Official Todd Carney

[Sharky14]

This is still a delicate topic so ill be as respectful to todd as I can.

Not long ago I pretty much straight out trashed Todd saying he had gone off the rails and was on the nose of the club. You boys slammed me for talking **** about Toddy. I also said Benji Marshall was his replacement. Todd spoke to me directly and asked me "why are you spreading rumours about me?" The conversation continued and I posted it on my twitter account to show that Todd was a good bloke and had attacked the rumour head first- earnt my respect. However, it didnt change what I'd heard. Sure enough yesterday I spoke to people at the club to find that Todd had 2 previous notices of behavior breach- which I wont be going into details of. Meaning Todd has straight up lied to me- respect lost.

Last time I do a favour for a player and in all honesty, Todd Carney is not a nice person, nor is he a club player. He worries about himself and himself only. He has a problem and I am going to place alot of the blame on the club here, they provided no assistance to him whatsoever, they simply threatened his career. Todds sacking couldnt be avoided and it could of been alot worse. We have been without Todd Carney before and can do it again.

Our future is in this weekends #6 and out u20s #1 we will have our time at the top. Todd couldnt provide that with his mindset and behavior. By all means keep sending him messages of support cause God knows he needs it, but this club is better off without him.

Thats my vent/information/piece for this evening.
Feel free to pm me if you wish to talk further, or reply on this and let a free for all insue.

 

[DANGA HATCH]

Lose Lose situation for the Sharks, we were going to get attacked no matter what we did.

Best option in retrospect would have been suspending him until game 6 next year and giving him a chance to make amends - he'd been doing a lot of community work before his last stuff up, no one mentions that

Problem is mate he needs to be playing footy, not sitting on the sidelines. That is the problem for these blokes. That's all they have.

 

[egg]

SOURCE : NEWS.COM


Cronulla Sharks and Blues captain Paul Gallen backs the decision to let Todd Carney go

38 minutes ago July 01, 2014 6:32PM

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INFLUENTIAL NSW State of Origin captain Paul Gallen says Cronulla’s decision to sack Todd Carney was “harsh” but admitted it was time for his former teammate to move on.

Gallen revealed his concerns over Carney’s mental wellbeing, since his $3 million contract was terminated on Sunday after a lewd photo went viral showing the star player attempting to urinate in his own mouth.

The Blues and Sharks stalwart also hit out at Carney’s supposed friend Mick Robinson, who admitted taking the photo at the urinal of Cronulla nightspot Northies, and led to Carney being axed from his third NRL club.

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Paul Gallen said the club was left with little choice but to sack Todd Carney.


As Gallen gathered with the NSW side to prepare for State of Origin III at Brisbane’s Suncorp Stadium next Wednesday, Gallen said: “It’s a prank. I know what it is. Todd did it and (Robinson) snapped a photo of him.

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“It’s probably illegal to snap a picture of someone in a toilet. It was a silly thing to do. He’s let himself down and he knows that.

“To be sacked over that, I think is harsh but I’m not privileged to all the other information and other warnings he’s had.

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“If that was the sole incident then that would be very harsh. But I don’t know what else has gone on.”

The NRL said it was unlikely to register another contract for Carney, meaning his elite rugby league career in Australia is over.

Matty Johns on Todd Carney 1:20

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Matty Johns says the NRL's perennial bad boy, isn't the Todd Carney he knows.

As revealed in The Daily Telegraph, Carney’s sole option may lie with European rugby union.

Gallen refused to take a political line and supported Carney despite widespread condemnation of the fallen star’s actions.

“I’ve got a lot of loyalty towards Todd but also a lot of loyalty towards the club,” Gallen said.

“The club was left with little choice and the NRL would have come over the top anyway.

“The main thing is Todd’s welfare and making sure he gets on with the rest of his life. The world’s going to move on and Todd has to as well.

