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i really think we need to go to market. For me
Someone like Brad Parker would be sufficient. Great defender and does enough with the ball. Won’t cost a lot either.
Don’t need a superstar just someone who can play a consistent role in the team.

Or try nab Peter Hiku or Jesse Arthurs.
Brad Parker? Sorry but with all due respect I'd take any of our internal options before going to market for Brad ****ing Parker. That would be like going to market to replace Moylan with Jeff Robson.
 

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It was funny last week as well when people were saying that Sifa should have come in to help Moylan out on a 1 on 1 tackle….he can’t win, he comes in and the player passes it to Sifas man and they score….then people will say that he needs to trust his inside man….
Most tries through the wide three happen due to either good play (offence) or misread (defence) further in than the point of the try.

There are mistakes that get made or tackles that get missed and there always will be. Round 1 in particular was a shambles. But well worked and executed plays attacking the edges have always been a thing for a reason - they make spaces to score through.
 

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I get what you are saying, but my point is that Moylan was 1 on 1 last week and just got palmed off and run straight through.

It was implied Sifa had made a bad read by not coming in to help Moylan however Moylan should of been able to make the tackle and Sifa did the right thing by staying on his man or else he creates an overlap.
 

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I get what you are saying, but my point is that Moylan was 1 on 1 last week and just got palmed off and run straight through.

It was implied Sifa had made a bad read by not coming in to help Moylan however Moylan should of been able to make the tackle and Sifa did the right thing by staying on his man or else he creates an overlap.
There is a reason nrl teams often run plays where they end up with someone one on one with a half though (or run a prop at a fullback in the line).
Many many tries get scored through someone who 'should have been able to make the tackle'.
Of course we can always theorise Trindall would stop them all.

But yes I agree, the outside man often won't be in a position to come back inside off their own man to help. Usually more likely the next man in who is already sliding out can get there. Alternately you shoot the outside guys in a spot each to take pressure off your half and force earlier decisions but at the expense of leaving space wide someone has to get over and cover. Watch broncos highlights where Mam and Walsh both get across hard to shut down wingers who they have intentionally left unmarked.
Maybe something we could investigate but need Will to be hustling hard to edges to defend the winger. Which can leave us vulnerable back on the inside, especially to a kick back towards the middle.
 

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There is a reason nrl teams often run plays where they end up with someone one on one with a half though (or run a prop at a fullback in the line).
Many many tries get scored through someone who 'should have been able to make the tackle'.
Of course we can always theorise Trindall would stop them all.

100% agree if it’s a prop, it is intentional to get big man on small man, but this wasn’t a prop. It was someone that Moylan should of been able to tackle.

So I don’t see how Sifa didn’t made the right call on this one, despite other people sledging him on it…if centres came in on that play teams would be scoring down that edge every set.
 

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100% agree if it’s a prop, it is intentional to get big man on small man, but this wasn’t a prop. It was someone that Moylan should of been able to tackle.

So I don’t see how Sifa didn’t made the right call on this one, despite other people sledging him on it…if centres came in on that play teams would be scoring down that edge every set.
I can assure you plenty of teams try to put a second rower, centre or fullback one on one with halves in backline plays. Often they try out second rower and centre two on 1 with the half.

NRL is full of people who should have been able to tackle that guy every weekend. Hunt beat Nicho.

We can blame Moylan for not making a one on one but we can’t pretend it’s not something teams play for against halves regardless of opposition. Even if it’s not the half that gets beaten it’s the threat to them that pulls the centre (and then winger) inwards to help them.
 

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Brad Parker? Sorry but with all due respect I'd take any of our internal options before going to market for Brad ****ing Parker. That would be like going to market to replace Moylan with Jeff Robson.
Just saying as a fill in the gap solution for the remainder of this year so we can get Talakai back into the forwards. Ideally Iro really proves himself and fixes his defensive issues and is ready to go for next year to partner Jesse in the centres for many years to come.
 

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We can blame Moylan for not making a one on one but we can’t pretend it’s not something teams play for against halves regardless of opposition. Even if it’s not the half that gets beaten it’s the threat to them that pulls the centre (and then winger) inwards to help them.

I am not meaning to comment on Moylan…all my point is that in this instance Talakai stayed on his man and now he has done the wrong thing for not coming in to help Moylan out (who in reality should of been capable of making that tackle). Yet if Talakai does comes in they pass to an overlap and he has done the wrong thing for coming in off his man…..

He can’t win either way….
 

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I am not meaning to comment on Moylan…all my point is that in this instance Talakai stayed on his man and now he has done the wrong thing for not coming in to help Moylan out (who in reality should of been capable of making that tackle). Yet if Talakai does comes in they pass to an overlap and he has done the wrong thing for coming in off his man…..

He can’t win either way….
I know mate, just adding to the convo based on what you were saying and wider convo from others
 

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has been massively underwhelming this season , i truly think that playing him in the centres is and never was the answer.
The guy is a backrower and handy when a back gets injured cause we can cover it by using him there if desperate but he shouldn't be a centre
 
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has been massively underwhelming this season , i truly think that playing him in the centres is and never was the answer.
The guy is a backrower and handy when a back gets injured cause we can cover it by using him there if desperate but he shouldn't be a centre

Yeah but what are our centre options?
 

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If he doesn't improve his D soon it'll be time to bring Iro in.

No Iro isn't a good defender but you expect that from a rookie.
 
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