2013 NRL General Discussion Thread

[snowman]

Except this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCeqA3qOMFg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Qld > nsw again

Although, credit to Junky. Atleast he didnt run away from the fight

 

[sharks2010]

Qld > nsw again

Although, credit to Junky. Atleast he didnt run away from the fight

He came back for seconds unlike the current stains captain

 

[A.Snowden]

JUST when you thought it couldn't get any worse for the NRL management, the game is now embroiled in a dispute with former indigenous legends over their standing in the game.

Former Tigers stars Larry Corowa and Percy Knight have revealed relationships between the game's powerbrokers and indigenous figures have become toxic.

The Daily Telegraph has obtained copies of recent letters Corowa sent to interim CEO Shane Mattiske and Knight sent to commission chairman John Grant.

They complain the ARL Indigenous Council has become an irrelevant part of the game, rarely consulted on issues, even involving the All Stars game.

The former players also want the NRL to separate indigenous affairs from the multi-cultural One Community charity arm.

"We are going to tell you how it is and not sugar coat things like some people do," said Corowa in his letter to Mattiske. "We do not want to come under the One Community banner nor do we want to be linked with the cultural diversity section.


"We are Aboriginal!!! We are first Australians and we want to make our own decisions."

Relationships began to sour after Corowa, Knight and indigenous leaders met NRL officials recently about the All Stars game and other issues.

"People at the NRL are making decisions without consulting us," Corowa said. "We don't want to be seen as just a marketing or PR gimmick.

"I have been saying all along that we need our own Aboriginal RL unit where we the IRL employ our own, make decisions on our own future, pathways and direction. The Indigenous community, staff and supporters are very angry, upset, and in a nutshell pissed off with the NRL."

Both Corowa and Knight have spoken to senior indigenous players including Johnathan Thurston and Greg Inglis about the situation.

Knight is chairman of the ARL Indigenous Council and a highly respected figure. He is the CEO of a multi-million dollar company and holds masters and honours degrees in science.

"Things are starting to get a little bit toxic with the internal administration at the NRL," Knight said yesterday.

"The indigenous Rugby league Council was established to provide strategic advice. To provide advice in relation to indigenous involvement and participation the council has to be consulted. At the moment that's not happening."

He also wants the indigenous people to have their own standing in the game without being linked to the multicultural One Community.

"The council view is that we're not migrants to this country," he said. "We don't want to be grouped in One Community programs. We need to be our own identity.

"We would rather establish our unit. To provide advice and strategic policy on how indigenous people can be involved. Our council is perceived by non-indigenous people as a token institution. That's got to change. We want to make a proper contribution to the game."

Mattiske last night said he'd meet with Knight in the coming weeks.

"The Commission this year established a clear charter for the council to ensure its place was recognised and the commission sees it as a key strategic priority," Mattiske said.

"Whilst the council is closely aligned with several areas of the game including football operations, marketing and community relations, it still sits separately as a body established by the commission.

"All of the councillors were elected on the basis of the charter that was outlined to them in advance."

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/spor...-nrl-authorities/story-e6frexnr-1226529277483

Basically indigenous people want to seperate themselves from the rest in the game. Don't want to be part of the 'one community'
charity arm of the NRL. I don't know how this would all work to be honest. Not to start a race war on the forum but wanted to just pose the question. Doesn't this just say to everyone they want to seperate themselves from everyone else even further?

 

[bluey]

Where is all this ever going to stop??

 

[Bundy Shark]

I'll say it again for the final time, I'm not fussed on this concept, its promoting sides, initially it was a great one off event but thats how it should have stayed.

 

[slide rule]

yeah I'm not too keen on it, but I'll always watch it when it comes around because I've been starved of football for a couple of months.

Maybe the NRL Allstars should play the Super League All Stars.

And maybe the indigenous team could play a touring Great Britain side or the New Zealanders or something.

 

[Mr Ryan]

yeah I'm not too keen on it, but I'll always watch it when it comes around because I've been starved of football for a couple of months.

Maybe the NRL Allstars should play the Super League All Stars.

And maybe the indigenous team could play a touring Great Britain side or the New Zealanders or something.

I've always said the Indigenous All Stars should play a Pacific Island All Stars team

 

[HaroldBishop]

Quite a good article from Richard Hinds.

