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Not worth the downgrade, could contest the charge and argue it is careless high not shoulder charge. Might still only be getting it down to three though
 

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Does the fact that a player has been din binned reduce the sentence in any way? Some players get charged without having been binned. It doesn't seem fair to treat the same afterwards.

Surprised you've heard of the din bin. For those that haven't, it's a room out the back of the Toup Kitchen where people clang saucepans together.
 

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Not worth the downgrade, could contest the charge and argue it is careless high not shoulder charge. Might still only be getting it down to three though

That’s not actually a thing you can do is it? You can contest the grading but you can not have the charge changed. He is either guilty of a grade 3 shoulder charge, or he isn’t. If he is not guilty - no suspension.

I don’t believe you can go to them and say “we think it wasn’t a shoulder charge but he will plead guilty to a grade 2 careless high tackle”. I don’t think the system has scope for that.

I could be wrong - but I remember this being discussed a little while ago as one of the issues with the MRC system.
 

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Made sense in theory but you could well be right it’s not a thing. Seems like it wouldn’t come up enough to be too problematic either, not many you could get changed.
Worth looking at with someone if they could get off on the shoulder charge anyway, looks like good tackle technique to me
 

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It was a brilliant hit but unfortunately yes it is deemed a shoulder charge under the rules

at least he was trying to inspire us, he was a beast last night and first game back
 

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They're not use to seeing Cronulla players do those shots so they'll say it was illegal head high & illegal shouldrr charge, if it was Roosters though they'd be saying it was a fine hit, nothing wrong with it & just a tough shot. If he gets more then 4 for that then it will prove to me that the game has gone completely soft. These days they just aren't happy seeing players so wobbly & all over the place either like he was last night, he was gone for all money.
 

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A number of the Sharks players on Instagram questioning the difference between the Chrichton and Talakai shots, and fair enough. You’ve got to wonder about the NRL’s “unconscious bias” here. Even the Fox commentator called him a “scary looking individual”.

Will be interesting to see the match review committee charges today.
 

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i think you can downgrade the charge, players before have gone in and gotten the grading lowered

Yeah - we know that. Players contest the grading all the time. The discussion was whether or not you can argue that you should have been charged with something else (e.g. high tackle rather than shoulder charge). I don’t believe this is possible. If you think they have charged you with the wrong thing you need to just argue that you are not guilty of the “wrong” charge.
 
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A number of the Sharks players on Instagram questioning the difference between the Chrichton and Talakai shots, and fair enough. You’ve got to wonder about the NRL’s “unconscious bias” here. Even the Fox commentator called him a “scary looking individual”.

Will be interesting to see the match review committee charges today.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2021/04/23/round-7-charges/
 

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Yeah - we know that. Players contest the grading all the time. The discussion was whether or not you can argue that you should have been charged with something else (e.g. high tackle rather than shoulder charge). I don’t believe this is possible. If you think they have charged you with the wrong thing you need to just argue that you are not guilty of the “wrong” charge.

gotchya
 

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No charge for Crichton, what a farce. I hope the club, coach and players speak out about this.

(By the way, there was nothing wrong with either tackle).
 

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Some of those charges make no sense to me. Currans was clearly a head clash, there was no malice in that but it's the Storm I guess so it will always be different with Melbourne & Roosters. Back onto Talakais, they deem his to be a shoulder charge but they charge shoulder charges worse then some high tackles. High tackles are meant to be a lot worse & dangerous then shoulder charges.
 
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With Crichton's wasn't he actually penalised for a shoulder charge? I'm sure I remember Klein saying, "shoulder charge" when penalising him.

If that's the case shouldn't he be charged by the MRC?
 

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No charge for Crichton, what a farce. I hope the club, coach and players speak out about this.

(By the way, there was nothing wrong with either tackle).


This is unbelievably believable unfortunately.

very quickly getting fed up with this ****.
 
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