2017 NRL General Discussion Thread

[HaroldBishop]

I disagree.

James Roberts kicking the Titans player whilst on the ground before the play the ball....Broncos score off the next play.
Try should have been disallowed with a penalty to Titans and Roberts in the bin for 10.

Blatant foul missed by on field refs should be called back.

There were 4 officials who should have seen that, is was blatantly obvious. They should have all been sacked for a week. The problem with using more technology is officials get lazy and rely on it too much rather than making a decision.

 

[Gards]

Only five errors in it's first year? Are they serious? There was probably 5 errors in it's first fortnight but their wacky interpretations nukes the stats

Glad to hear they will try reduce time taken on reviews though - few camera angles, make a decision and get on with it I say

Now just to cut down the time wasted on ****ing kicking conversions, I want 80 mins of actual footy not 65

 

[Mr Ryan]

I don't really get why they ditched the idea of checking 40/20s.

Was that a such big problem in the game?

I know you occasionally get ones where it hard to tell exactly where the ball went out, but most of the time its - was the player inside the 40 or did ball go out after the 20.

What I would of got rid of is anything where there's a bit discretion required from the Video Ref. Thing's that aren't black and white.

So top of the list is obstructions.

I reckon looking at hundreds of replays, and then disallowing a try some days and not others is one of worst things about the modern game.

If its not obvious enough for the 2 on field officials to call it then its play on.

 

[deano the p]

I disagree.

James Roberts kicking the Titans player whilst on the ground before the play the ball....Broncos score off the next play.
Try should have been disallowed with a penalty to Titans and Roberts in the bin for 10.

Blatant foul missed by on field refs should be called back by VR

The issue with it is you get blokes lying down for a reply & the video refs are so horribly inconsistent with what is deemed to be a reportable offence.

 

[Capital_Shark]

I'll bet the guidelines they just put out on the use of the bunker will not be the same come finals, probably not even Origin. Something will happen that the bunker couldn't rule on and every **** will blow up and they'll change it.

I agree with Mr Ryan I got no idea why they won't look at 40/20s. We can go rounds without seeing a 40/20 so its not chewing into game time checking them. If Cam Smith kicks a 40/20 and its not given, that will be the mid-season change I spoke of above.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

I don't really get why they ditched the idea of checking 40/20s.

Was that a such big problem in the game?

I know you occasionally get ones where it hard to tell exactly where the ball went out, but most of the time its - was the player inside the 40 or did ball go out after the 20.

What I would of got rid of is anything where there's a bit discretion required from the Video Ref. Thing's that aren't black and white.

So top of the list is obstructions.

I reckon looking at hundreds of replays, and then disallowing a try some days and not others is one of worst things about the modern game.

If its not obvious enough for the 2 on field officials to call it then its play on.

Video ref should do nothing but touchline/deadball and grounding. Offside should have a digital line. Nothing else should be called by them.

 

[Gards]

Video ref should do nothing but touchline/deadball and grounding. Offside should have a digital line. Nothing else should be called by them.

Lucky Rabs retired or he would start calling Hackett in the lead, gold for Australia!

 

[snowman]

Video ref should do nothing but touchline/deadball and grounding. Offside should have a digital line. Nothing else should be called by them.

dunno about that, i think it needs to have a hand in foul play

just think the grand final, christian welch hitting chad could just have easily gone unpenalised

i would tweak it though as to what they can get involved in, however, should introduce a 5 min sin bin if a team repeatedly milks the system by staying down

 

[HaroldBishop]

I think you have to draw the line somewhere though. A missed strip or knock on could potentially cost a team a game as well. If it's missed, so be it. Yes people will complain but it's the lesser of two evils for mine.

There should definitely be a 5 minute bin though, that's a no brainer so they probbaly won't introduce it. Probably wait until the AFL implements something similar.

 

[Gards]

The NRL's striving for perfection and zero mistakes (hard to blame them) is actually proving to be counter productive in coming up with a system that balances appropriate decision making with the flow and fairness of the game

Every sport has officials that make mistakes or miss things, the NRL are trying to implement something that doesn't exist. A consistent and hasty decision making process should be the aim - they will still make the correct call the majority of the time (pending the dreaded interpretations) and fans and players can move on with the game on the field knowing their team has been given the same decision making treatment as the other even if they disagree with the ultimate call.

