Official Sharks Hall of Fame

[SF]

Well the alternative would be that it would be at Doltone House, and the minimum ticket price starting at $200-$250 (though including food/drink).

$50 (members price) is less than a couple of GA tickets these days.

It's a special night, I think you have to put some value on it too.

 

[bort]

Well the alternative would be that it would be at Doltone House, and the minimum ticket price starting at $200-$250 (though including food/drink).

$50 (members price) is less than a couple of GA tickets these days.

It's a special night, I think you have to put some value on it too.

Lower the price drops the greater risk of no shows too
Last thing you'd wanna do is make it nice and affordable, say $30pp, and have 20% not bother to turn up or something.

 

[davetherave]

I hope we can sell the remaining seats to this event (about 1/3 left).

https://premier.ticketek.com.au/shows/show.aspx?sh=SHA9825

It would be sad to hold it in a stadium with empty seats. It's great the club gave a chance for everyone to be involved in this, rather than just the corporates. I know the tickets are a little pricey for a Tuesday night event though.

Disappointed in the timing being so close to Vegas, We’re making an extended holiday and leaving early

 

[SF]

See updated version in the first post of the thread.

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To be considered for the Hall of Fame, a player must have met four of the following five criteria:

• Demonstrated exceptional performance on and off the field
• Played State of Origin
• Been an international Test representative. (Including Rugby League World Cup matches)
• Played 100 first-grade games for the Cronulla Sharks or won a premiership with the Club.
• Received a Dally M Medal, NRL-recognised award (e.g. Dally M positional award, Provan Summons Medal, Rothmans Medal, Ken Stephen Medal) or a Porter-Gallen Medal/Sharks Player of the Year award.

In the tables below I'm going to ignore the first criteria, and leave any off-field considerations to the morality police.
So assuming all players pass the "exceptional performance" criteria, they need at least 3/4 of the remaining criteria.

Believed to be Eligible (3/4 or 4/4):

Player	State of Origin	International Test	100 Games or Premiership	Major Award
Paul Gallen	Yes	Yes	Both	Porter-Gallen Medal x 5
David Peachey	Yes	Yes	Games	Porter-Gallen Medal x 3, Dally M Fullback of the Year x2
Andrew Fifita	Yes	Yes	Both	Porter-Gallen Medal
Wade Graham	Yes	Yes	Both	Porter-Gallen Medal
Dane Sorensen	No	Yes	Yes	Dally M Prop of the Year 1981
Mat Rogers	Yes	Yes	Games	Dally M Rep Player of the Year
Danny Lee	Yes	No	Games	Porter-Gallen Medal x 2
Mark McGaw	Yes	Yes	Games	?
Brett Kimmorley	Yes	Yes	Games	Porter-Gallen Medal
Luke Lewis	Yes	Yes	Both	Clive Churchill Medal 2016.
Jason Stevens	Yes	Yes	Games	Porter-Gallen Medal
Nicho Hynes	Yes	Yes	No	Dally M Medal
Danny Nutley	Yes	No	Games	Porter-Gallen Medal
Matt Prior	Yes	Yes	Both	Porter-Gallen
James Maloney	Yes	Yes	Premiership	Dally M 5/8 of the Year 2016
Paul Green	Yes	Yes	No (95)	Rothmans Medal
Greg Bird	Yes	Yes	Games	Porter-Gallen Medal
Martin Lang	Yes	Yes	Games	Porter-Gallen Medal
Val Holmes	Yes	Yes	Both	Porter-Gallen Medal
Les Davidson	Yes	Yes	Games	?
Matt Moylan	Yes	Yes	Games	?
Anthony Tupou	Yes	Yes	Games	?
Phil Bailey	Yes	Yes	Games	?
Michael Ennis	Yes	No	Premiership	Dally M Hooker of the Year 2015
Ronaldo Mulitalo	No (selected)	Yes	Games	Ken Stephen Medal
Sam Tagataese	No	Yes (Samoa)	Both	Ken Stephen Medal
Luke Douglas	No	Yes (Scotland)	Games	Porter-Gallen Medal
Chris McKenna	Yes	Yes	Games	?
Ken Maddison	Yes	Yes	No (78)	Rothmans Medal 1975

Uncertain (at least 2/4, but unsure on another criteria, such as Major Awards):