Paul Gallen on his way to visit Todd Carney at his home on Monday. Picture: Adam Taylor

Paul Gallen on his way to visit Todd Carney at his home on Monday. Picture: Adam Taylor Source: News Corp Australia

“No matter what people think of him — and people judge him by what’s happened in the past — he’s a really, really good person. He’s got a kind heart, he’s really giving and unfortunately he’s made a few bad choices.

“I’ll back him every day of the week as far as being a good person. Losing a $3 million contract and possibly his career, of course he’s putting on a brave face. If he was an imbecile of a person, he wouldn’t have that support.”

Cronulla CEO Steve Noyce on Todd Carney, Peter Sharp 4:29


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Cronulla CEO Steve Noyce fronts the media as fallout from the Todd Carney incident and the resignation of coach Peter Sharp continues to rock the club.

NSW Origin second-rower Boyd Cordner is a close mate of Carney’s from their playing days together at the Sydney Roosters.

Cordner urged the NRL to rethink their decision to ban Carney.

“I really do,” Cordner said. “I truly believe he should still be part of the NRL.

“And I’m sure there will be a lot of clubs out there willing to sign him, the talent he is and the way he changes the game when he’s on the field.

“I will stick by Todd whatever he does. My personal opinion was that it (the decision) was a bit harsh for something so silly and stupid.

“He didn’t hurt anyone, he didn’t break any laws. I spoke to him when it happened and again today. He is obviously going through a tough time. He won’t let this beat him.”
Originally published as It was time for Todd to go — Gallen

 

[evertonshark]

Well written and truth-nerve hitting article. NRLs rep does stink and the entire code needs to change if it ever wants to be more popular than the other codes. Until then it will continue to be left in the dust

Doesn't afl have it's fair share of bad boys too ? Yet league is considered the thugs game.

 

[evertonshark]

Just flicking channels and came across the back page (james hooper). Changed the channel quickly so I didn't smash the tv, I can only imagine what that cockhead will be saying about it in that ****ing smug voice of his.

 

[vicsharkfan]

I record it so I can fast forward through his dribble..

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

Just flicking channels and came across the back page (james hooper). Changed the channel quickly so I didn't smash the tv, I can only imagine what that cockhead will be saying about it in that ****ing smug voice of his.

Well if he isnt applauding the club he is an absolute **** head

 

[dylan the villian]

Doesn't afl have it's fair share of bad boys too ? Yet league is considered the thugs game.

Not disputing they have their fair share of bad eggs.

But which code has the better image? And what does image and reputation lead to over an entire code? $$$

AFL is light years ahead of NRL in regards to growth image and national reputation.

Sad to say but nrls image is mud, has been for many years and won't shift for some time yet it seems

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

In nsw the afl gets half the attention of league. Papers have dedicated league ''reporters''.

These ****s hunt for **** stories. I remember wilson writing an article ( a few weeks after carneys dui at roosters ) and it was an article about todd and a mate walking home at 3am "obviously drunk". How the **** is that even worth opening your laptop for.

Meanwhile you have adam goodes promoting racism so hard that its becoming racist

 

[Weaponhead]

Not disputing they have their fair share of bad eggs.

But which code has the better image? And what does image and reputation lead to over an entire code? $$$

AFL is light years ahead of NRL in regards to growth image and national reputation.

Sad to say but nrls image is mud, has been for many years and won't shift for some time yet it seems

AFL have a squeaky clean image because of a sycophantic media who publish what they are told. They are spin masters and have the Melbourne chip on the shoulder so bag league constantly. Many league players are idiots as are many AFL players.

A North Melbourne player was charged with rape today and can still play yet the media is all over Carney's antics.

 

[dylan the villian]

AFL have a squeaky clean image because of a sycophantic media who publish what they are told. They are spin masters and have the Melbourne chip on the shoulder so bag league constantly. Many league players are idiots as are many AFL players.

A North Melbourne player was charged with rape today and can still play yet the media is all over Carney's antics.

Actually they are blowing up about the roos player in AFL states,

Nice conspiracy theory about a Melbourne chip on the shoulder. But no, different states get different coverage. League hardly gets a mention in AFL states media outlets unless it is a big Blow up.

