2022 NRL Round 3: Cronulla Sutherland Sharks vs St George Illawara Dragons @ WIN Stadium - Thursday 24 March @ 8:05pm

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Really looking forward to this game, reckon this could be a high quality derby.
 

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Teams look pretty even at this early stage of the competition.
 

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Dragqueens were unlucky against Penrith. We will need to aim up.
 

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Dragons look an improved team thus far in early parts of season 2022. Might be turning into a half decent solid team so we will need to be awake.

But we should have the quality in players to win, our defense is a big plus that we can rely on more now so a matter of if our execution in attack clicks and what Dragons come up with to counter it.

I think we should continue to create plenty of opportunities so we just need to finish off as many as possible, back our defense and hopefully not have to win/lose in the last minutes like first 2 rounds.

Their backline has some elusiveness and pace and a mix of big and small players, something we haven't handled well in previous seasons is those fleet of foot players but I think we are fairing alot better under the new regime.

Some offloaders in their forward pack, still a problem for us so gotta wrap them up where possible and scramble to shut down the second phase

Need to improve discipline and cut out errors and penalties. We have gone pretty well despite these issues so imagine how much less pressure will be on us and instead on the opposition if we sort it out.

Dragons prob feel they owe us a couple and keen to get a win over us after a couple seasons of taking the L against us Sharkies.
They are 1 win away from squaring up the overall Win/Loss Record against us since becoming The Merged

Bird and Woods to have a shocker would be welcome
 

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We need to improve our last tackle kick options when attacking, need to build repeat sets to maintain pressure.
 

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I heard Woodsy on Triple M on Saturday, he was saying he was planning to go down to Shark Park and have a few beers on Saturday night. Seemed like he was taking it all well.
 

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I heard Woodsy on Triple M on Saturday, he was saying he was planning to go down to Shark Park and have a few beers on Saturday night. Seemed like he was taking it all well.
Definitely comes across as a top bloke, just don't like him as a player.
 
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Woodsy would be still injured you would think. Shame really.
NRL casualty ward says he should return Round 3. We'll see if he is named.

Dragons are a much better team this year but I have noticed they do have some errors in them.

They can be guilty of pushing the pass a bit. Bird and Lomax need to be watched though, they are very dangerous.

Their young fullback is a bit of a livewire as well, hard to tackle and very quick.

It will be a tough game down there (always is), closer than normal but I am hopeful with our defence we can get the win.
 

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Hope they watched the Broncos Bulldogs game. We need a kicking game like that.
 
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NRL casualty ward says he should return Round 3. We'll see if he is named.

Dragons are a much better team this year but I have noticed they do have some errors in them.

They can be guilty of pushing the pass a bit. Bird and Lomax need to be watched though, they are very dangerous.

Their young fullback is a bit of a livewire as well, hard to tackle and very quick.

It will be a tough game down there (always is), closer than normal but I am hopeful with our defence we can get the win.
Should be a good tussle then, we have mistakes in us as well, I’m not stat savy but I’m guessing, collectively, in rounds 1 & 2 we’d have around 70% completions?
 

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Should be a good tussle then, we have mistakes in us as well, I’m not stat savy but I’m guessing, collectively, in rounds 1 & 2 we’d have around 70% completions?
Stats on competitions are quite misleading since the introduction of set restarts.

- Get a set restart on tackle 1, hold the ball for another 5 tackles = 2 complete sets
- Get a set restart on tackle 1 and drop it straight away = 1 complete set and 1 incomplete set
- Get 3 restarts in the last 5 minutes attacking the opposition line, get a penalty the 4th time it happens, then score = 5 complete sets
 

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Stats on competitions are quite misleading since the introduction of set restarts.

- Get a set restart on tackle 1, hold the ball for another 5 tackles = 2 complete sets
- Get a set restart on tackle 1 and drop it straight away = 1 complete set and 1 incomplete set
- Get 3 restarts in the last 5 minutes attacking the opposition line, get a penalty the 4th time it happens, then score = 5 complete sets
Huh. Didn't know that's how they counted it. So basically as accurate as an Andrew Fifita tackle breaks number
 

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Huh. Didn't know that's how they counted it. So basically as accurate as an Andrew Fifita tackle breaks number
Yep - and since the vast majority of set restarts happen on tackles 0 and 1 the completion stats are massively inflated for the whole league.

Sharks completed 75% against the Eels (28/37) but they received 2 set restarts and 8 penalties. Their actual completions were 18/27 - which is 66% - and that doesn’t take in to account any regular “six more” calls (pass knocked down, attempted strip, etc.).

The other thing is that if you run it on the last tackle and get caught and hand it over - that’s a completed set. If you run it on the last, get caught and throw a wild pass knowing it is the last - which is dropped - that is an incomplete set.

I think a competed set should be “you get the ball, and you either score, force a dropout, force a mistake, kick the ball after tackle 0, or attempt to run the ball on the last tackle”. There is no stat for that.
 
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Stats on competitions are quite misleading since the introduction of set restarts.

- Get a set restart on tackle 1, hold the ball for another 5 tackles = 2 complete sets
- Get a set restart on tackle 1 and drop it straight away = 1 complete set and 1 incomplete set
- Get 3 restarts in the last 5 minutes attacking the opposition line, get a penalty the 4th time it happens, then score = 5 complete sets
Interesting, I didn’t know that, maybe I should have said we, so far this season make our own fair share of errors over the course of the game, handling etc along with cheap penalties
If we can get that improved we’ll be even tougher to beat & we wouldn’t have been in a position to lose to Raiders cause we would have been further ahead
 

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Whatever our stats show - definitely a area we need to improve on.
 
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