Traditional suburban grounds - What future for Remondis Stadium?

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This worries me. I'd hate to see Shark Park wasted and not play our home games there.
How does this affect our development and future plans?

www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/state-gov...f-major-stadiums/story-fndujljl-1226986971004

State government to stop funding suburban football grounds in favour of major stadiums

THE state government has stamped a death notice on one of Sydney’s favourite Sunday afternoon activities — watching NRL games at traditional old suburban grounds.
The days of getting rugged up on weekend afternoons to enjoy a pie and beer on the hill at the famous footy ovals are soon to be gone under plans to raise our sporting facilities to an international level.
Sports Minister Stuart Ayres said the government would no longer invest in the district venues where rugby league has been played for more than a century. Instead, money would be poured into major upgrades at Allianz and ANZ stadiums, including a *retractable roof over the Homebush Olympic venue.

Old favourites such as Leichhardt Oval, Shark Park, Brookvale and Kogarah will either be left to rot or become training facilities and multi-purpose venues for wider use, similar to Redfern Oval and Belmore Sports Ground.

Mr Ayres insisted all future government spending would be restricted to the bigger *facilities, ANZ and Allianz, plus a third, as yet undetermined, venue in Sydney’s west.
He said nine Sydney NRL clubs can only survive in such a cramped market by generating more revenue from higher memberships and use of the bigger venues.

“My long-term view ... is that we have to make the transition from suburban grounds to major stadium facilities,” Mr Ayres said.
“Sport in NSW will not compete *nationally or internationally if we restrict ourselves to suburban facilities.
“If you’re an NRL club driving towards 20,000 to 25,000 members, the suburban ground will not service your membership and won’t have enough seats to sell to other customers as well.”
Pressed about losing old favourites such as Leichhardt Oval, the minister stood firm.
“Absolutely it’s special and important to that community,” he said. “But its role as a facility to play national sport in is limited to maybe one or two events a year.
“I don’t see it as part of our core strategy in NSW. It offers some nostalgia but not as a *financially viable sports base.

“The biggest impact on Sydney crowds is the poor state of facilities and the *accessibility of these facilities.
“People have been turning away from small suburban grounds ... because they don’t offer the experience you get at home watching Channel Nine or Foxtel.
“So they don’t go as frequently as they would if they were offered a better product. If we offer good quality facilities they will turn up.”
Mr Ayres is a fanatical Panthers fan, whose own home ground could be in the firing line under the new policy.
“I love watching the Panthers at home,” he said, “But if it’s the 14th of July and you’re sitting up on the northern hill on a Monday night, it’s pretty cold and the experience isn’t all that hospitable.”
The future of the Penrith facility will be the centre of *interesting manoeuvring in coming months, with the minister caught in a tough situation. He is the local member for Penrith and has formed a tight relationship with influential Panthers boss Phil Gould, who is furiously lobbying for the third stadium to be built on the site of their current home ground.
This is despite pressure on the government to do the more obvious redevelopment of Parramatta Stadium, home to the Eels and the Western Sydney Wanderers, who boast massive supporter bases.
Already, $29 million of federal and state money has been committed to Parramatta, which will only increase the venue by 4000 seats and *improve training facilities.
“Sport has to pay its own way in the NSW budget,” Mr Ayres said, adding that he was confident Sydney would eventually overtake Melbourne as the nation’s sporting capital.
 
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Owning our own home ground would we be really getting that much funding compared to the others??

Not sure, but I'm sure we received government funding to improve the grounds when we put up the new stands/ seating in the past and we owned the ground back then too.
If we stay, we do it alone now with no prospects of any future government funding which includes improvements, maintenance etc.


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Grounds like brookie and parramatta etc are owned by local governments. Remondis is owned by the club, the funding it gets is via applications for grants etc.

The nrl would be silly to get rid of suburban grounds when they still cant crack 25k for a normal average
 
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Grounds like brookie and parramatta etc are owned by local governments. Remondis is owned by the club, the funding it gets is via applications for grants etc.

The nrl would be silly to get rid of suburban grounds when they still cant crack 25k for a normal average

Most is from the Feds from what i remember, Morrision will go on a spending spree in the area before the next election buying votes.
 
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Not sure, but I'm sure we received government funding to improve the grounds when we put up the new stands/ seating in the past and we owned the ground back then too.
If we stay, we do it alone now with no prospects of any future government funding from this LNP State Government which includes improvements, maintenance etc.


http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport...ill-be-a-mistake/story-fniabjcr-1226987010146

Thought I would fix this for you.