AFL have a squeaky clean image because they can run a professional operation, take the NRL goggles off and see that we as a league are hopeless.

 

[Thresher]

The Melbourne media are kinder to AFL than the Sydney media are to NRL.

All walks of life are are into the AFL in Melbourne, whereas (like someone said before ... Everton I think) Rugby League is considered a dumb thug game to some locals in Sydney - there are sections of the community that consider themselves above it. (wankers mostly)


Melbourne people don't know that much about Rugby League in general, they find it interesting but it doesn't really hold their attention.

They really can't be bothered gossiping about it because to them it's a bit like A League Soccer or Basketball or something. I still have to constantly explain the difference between Union and League, they call all of it Rugby.

 

[fitz]

The AFL has a media unit larger than any newsroom in the country as they see the management of their brand, public image and reputation far more important than the game itself.

On the other hand, the NRL and the ARL seem to think that they're in the sports industry and not the media and entertainment industry.

Fundamental tactical flaw.

 

[Thresher]

I feel like puking when I see the over-glamourised BOOM BOOM promos for Rugby League.

I think they underestimate the intelligence of their supporter base, it seems condescending.

Delayed, edited broadcast doesn't help much either.

 

[BlackWhiteBlue]

I feel like puking when I see the over-glamourised BOOM BOOM promos for Rugby League.

I think they underestimate the intelligence of their supporter base, it seems condescending.

Delayed, edited broadcast doesn't help much either.

Last bit i agree completely. The nrl shoulda made a stand regarding the delayed telecast

 

[Thresher]

Last bit i agree completely. The nrl shoulda made a stand regarding the delayed telecast

They really should give more respect to the punters. I know that it's ratings etc but without the fans it ain't worth ****.

When I was a kid living in the country, the Sunday arvo footy broadcast was what everyone planned the day around.

I don't have Fox but now I'll listen to a game on digital radio and not bother to watch the Sunday broadcast on TV.

 

[Steve Kneen]

It was a good article. My partner of ten years was a mad league fan when I met her and I can hardly get her to watch a game anymore, she wants to support the swans.

Whilst I'm very unhappy about the Carney sacking, she thinks totally the opposite. As a game we have a massive image problem, that cannot be denied. With the vast array of social media platforms it magnifies everything out of proportion and this problem is not going to go away.

You are correct, and in fact there is also a problem with the "fans" or people who purport to be 'fans' of the game of rugby league.

You only have to look at this page https://www.facebook.com/TheFull80 a page of heroes that are happy that they received notoriety for making the Carney image go viral, or the page of the maggot that allegedly originally tweeted the image https://twitter.com/MarkRaider1

If the players in the game have a problem with behaviour then there are a lot of alleged 'fans' out there that equally have a problem and will always be a problem for the game of rugby league.

Gorden Tallis summed it up the best when he said that Todd Carney needs to surround himself with people that are actually his friends, not the hangers-on and acquaintances or morons that obviously didn't have Todd's best interests at heart. Carney needs to attempt to pick up the pieces and learn from this mistake, for if he doesn't he never will. This incident is his fault for putting himself in the compromising position to be scapegoated. I truly believe he didn't know the photograph was taken, because as he said "he felt ill" when he found out, like that sick sinking feeling you get when you're in a plane and the plane drops a considerable distance all of a sudden. I do believe he was shocked that someone not only had taken the picture but then distributed it. I blame Carney for putting himself in the position he did, it is a moronic act with the prank he performed and tossing his career away with the Sharks, because a player of his ability is nearly impossible to replace, just as Greg Bird was and still is. It's just a shame that he doesn't realise that the people he hangs around with or hung around with are maggots & imbeciles, for if they weren't this would not have even been heard about. Todd needs to learn in life what is and isn't appropriate behaviour, I don't believe he has mental issues he just needs to grow up and act his age & reassess who his friends are and hangs around with. I still believe his sacking is excessive. (He may have pissed into the air, but he didn't authorise anyone using the image or putting it in the public for viewing because he didn't even know the maggot Mick Robinson had taken the photograph.)

