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HaroldBishop

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The link with racism is obviously because of what happened with Goodes.

It is a pretty rough look now that it is coincidentally happening to another outspoken/proud indigenous man. I don’t think the racism angle is so far fetched.

Why wasn’t Val booed when he literally walked out on us before preseason started and tore us to bits on the weekend. There’s been plenty of others as well.

I’m not saying everyone that is booing is racist, or has an issue with indigenous players, but its not a good look for the game - and if anyone is serious about an individuals mental health, indigenous or not, the booing is pretty ****ed.

I’ve heard racial abuse yelled out at Latrell, and previously really badly at G.I and Tallis. There’s some mugs at footy games.

I hope sharks fans don’t boo.

Probably two reasons, he didn't rip the head off one of our players when playing against us and play the victim.

Secondly, I dare say the fact he was out of the game for 12 months before returning allowed people to settle down a bit.
 

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To say there is no race element to any of it is ignorant, but to say the whole thing has a race element is equally as ignorant. I can also completely empathise how one might get to this conclusion, because if you hear 10000 boos, + a few ********s yelling out racist ****, you're probably going to assume the crowd is racist.

Meanwhile, there's probably 9500 of those people who just don't like you as a footballer. Thefact that this has been pretty isolated to roosters fans, shows that this is more likely the case.

The crowd can realistically only interact with the field in two ways, by cheering or booing. I think the NRL could be stronger in coming out and making examples of the racist deadshits, but they'll never stop fans booing, nor should they.
I think also from Latrell's perspective if people are booing him and some of them are racist it probably sits better to assume they are all booing you because they are knobs rather than accept most are booing you because you're a knob.

There are a lot of good Indigenous players who play clean and don't get boo'd.
A lot of white players who have played dirty and do get boo'd, and would even more so if they spoke out about not liking being boo'd
 

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To say there is no race element to any of it is ignorant, but to say the whole thing has a race element is equally as ignorant. I can also completely empathise how one might get to this conclusion, because if you hear 10000 boos, + a few ********s yelling out racist ****, you're probably going to assume the crowd is racist.

Meanwhile, there's probably 9500 of those people who just don't like you as a footballer. Thefact that this has been pretty isolated to roosters fans, shows that this is more likely the case.

The crowd can realistically only interact with the field in two ways, by cheering or booing. I think the NRL could be stronger in coming out and making examples of the racist deadshits, but they'll never stop fans booing, nor should they.
im not going to tell latrell how he feels about being booed, and no doubt some of it is race

however, keary and crichton were booed by the rabbits crowd in their return game and they are whiter than cocaine

probably has more to do with latrell smashing manu's face in and not really giving a **** that he did it, and combine that with continuously destroying the roosters when they play
 

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Probably two reasons, he didn't rip the head off one of our players when playing against us and play the victim.

Secondly, I dare say the fact he was out of the game for 12 months before returning allowed people to settle down a bit.
yeah, that’s fair. I’m probably a little sensitive on the matter.

Also, I like Latrell and I hate Roosters, so I’m biased there too.
 

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yeah, that’s fair. I’m probably a little sensitive on the matter.

Also, I like Latrell and I hate Roosters, so I’m biased there too.
All good mate.

I think having villians in the game is a healthy thing otherwise it all becomes a bit boring. When it becomes racist though that is 100% crossing the line and those people need to be held accountable.
 

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Found this on reddit. Hits the nail on the head.

“People are quick to point out 'his a grub', but that doesn't explain it. JWH and Radley games yesterday were not really out of character, but even though they are playing for a team that's unpopular amongst neutrals, they still don't get the hate Latrell gets.

Latrell is aggressive and cocky.. people use that as an excuse, but it's not out of the ordinary for backs, especially Centre's (which he was for a long time). Zac Lomax has a lot of the Same qualities but doesn't get the hate for example.

Latrell is largely unchanged from when he played for us. He was always 'cocky and grub'. But things changed halfway through his final year.

Around this time, 2 things happened. 1st he said he wants to stand up against racism like Adam Goodes did. He had been a victim of it himself and he wasn't going to lay down. At the same time Cody walker said he wasn't going to sing the anthem. Latrell through his support behind that.

