pm

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They rode us pretty hard when we tried to tell John Morris he won’t be re-signed as our coach.

I think it’s all changed massively since poster boy Fitz has become the face of the club.

Who on channel 9 or the media want to say anything bad about him? He’s played with, been coached by and helped coach with everyone
 

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Our kick pressure was better this game than against Parra where Moses had more time (not quite enough with Tieg lol) though Moses was also having to stand deeper due to get time thank to our new found pushing up aggressive defense.

Our kick chase has been very good as well . These 2 things are attitude things and make a big difference to the yardage / pressure game and with that comes momentum and less energy spent defending the red zone. This is reflected in the kick return stats for the game, ours were close to double the Dragons.

Very noticeable this season compared to previous where we were constantly camped on our line and conceding line breaks all over the shop from down field.

Our discipline and handling was better too despite the poor conditions. Every week we are improving and we haven't hit the ceiling yet. Some numpty on Parra forum said the other week that is the best we will be (in Rnd 2), no more improvement in us - straight away I thought how wrong he was

Dragons tried to kick their way to victory in attack with grubbers, cross field kicks ect (out of ideas already ?) and we covered it up and instead in attack we run hard and straight and with our shape unlocked our backline and created space on the edges.

Forwards, spine and backline were fantastic and game plan well put together. Use of our bench and rotations is best it's been since Flanno days

That was one of the best 80 mins we have put together in a while , we don't seem to be clocking off under Fitz or taking easy options, we are fighting for the win the whole game

Hynes slotting his conversions this week gave us alot of extra breathing room too and made the Dragons even more desperate and demoralised

Good all round team performance, players knew their roles and did them well. We were a threat on the edges and up the middle all night.

If the Dragons didn't turn up it's because we didn't let them. Frankly our squad outclasses them

But the Dragons stuck with us for about the first 20 mins even if by then it was clear we were the better more dominant team but we eventually started converting that momentum and field position into points and didn't take our foot off the gas.

No second half syndrome was pleasing to see, we kept playing the same way that worked in the first 40 mins

Tough for Dragons to come back from that and they didn't

Our execution was impressive in those conditions , Dragons are lucky it wasn't a dry track or it could have been more, though their defense maybe would have had bit of easier time laterally and sticking in tackles ect.

We conceded a fairly soft try when Connor was down injured (game not stopped?) and got caught short for numbers and another from a good Ben Hunt kick. Had some close ones dissallowed for Dragons (correctly) but also stopped some over the line with some good scrambling and last ditch tackles / body positioning.

Overall our defense was almost as pleasing as our attack.

We are on our way in Season 2022! Let's keep it going next week against Knights cause I think we are gunna enjoy getting used to winning again and crave more and more and hopefully not have to scrape into the 8 but shooting for locking down a spot in the 4 which is looking realistic the way the 16 teams have started
 
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Yep. Spot on Gards.

Fitz, Cam, Dale and Nicho have bought that professionalism back to our squad.
It’s almost an “I dare you not to put in” attitude from the forward pack for fear of reprisals from the first 3 at least.

Nicho is just happy to be out there and gives the “follow me boys” 1000% attitude.
All of that is rubbing off and Fitz would be demanding 100++% OR ELSE, so players are stepping up.

Brailey is coming out of his shell more (maybe he is being allowed the extra freedoms), Ramien is playing more to what we thought his potential is and the enthusiasm of the remaining back line (TC, RM and Sexy) is getting us off to good starts in our sets.

Having great depth (in most positions) and competition for spots is also very helpful in driving the players to perform.

Still have lots of improvement needed to go to compete with the likes of the Pennies, Storm, Bunnies and Maybe Sea Eagles (Roosters are a myth this season I reckon) but we are a long way off of our ceiling so we are more than capable.
 

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If the Dragons didn't turn up it's because we didn't let them. Frankly our squad outclasses them

But the Dragons stuck with us for about the first 20 mins even if by then it was clear we were the better more dominant team but we eventually started converting that momentum and field position into points and didn't take our foot off the gas.