Explore a captains challenge as well putting responsibility on the captain and taking some pressure of the officials to anaylse every play leading up to a dead ball scenario.
Can it be abused to get stoppages? Yes but those stoppages would be happening anyway with the current system, at least this would limit the video review to maybe 4 per half (2 per team) and they lose it if wrong

 

[Western Sharkie]

Explore a captains challenge ............... limit the video review to maybe 4 per half (2 per team) and they lose it if wrong

Hmmm where have I seen this before???
Good idea thou!

 

[Gards]

Hmmm where have I seen this before???
Good idea thou!

Yes I know it's a idea that's become a broken record but I still see much value in it for NRL - DRS in cricket takes away much of the climax and celebration of a wicket for instance but when you look at decisions on try's in NRL that happens anyway with the ref nearly always referring it upstairs. CC or player challenge means the ref makes his call on the spot and the opposing team are given a very short timespan to challenge and send it upstairs, I don't want them to hold a ****ing meeting on it

They will treat the challenge as a lottery at times, especially back ends of a game but bad challenges will be lost anyway to the point they run out of em and have to suck it up

 

[HaroldBishop]

Yes I know it's a idea that's become a broken record but I still see much value in it for NRL - DRS in cricket takes away much of the climax and celebration of a wicket for instance but when you look at decisions on try's in NRL that happens anyway with the ref nearly always referring it upstairs. CC or player challenge means the ref makes his call on the spot and the opposing team are given a very short timespan to challenge and send it upstairs, I don't want them to hold a ****ing meeting on it

They will treat the challenge as a lottery at times, especially back ends of a game but bad challenges will be lost anyway to the point they run out of em and have to suck it up

Yeah I'm not a fan of it, it's just another way to slow the game down. For mine the video ref should be for used for touchline/deadball line and grounding of the ball, as BWB said. Anything else is just overkill imo.

There's just too much tinkering with the game from one season to the next.

 

[Gards]

Yes but the point I am making is that the games are being constantly slowed down anyway with the ref nearly always going upstairs for grounding, touchline ect. CC might significantly reduce the amount of times the fans have to sit through those replays

Agree that the tinkering is a tad overkill, it's hard as fans to keep up season to season with the new rules and some players struggle too i think

 

[HaroldBishop]

Yes but the point I am making is that the games are being constantly slowed down anyway with the ref nearly always going upstairs for grounding, touchline ect. CC might significantly reduce the amount of times the fans have to sit through those replays

Agree that the tinkering is a tad overkill, it's hard as fans to keep up season to season with the new rules and some players struggle too i think

If they were to go down the path of CC it should only be a maximum of 1 per half per team imo, maybe even only 1 per match. Should only be used for howlers.

 

[Gards]

If they were to go down the path of CC it should only be a maximum of 1 per half per team imo, maybe even only 1 per match. Should only be used for howlers.

Yea 2 was just an arbitrary number to throw out there - my personal preference is 1 per half per team as well so that the teams know they have to make it really count and save it for a shocker

 

[snowman]

Yeah I'm not a fan of it, it's just another way to slow the game down. For mine the video ref should be for used for touchline/deadball line and grounding of the ball, as BWB said. Anything else is just overkill imo.

There's just too much tinkering with the game from one season to the next.

opens a pandoras box though, you could literally gouge the eyes of a player and the video ref cant do **** about it

 

[HaroldBishop]

opens a pandoras box though, you could literally gouge the eyes of a player and the video ref cant do **** about it

Yeah I know, no system is perfect unfortunately. I'd rather have a faster flowing game tbh rather than everything getting picked up during the game. Stuff like that will be picked up by the review committee anyway.

 

[Tatus]

opens a pandoras box though, you could literally gouge the eyes of a player and the video ref cant do **** about it

Stuff like this should always be acted on when being looked back upon. Should they have a say mid-game? Nope

 

[HaroldBishop]

Lol did they actually listen to these two sing before picking them for the anthem?