Almost immediately the media turned on him. It was ruthless. He was the Games premier outside back, but then suddenly he wasn't good enough for origin after one quite game. He went home due to some deaths in the family and now 'he goes walkabout and lacks commitment'. A sponsor loaned him a car, now his up himself for driving a Mercedes. He wanted to go to another club to play fullback because Teddy was blocking his path at the Roosters suddenly 'who the **** does this guy think he is'. He did an nrl ad with an Aboriginal flag on his back, suddenly his 'throwing his aboriginality in our face'. Every minor thing he did was suddenly an offence. It's all a part of a bigger culture war that the media, but especially News ltd, play. A lot of racists definitely pumped it up. But the average footy fan doesn't see that, and sadly a lot of footy fans are easily lead by media agenda's in the game. Look at Gus. A great footy mind with a passion for the game, but he was a huge enemy of News Ltd from the super league days, Gus played a huge role in super league not winning the war, so there was a huge smear campaign against Gould and its worked. People hate Gould despite usually agreeing with him. Media propaganda is a huge thing. So there's a lot of racism driving the smear of Latrell, but people can't see it. Not only that, because they've been conditioned to hate him, they have to defend themselves against the cleary racist agenda driven at him. I'm not saying people booing/hating latrell are racists for from it, but they are being unwittingly influenced by people that definitely are. So when that's pointed out they double down. They double down on the intangibles that aren't racist.

Latrell is a Grub! (Well yea, but not at a higher level to warrant the hate)

Latrell is up himself (dudes actually very humble for a football player, but is confident like a lot of elite players, not enough to warrant the hate)

Latrell is always out of postion (shows a try where latrell no where in defence to prove their point, when shown examples of Tedesco, Gutherson and Edwards doing the same that's different somehow)

He's a flat track bully pumps his chest when beating bad teams (ignores that he has had huge big games, from finals, Origins and GFs and has pumped his chest in those games to).

He hit Manu with a deliberate attack to his head ( it wasn't deliberate. Anyone who thinks that is a moron. It was bad tackle but there have been many similar to it over the years )

I could go on and on.

It's a cycle of racism driving the attacks, and genuinely non-racist people unable to admit they are influenced so continually trying to find ways to legitimise that extreme hate. If he was hated on the same level as Munster or Lomax I'd understand, but the fact that the hatred for him goes beyond the hate for wife beaters, Bigots and genuinely horrible people shows it's complex.”
7 words into this and the **** already screwed up "he's" & "his". I thought someone eager enough to type that ****en much might be more literate. Can I get a TLDR? I have no interest in any redditors opinions lol its twitter for people in therapy who like typing too much.
 

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It's a cycle of racism driving the attacks, and genuinely non-racist people unable to admit they are influenced so continually trying to find ways to legitimise that extreme hate. If he was hated on the same level as Munster or Lomax I'd understand, but the fact that the hatred for him goes beyond the hate for wife beaters, Bigots and genuinely horrible people shows it's complex.”
Ok I read that pile of **** & rather than pick apart every dumb bit like Buzz, Gus, News Ltd & ARL having beef & News smearing Gus and the conclusion is "So there's a lot of racism driving the smear of Latrell, but people can't see it."

Tell me I'm racist because I think someone acts a wanker & brings all the attention on himself then complains about it? **** off you little tosspot redditor. He amps it up, at the end of yesterdays game he was telling the crowd to **** off waving his hands about. All the others you (they) mentioned don't stir the crowd up like Trell.

You can dislike a black fella without being racist.
 

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Ok I read that pile of **** & rather than pick apart every dumb bit like Buzz, Gus, News Ltd & ARL having beef & News smearing Gus and the conclusion is "So there's a lot of racism driving the smear of Latrell, but people can't see it."

Tell me I'm racist because I think someone acts a wanker & brings all the attention on himself then complains about it? **** off you little tosspot redditor. He amps it up, at the end of yesterdays game he was telling the crowd to **** off waving his hands about. All the others you (they) mentioned don't stir the crowd up like Trell.

You can dislike a black fella without being racist.
Lomax does also act like a tool, although I think plays up at the crowd a lot less. Like Latrell I’m also not booing Lomax.

If he smashed one of our players faces and was unapologetic I could see him copping some boos from sharks fans next time we played them. If he complained about it I could see it continuing.
 

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You know when you hear a word a lot and it loses all meaning?
That's boo.
 
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