No second half syndrome was pleasing to see, we kept playing the same way that worked in the first 40 mins
I thought Dragons played decent for a lot of the game
A fraction of a percent less effort/execution by us and the score looks very different

We overcame a good start by them, and managed to mostly hold them at bay the whole game.
Took very clean passing in the wet to beat the dragons twice when they were on 12 men then Kennedy held up a try.
Great effort and execution has our tails up on 10 nil instead of maybe something like 6 all.

Our second rower (Talakai) then beat Ravalawa for a kick in the air. And then at the death of the half we had the Dugan penalty and kicked it to take us to 18 nil against a pretty solid first half by dragons.

Then they open the half with a Bird try to get some hope back, and we follow it up with the string of passes and kicks (and attempted kicks) for the Ramien try which was pretty flukey but possible due to all our guys pushing up and staying alive.

Brailey kicks for BHU and finishes them off, 30-6 with around 25 mins left and Ikuvalu break and Hynes put the final nail in but they were out of the game by then. They get a consolation against 12 men at the end.
 

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I thought Dragons played decent for a lot of the game
A fraction of a percent less effort/execution by us and the score looks very different

We overcame a good start by them, and managed to mostly hold them at bay the whole game.
Took very clean passing in the wet to beat the dragons twice when they were on 12 men then Kennedy held up a try.
Great effort and execution has our tails up on 10 nil instead of maybe something like 6 all.

Our second rower (Talakai) then beat Ravalawa for a kick in the air. And then at the death of the half we had the Dugan penalty and kicked it to take us to 18 nil against a pretty solid first half by dragons.

Then they open the half with a Bird try to get some hope back, and we follow it up with the string of passes and kicks (and attempted kicks) for the Ramien try which was pretty flukey but possible due to all our guys pushing up and staying alive.

Brailey kicks for BHU and finishes them off, 30-6 with around 25 mins left and Ikuvalu break and Hynes put the final nail in but they were out of the game by then. They get a consolation against 12 men at the end.
Bit of a harsh call on him given he wasn't even at the game.
 

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Dally M points
Hynes 3
Talakai 2
Ben Hunt 1

That’s got to be a complete joke doesn’t it? Every other Sharks player deserved the 1 point over him
 

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I thought Dragons played decent for a lot of the game
A fraction of a percent less effort/execution by us and the score looks very different

We overcame a good start by them, and managed to mostly hold them at bay the whole game.
Took very clean passing in the wet to beat the dragons twice when they were on 12 men then Kennedy held up a try.
Great effort and execution has our tails up on 10 nil instead of maybe something like 6 all.

Our second rower (Talakai) then beat Ravalawa for a kick in the air. And then at the death of the half we had the Dugan penalty and kicked it to take us to 18 nil against a pretty solid first half by dragons.

Then they open the half with a Bird try to get some hope back, and we follow it up with the string of passes and kicks (and attempted kicks) for the Ramien try which was pretty flukey but possible due to all our guys pushing up and staying alive.

Brailey kicks for BHU and finishes them off, 30-6 with around 25 mins left and Ikuvalu break and Hynes put the final nail in but they were out of the game by then. They get a consolation against 12 men at the end.

Never said it was easy, you still have to play well to beat most teams in the NRL. We worked hard and back ourselves every opportunity and it paid off. Dragons were solid if unremarkable but didn't handle our physicality, speed and energy well and looked off the pace as a consequence.

Those little moments we won where the Dragons might have otherwise scored well that's every week in the NRL and we typically won those moments more often than the opposition, that's a sign of a good team, winning those line ball moments. Storm does it every week, it's not like teams don't get chances to score against them.

last season we lose alot of those moments, don't hold up the ball carrier over the line, don't make that last covering tackle in the corner ect.