Football royalty put bucks before loyalty to crack the codes

He looks so good, that Sonny Quade-Folau. He is the ultimate first choice athlete. The man who has football administrators throwing $100 notes like confetti. The dynamic ball of muscle the Olympic sports can't even dream of getting in a rowboat or on a badminton court. This guy does not play for gold medal bling and peanuts.

Sonny Quade-Folau is the X-factor. The man you think can push your club through the premiership window, or drag it from the floor. Who can attract TV eyeballs and convert those impressionable kids. A gun for hire in the battle of the codes.

But before you book the luxury yacht and prepare to wine and dine him, there are a few things you should know. Things that should be tattooed in capital letters on this ultimate Generation Y athlete, if there was room left. When you play with Sonny Quade-Folau, you play by his rules.

No disrespect to you or your game - rugby league, is it? But Sonny Quade-Folau is a man in demand. He may not be tied down by dated conventions such as multi-year contracts or - can you believe people still use this term? - club loyalty. He is here for a pay time, not for a long time.

Full article http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...oyalty-to-crack-the-codes-20121203-2ar7k.html

 

[SharksMichael]

Don't you see the absurdity in that logic? That the loyalty of the supporters who follow Sonny Quade-Folau from one sport to another is as disposable as his. That the humiliation these inter-code footballing freelancers may inflict upon your code, and your clubs, is greater than the exposure they bring?

Good article. I think this sums it up pretty well.

 

[josh11223344]

The all stars game is ****! Let's do it properly, it is boring and I wouldn't think about turning it on early as it is just an hour of aboriginal dancing etc before the game. Who apart from jiggy is interested in this?

I'd like to see either australia vs the rest of the league or 25 and under vs 26 and over

 

[deano the p]

Yep have got to agree not a fan of it at all.

I haven't even watched the game since the first one played.

 

[CrazyMatt]

Enough? Sure. Quality? Only two at this stage- Gordon and Ryan.

Mead is ahead of the rest... by a lot.

Yeah I get that.....but I asked who would you replace?

 

[deano the p]

Yeah I get that.....but I asked who would you replace?

Below are a few answers to your question.

Basically we would replace anyone bar Gordon and Ryan. If we could swap one of the Wright boys, Stapo or Feki for him we would be at a massive advantage.

Jono wright

Ben Pomeroy

Enough? Sure. Quality? Only two at this stage- Gordon and Ryan.

Mead is ahead of the rest... by a lot.

mead would be an instant hit in our backline

id even move ryan to the centres if we got him. would be a great piece of business

 

[Thresher]

I don't like the them versus us side to the Indigenous All Stars game. I couldn't see the All Stars players liking the concept too much apart from each player's increased profile and thus marketability.

I'd prefer to see the aboriginal knock out competition get a whole lot of press and coverage. Get the commentators to do a bit of research so they know the names of the teams, the players and a bit of history. It's entertaining footy and with a bit of hype I reckon they'd pull some good TV audiences on a Saturday arvo.

It'd also increase the pressure on the players and thus give talent scouts a good chance to see how these guys perform in the limelight. The atmosphere for the knock out comp is already there and has plenty of character. Pull in a few big name acts like Yothu Yindi and play the finals at a decent stadium .. I'd go along.

 

[Gil]

If there is going to be winging over the All Stars game from both sides, then get ride of it.

Problem solved.

I wouldn't miss it.

 

[Tank]

I hate watching it because I always fear we will cop a bad injury. Imagine losing Gal for 12 weeks due to this nonsense!

 

[fitz]

Reminds me of Harlem Globe Trotters v The Generals.

Not my thing but good luck to those who enjoy it as a spectacle.

I cringe at the possibility of players getting injured.

 

[A.Snowden]

I enjoyed the concept the first time round. Now it's just a **** game. Boring game with a very boring lead up. Pre game stuff puts you to sleep. Piss it off. It only splits the white v black (and a ginger) further apart. And adds to injury tolls and player burn outs.

 

[snowman]

Reminds me of Harlem Globe Trotters v The Generals.

Not my thing but good luck to those who enjoy it as a spectacle.

I cringe at the possibility of players getting injured.

boston generals?

my dad took me to that in 1994, best spectacle i have ever been too!

 

[fitz]

Washington Generals... the long-serving, habitually inept foils for the Globetrotters.