Now Ayres is representing of the electorate of Penrith so you people down that way should really be asking what his real motives are above saving some $$$
 

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Just wait for change of governments (State and Fed). The rhetoric changes. The fact they are all useless doesn't though
 

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This annoys. Just because government built Stadium Australia for a one off athletics meet and have to maintain it if doesn't get used/sponsored (because it's crap for viewing rectangular field sports) . Shouldn't mean NRL supporters that love watching their game in a suburban atmosphere instead, should suffer.

(this was part of my rant to the NRL on another thread)
 

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If our ground is up to standards after developments, and it's self funded. Will we be made to play at ANZ or can we say no and play at our home ground. This move by Gus and Co is surly another nail is the coffin Sydney clubs.
Maybe this is a way of merging Sydney clubs.
 

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this story comes out every 12 months.

They can't get spectators to the big grounds now, so what will change.

The cost of tickets.
Parking.
Public transport.
Over priced food and drinks.
Fans won't travel.

It will never work.

The big winner will be Pay TV.........................so who is really pushing this. ?????
 

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I doubt that we would be considered for any government funding in the near future - Shark Park doesn't need any urgent upgrades - so this news doesn't really affect us anyway.

But, I can see, in theory, where the NRL are coming from in this.

Say 2 Sydney clubs are playing each other and the SFS is both teams "home" ground.

Both teams have around 20000 members.

Both teams are encouraged to promote the match, even though 1 team is technically the "away" team.

Most of the members from both teams turn up - crowd of 35000-40000 on beautiful Sunday arvo at the SFS.

In reality, I think the NRL aren't at this point yet. But in the next 5-10 years who knows.
 

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I think this is perhaps the biggest challenge - and the biggest opportunity - facing us in the medium to long term.

I don't think the NRL will force us to move but if the 'stadium' isn't up to scratch then we will get left behind.
 

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I believe we can be the Kardinia Park (Geelong) of the NRL. They are the only AFL Club that does not play out of the MCG or Etihad Stadium.
 

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I believe we can be the Kardinia Park (Geelong) of the NRL. They are the only AFL Club that does not play out of the MCG or Etihad Stadium.

Yep this is my hope too. And it means Geelong are near impossible to beat at home. But even they are forced to play some games at the MCG.

They've done huge renovations at Kardinia over the last decade or so and made it a quality ground. I'm not sure how much of that was govt funded but I suspect quote a lot.
 

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Grounds like brookie and parramatta etc are owned by local governments. Remondis is owned by the club, the funding it gets is via applications for grants etc.

The nrl would be silly to get rid of suburban grounds when they still cant crack 25k for a normal average
This is so true for the NRL. I am one of the majority that wishes to see the suburban ground stay, including Brookie, Leichardt, Kogarah and so on. Having said that, it is not hard to understand why State governments don't want to pour millions into small league grounds when the Swans, big union games, soccer all pack out the major stadiums. There is no bang for your buck spending spending on suburban grounds.

IMO, league needs to accept we are going to get small crowds because our game is the perfect TV game. Those who go are the rusted ons, and a mostly full suburban stadium is better than a microscopic crowd at ANZ/Telstra (whatever it is called these days). The game doesn't need five star comfort at the suburban grounds. People who go to rugby league matches are there to watch the football, not get a foot rub while sipping champagne.
 

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This is so true for the NRL. I am one of the majority that wishes to see the suburban ground stay, including Brookie, Leichardt, Kogarah and so on. Having said that, it is not hard to understand why State governments don't want to pour millions into small league grounds when the Swans, big union games, soccer all pack out the major stadiums. There is no bang for your buck spending spending on suburban grounds.

IMO, league needs to accept we are going to get small crowds because our game is the perfect TV game. Those who go are the rusted ons, and a mostly full suburban stadium is better than a microscopic crowd at ANZ/Telstra (whatever it is called these days). The game doesn't need five star comfort at the suburban grounds. People who go to rugby league matches are there to watch the football, not get a foot rub while sipping champagne.

Foot rub would be nice though.....
 
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I said today we looked close to capacity save for a few empty seats. We were about 5000 off capacity.

17-18k at a 90-100,000 capacity stadium looks like an empty stadium.
 
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I said today we looked close to capacity save for a few empty seats. We were about 5000 off capacity.

17-18k at a 90-100,000 capacity stadium looks like an empty stadium.

I still want to know why those block of seats are still empty in the Peter Burns stand at every home game.
 
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