Fine margins between winning and losing in this game as we know but I still think we would have come out on top if it were more a close fought game over the 80 mins scoreboard wise.

Dally M points
Hynes 3
Talakai 2
Ben Hunt 1

That’s got to be a complete joke doesn’t it? Every other Sharks player deserved the 1 point over him

Who were the voters?

Ben Hunt tbf tried to crawl that dragons team out the whole game, not all of their players made the same efforts
 

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Dally M points
Hynes 3
Talakai 2
Ben Hunt 1

That’s got to be a complete joke doesn’t it? Every other Sharks player deserved the 1 point over him
I think it's fair. Ben Hunt almost single-handedly kept them in the game.
 

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I think it's fair. Ben Hunt almost single-handedly kept them in the game.
A 36 point hiding where you could argue nearly every Sharks player to poll though makes it hard for me to even consider him.

He might of played ok but he still missed 4 tackles and 2 errors, hardly worthy of a point from a losing side over someone like Kennedy for example who I think played the perfect fullbacks game in those conditions.
 

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Who were the voters?

Ben Hunt tbf tried to crawl that dragons team out the whole game, not all of their players made the same efforts
Roy Masters. Former Dragons coach 🤷‍♂️

Giving him the 1 point though is pretty much saying he was the 3rd best on the field that night, more so than the Dragons best
 

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Jeez, I did say almost.

I thought Hunt had a great game. He troubled us on our try line and if it weren't for his bombs/long kicks we would have beaten 'em 50+.

I'd have no issue with Kennedy, Finucane, Brailey, etc. getting the 1 point either, but it's far from the worst Daly M pick I've seen.
 

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Hunt wasn't even in the top 5 best players on the field that night but a player from the losing team usually scores a sympathy vote or so it doesn't look too biased / one sided

Dally M's is such a flawed process anyway, the judges aren't even consistent for each game week to week and well known players tend to attract votes at the expense of lesser know ones at times even if they had strong games (ahem Ikavalu) . At least they didn't forget Talakai who had a monster game. Best on field with Hynes.

I think in general the public have a bit of award fatigue these days and care a bit less about them, it's nice if our fav players win them and deserve it but I think fans are more concerned with their teams performances than some rating of who is considered 'best'

At least it's not the Oscars - now that is an awards show in bad taste with dwindling viewership and deservedly so
 

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Jeez, I did say almost.

I thought Hunt had a great game. He troubled us on our try line and if it weren't for his bombs/long kicks we would have beaten 'em 50+.

I'd have no issue with Kennedy, Finucane, Brailey, etc. getting the 1 point either, but it's far from the worst Daly M pick I've seen.
All good mate I do get where you are coming from that Hunt wasn’t to bad in a losing side.

Just I think if there is ever a game where Sharks/winning side poll 3, 2, 1 very easily, that was it. Those 3 mentioned should feel unlucky if it ever come down to 1 point for them in their Dally M position at the end of the year
 
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Jeez, I did say almost.

I thought Hunt had a great game. He troubled us on our try line and if it weren't for his bombs/long kicks we would have beaten 'em 50+.

I'd have no issue with Kennedy, Finucane, Brailey, etc. getting the 1 point either, but it's far from the worst Daly M pick I've seen.
Yes mate you did, but I didn’t think it was almost either. Just my humble opinion.

Gards is right with what he said about awards so it’s not a huge issue I guess.

He’s also right about the Oscars, did you all see what Will Smith just did to Chris Rock?
 
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Jeez, I did say almost.

I thought Hunt had a great game. He troubled us on our try line and if it weren't for his bombs/long kicks we would have beaten 'em 50+.

I'd have no issue with Kennedy, Finucane, Brailey, etc. getting the 1 point either, but it's far from the worst Daly M pick I've seen.
Yep agree with you, I have no issue with it.
 
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He’s also right about the Oscars, did you all see what Will Smith just did to Chris Rock?
Bigger hit than any on the field this year! Talk about making it interesting again.
 
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