State of Origin 2022

[bort]

Speaking of rule changes, I'd like one to occur. I think at the end of the game, if the ref calls held before the buzzer then the ball should get played. It's happens all the time now in origin/big games when it's close they just hold down on that tackle so time runs out. As fans, we are robbed of that last play after the siren that is so damn exciting.

If last night finished on a right shift and a try in the corner against a retreating defence, or an amazing try saving tackle it would have been amazing theatre.

Not that it would have helped but probably 2 professional fouls that could have been bins in that set.

Instead of allow that last play imagine if ref blew the whistle for a penalty at the end there and said 'right you're 10 in the bin, professional foul, you over there, your 10 in the bin professional foul two tackles ago I played advantage. James your tap'.

Make for a really exciting and not undeserved last attempt.
Obviously not part of how the game is played currently but I don't think it'd be unfair for a team to get some benefit from that kind of end of game play from opposition.

Not how it works though and ref did end up allowing them to just choke out that last play so well done Qld.

Here's a question - if there was a 2 point margin do we think any of those tackles in last set would have been penalties?
My answer is I think they probably would have been which suggests they still should have been - in saying that I think the Queenslanders would have got off quicker so as to not give away a penalty goal, which suggests they knew they were penalties too...

 

[Bundy Shark]

Lots of posts in here but if we are all honest, QLD we’re plain & simple, better than us on the night.
On to game 2.

 

[Proud Shark]

Not that it would have helped but probably 2 professional fouls that could have been bins in that set.

Instead of allow that last play imagine if ref blew the whistle for a penalty at the end there and said 'right you're 10 in the bin, professional foul, you over there, your 10 in the bin professional foul two tackles ago I played advantage. James your tap'.

Make for a really exciting and not undeserved last attempt.
Obviously not part of how the game is played currently but I don't think it'd be unfair for a team to get some benefit from that kind of end of game play from opposition.

Not how it works though and ref did end up allowing them to just choke out that last play so well done Qld.

Here's a question - if there was a 2 point margin do we think any of those tackles in last set would have been penalties?
My answer is I think they probably would have been which suggests they still should have been - in saying that I think the Queenslanders would have got off quicker so as to not give away a penalty goal, which suggests they knew they were penalties too...

Or even not for 10 in the bin, just out for the set so it doesn't decide golden point. I don't know the best answer, but the way close game are closed out atm in the nrl isn't great for fans.

 

[bort]

Or even not for 10 in the bin, just out for the set so it doesn't decide golden point. I don't know the best answer, but the way close game are closed out atm in the nrl isn't great for fans.

haha really tweaking **** to have players have to sit out a set!

I get what you mean but at the same time do the crime do the time.

 

[Wiz]

Now the whole of NSW knows what it's like to be a Sharks supporter.

1. Show some promise in first 15mins
2. Lose all sense of direction when opposition change their strategy or tempo.
3. Provide some false hope late in the game to just to make you watch to the end but still lose.
4. Get owned by Munster and Grant.
5. Make you focus on the ref for bad calls that cost you the game.

You forgot to add.

6. hype of a “modern” coach

 

[Wiz]

I hope Canterbury appoints him just for the lols.

I actually think they will. You would think they’d announce it by now if it wasn’t the NSW coach

 

[Proud Shark]

haha really tweaking **** to have players have to sit out a set!

I get what you mean but at the same time do the crime do the time.

Haha fair. Like I said, I don't know the best answer, but something has to change.

 

[Gards]

Paulo was underutilised IMO

Just 5 runs in his first stint of 30 mins. Needed to be brought back on in the last 10 minutes when NSW were chasing the game

Hass & Yeo were the standout forwards for NSW

Martin made 50 tackles in the second row - is that correct ? Missed a bunch too, far out he got some traffic down his way

 

[HaroldBishop]

Paulo was underutilised IMO

Just 5 runs in his first stint of 30 mins. Needed to be brought back on in the last 10 minutes when NSW were chasing the game

Hass & Yeo were the standout forwards for NSW

Martin made 50 tackles in the second row - is that correct ? Missed a bunch too, far out he got some traffic down his way

Can't believe PS thinks he's only worth $300k

 

[Proud Shark]

Can't believe PS thinks he's only worth $300k

Once Bort signs Brooks, Dave Fifita and Jake Turbo on deals where they pay us, we will be able to afford his 1.3m.

 

[Gards]

Even if Hass gets overpaid at least he performs - if you want one of the best forwards in the game you cough up the coin, if you want 'value' or a cheapie you look elsewhere.

Having said that It's the expensive players that phone it in every other week or spend alot of time on the sideline that are truly bad value and ruin your squad not players like Hass who help you win games - you just need to be astute with how you manage your list and cap around him.

 

[BurgoShark]

Not that it would have helped but probably 2 professional fouls that could have been bins in that set.