I believe the ASADA investigation has obviously been a factor in regard to the way it has affected the club, and the club has been quite directionless without Flanagan as coach. (17 months later and still no finalisation)

The club was in decay for a considerable amount of time on many different levels, and that includes the club being run by people that should never have been running the club, and being without a CEO for a very long time and poor governance and structures.

There have been too many disappointing things happen to this club over the years to list.


Getting rid of John Lang
Letting David Peachey go
Letting Tawera Nikau go
Tevita Latu
Brett Seymour
Albert Kelly
Greg Bird
Getting rid of Kimmorley
Letting Tyrone Peachey go
Todd Carney

They are only a few of the disappointments, the list goes on.

Gut wrenching.

 

[Bundy Shark]

You are correct, and in fact there is also a problem with the "fans" or people who purport to be 'fans' of the game of rugby league.

You only have to look at this page https://www.facebook.com/TheFull80 a page of heroes that are happy that they received notoriety for making the Carney image go viral, or the page of the maggot that allegedly originally tweeted the image https://twitter.com/MarkRaider1

If the players in the game have a problem with behaviour then there are a lot of alleged 'fans' out there that equally have a problem and will always be a problem for the game of rugby league.

Gorden Tallis summed it up the best when he said that Todd Carney needs to surround himself with people that are actually his friends, not the hangers-on and acquaintances or morons that obviously didn't have Todd's best interests at heart. Carney needs to attempt to pick up the pieces and learn from this mistake, for if he doesn't he never will. This incident is his fault for putting himself in the compromising position to be scapegoated. I truly believe he didn't know the photograph was taken, because as he said "he felt ill" when he found out, like that sick sinking feeling you get when you're in a plane and the plane drops a considerable distance all of a sudden. I do believe he was shocked that someone not only had taken the picture but then distributed it. I blame Carney for putting himself in the position he did, it is a moronic act with the prank he performed and tossing his career away with the Sharks, because a player of his ability is nearly impossible to replace, just as Greg Bird was and still is. It's just a shame that he doesn't realise that the people he hangs around with or hung around with are maggots & imbeciles, for if they weren't this would not have even been heard about. Todd needs to learn in life what is and isn't appropriate behaviour, I don't believe he has mental issues he just needs to grow up and act his age & reassess who his friends are and hangs around with. I still believe his sacking is excessive. (He may have pissed into the air, but he didn't authorise anyone using the image or putting it in the public for viewing because he didn't even know the maggot Mick Robinson had taken the photograph.)

I believe the ASADA investigation has obviously been a factor in regard to the way it has affected the club, and the club has been quite directionless without Flanagan as coach. (17 months later and still no finalisation)

The club was in decay for a considerable amount of time on many different levels, and that includes the club being run by people that should never have been running the club, and being without a CEO for a very long time and poor governance and structures.

There have been too many disappointing things happen to this club over the years to list.


Getting rid of John Lang
Letting David Peachey go
Letting Tawera Nikau go
Tevita Latu
Brett Seymour
Albert Kelly
Greg Bird
Getting rid of Kimmorley
Letting Tyrone Peachey go
Todd Carney

They are only a few of the disappointments, the list goes on.

Gut wrenching.

The above all are Steve but I think Langy chose to end his time with us didn't he?

Some of the above also are our/the clubs doing like D Peachey & Kimmorley but I think young Peach went for the cash & the others were things that could have happened at any other club, in fact AK had got himself into strife before & after he came to Cronulla, same with Latu, we aren't the only club that has issues, we just seemed to have had a few issues that have gone back to back.

 

[Thresher]

I felt that our club lost a lot of its goodness when we signed Chris Anderson. We lost patience and went for the quick fix.

 

[hitman124]

I hope Todd is preparing a damages lawsuit against this scumbag.