Instead of allow that last play imagine if ref blew the whistle for a penalty at the end there and said 'right you're 10 in the bin, professional foul, you over there, your 10 in the bin professional foul two tackles ago I played advantage. James your tap'.

Make for a really exciting and not undeserved last attempt.
Obviously not part of how the game is played currently but I don't think it'd be unfair for a team to get some benefit from that kind of end of game play from opposition.

Not how it works though and ref did end up allowing them to just choke out that last play so well done Qld.

Here's a question - if there was a 2 point margin do we think any of those tackles in last set would have been penalties?
My answer is I think they probably would have been which suggests they still should have been - in saying that I think the Queenslanders would have got off quicker so as to not give away a penalty goal, which suggests they knew they were penalties too...

If you are giving penalties for those, we'll have one for the "just a touch" on DCE's face (magic round rules) and we'll have a Blue in the bin for the professional foul on Munster after his break. We'll take the 2 on each of those, you can have your penalty and one play at the death and we'll still win by 4 even if you score under the posts

 

[bort]

Paulo was underutilised IMO

Just 5 runs in his first stint of 30 mins. Needed to be brought back on in the last 10 minutes when NSW were chasing the game

Hass & Yeo were the standout forwards for NSW

Martin made 50 tackles in the second row - is that correct ? Missed a bunch too, far out he got some traffic down his way

The idea was that his offloading would be more impactful off the bench.

The reality was his big thicc arse coming on around same time Qld were running Grant, Cotter and Carrigan actually meant the bigger body was less valuable compared to their increased speed.

RCG wouldn't really provide any 'impact' off the bench compared to him just starting but maybe would have lined up better against a Carrigan than Paulo.

For me I think we could tweak how we used props but keep same ones, I think I start Angus Crichton (couldn't believe he was left out) and either Murray or Koloamatangi.
Frizell could come back into consideration also if he can play a good game this week against the Panthers... if Martin plays he definitely wouldn't want to get outplayed by Friz this week.

 

[bort]

If you are giving penalties for all of those, we'll have one for the "just a touch" on DCE's face (magic round rules) and we'll have a Blue in the bin for the professional foul on Munster after his break. We'll take the 2 on each of those, you can have your penalty at the death and we'll still win by 4 even if you score

That was definitely an interesting interpretation. Bunker sounded salty to have to rule on that.
I am fine for the NRL to be happy to interpret a thumb brushing a cheek as not 'a high tackle' but an interesting setting for it to come up and an interpretation that has fluctuated quite a bit in recent years.
Plenty of tackles more impactful than that don't get penalties every week in NRL currently and bunker can always interject on 'reportable' foul play.

I though on the Munster break was very close to being one but probably got off just in time. Obviously ref felt same way about the ones at the end...

We can't change other the interpretations otherwise I'm taking the DCE one off you haha

 

[BurgoShark]

That was definitely an interesting interpretation. Bunker sounded salty to have to rule on that.
I am fine for the NRL to be happy to interpret a thumb brushing a cheek as not 'a high tackle' but an interesting setting for it to come up and an interpretation that has fluctuated quite a bit in recent years.
Plenty of tackles more impactful than that don't get penalties every week in NRL currently and bunker can always interject on 'reportable' foul play.

I though on the Munster break was very close to being one but probably got off just in time. Obviously ref felt same way about the ones at the end...

We can't change other the interpretations otherwise I'm taking the DCE one off you haha

Yeah - I reckon NRL both are a sin bin. Imo the Ref/NRL made a decision to let more go in origin - which we are used to. Contact with the kickers was probably more lax than NRL too.

DCE one I would have laughed my ass off if they actually gave it. Just shows that the attempt to define "any contact with the head" as being illegal is silly.

 

[bort]

Yeah - I reckon NRL both are a sin bin. Imo the Ref/NRL made a decision to let more go in origin.

DCE one I would have laughed my ass off if they actually gave it. Just shows that the attempt to define "any contact with the head" as being illegal is silly.

Probably most of the time in NRL yeah

Whoever was in the bunker just could not bring themselves to say there was "just a touch which constitutes a high tackle".

And quite a few people reckon the Crichton tackle was a sin bin... not even in NRL should that be a sin bin, barely went past horizontal (enough for penalty yes) and nowhere near landing on his head.

 

[Sparkles]

It'd be close for a big part of the game and we'll likely get ahead by 8 at some point. Then QLD will finish over the top of us and win by 8.
Or am I just reliving a decade of Origina trauma. Not sure.

Needed the 8 to be a 6...

 

[HaroldBishop]

Needed the 8 to be a 6...

Wasn't NSW ahead by 4?

 

[MrDravid]

The idea was that his offloading would be more impactful off the bench.

Did he even throw an offload? I remember him throwing a couple of ordinary passes that hit the deck.

Freddie probably told him to put away the offload and be a ball playing forward.

 

[Milkshark]

Everyone laughed at me when I said qld would win yesterday.