Player	State of Origin	International Test	100 Games or Premiership	Major Award
Ron Turner	Yes	Yes	No (96)	?
Kurt Sorensen	No	Yes	Yes	?
Jonathan Docking	Yes	No	Yes	?
Steve Kneen	Yes	Yes	No (Amco Cup!)	?
Luke Covell	No	Yes	Yes	?
Alan Wilson	Yes	No	Yes	? (Dally M Rookie of the Year 1987)
Graham Wilson	Yes	Yes	No	?
Paul Khan	Yes	No	Yes	?
Sosaia Feki	No	Yes	Both	?
Briton Nikora	No	Yes	Yes	?
Dan Stains	Yes	Toured in 1989 but no Tests	Yes	?
Ricky Leutele	No	Yes (Samoa)	Yes	?
Jack Bird	Yes	No	Premiership	?
Jayson Bukuya	No	Yes (Fiji)	Premiership	?
Craig Greenhill	Yes	Yes	No	?
Gerard Beale	No	Yes	Premiership	?
Geoff Bell	Yes	Yes (Scotland)	No	?
Aaron Raper	Yes	Yes	No	?
Ray Corcoran	Yes	No	Yes	?
Aaron Woods	Yes	Yes	No	Prop of the Year @ Tigers
Sione Katoa	No	Yes	Yes	?
Kade Snowden	Yes	Yes	No	?
Chris Heighington	No	Yes (England)	Both	?

Believed to be ineligible (two or more "No"s):

Player	State of Origin	International Test	100 Games or Premiership	Major Award
Cliff Watson	No	Yes	No	?
Chad Townsend	No	No	Yes	Porter-Gallen Medal
Preston Campbell	No	No	No	Dally M Medal
Mick Mullane Jr	No	No	No	?
Rick Bourke	No	No	Yes	?
Barry Russell	No	No	Yes	Rothmans Medal
Terry Hughes	No	No	No	Rothmans Medal
Craig Dimond	No	No	No	Porter-Gallen Medal
Paul Donaghy	No	No	No	Porter-Gallen Medal
Shaun Johnson	No	Yes	No	Porter-Gallen Medal
William Kennedy	No	No	Yes	Porter-Gallen Medal
Blayke Brailey	No	No	Yes	Porter-Gallen Medal x 2
Adam Dykes	No	No	Yes	Porter-Gallen Medal
Mitch Healey	No	No	Yes	?
Ben Barba	No	No	Premiership	? Dally M Medal @ Bulldogs 2016 Players Player
Monty Porter	Yes	No	No	?
David Hatch	No	No	Yes	Dally M Captain Of The Year 1985,1988
Ben Pomeroy	No	No	Yes	?
John Maguire	No	No	Yes	?
Jeff Robson	No	No	No	?
Ben Ross	Yes	No	No	?
Nigel Vagana	No	Yes	No	?
Chris Beattie	Yes	No	No	?
Colin Best	No	No	No	?
Tawera Nikau	No	Yes	No	?
Russell Richardson	No	Yes	No	?
Richie Barnett	No	Yes	No	?
Michael Speechley	No	No	Yes	?
Michael Porter	No	No	Yes	?
Chris Gardner	No	No	Yes	?
Rowland Beckett	No	No	No	?
Roger Millward	No	Yes	No	?
Steve Edmonds	No	No	Yes	?
Trent Hodkinson	Yes	No	No	Ken Stephen Medal @ Bulldogs
Braydon Trindall	No	No	No	?
Michael Gordon	No	No	No	Porter-Gallen Medal x 2
Sean Ryan	Yes (SL)	No	Yes	?
Sam Isemonger	No	No	No	?
Nathan Long	No	No	Yes	?
Dean Treister	No	No	Yes	?
Andrew Pierce	No	No	Yes	?

Notes:

• Based on wikipedia/RLP. They may be incomplete or exclude Super League games.
• I may have introduced some errors.... done very quickly.
• In no particular order
• Not a full list of all eligible players
• Assuming the rep appearances don't have to be for the Sharks. There could be some strange cases where players don't meet the 100-game/Premiership criteria, but meet all the others. I haven't come across any obvious though. I believe the 100-game/Premiership criteria should be a mandatory one.
• For Premiership, I am assuming only the final 17 players, not the full squad
• I've generally only listed the first Major Award that qualifies them. Many have multiple awards. Not sure if awards only count if they were won during time at Cronulla.
• For State of Origin, I counted pre-Origin NSW/QLD Firsts.
• I have not included NRLW - Tiana Penitani and Emma Tonegato would likely be eligible, possibly others.
• Test Matches should maybe only include Tier 1 and Pacific nations. Not Scotland/Ireland etc.
• The "Exceptional performance off the field" will be the most controversial aspect of the criteria.
• Sharks Player of the Year records not known (online) before 1989. Dally M-type positional Awards not known before 1980

 

[Art Vandelay]

good list man.

so les davidson, he played aus and nsw before he came to the sharks. i think its gotta be represented with us?

dane sorenson was dally m prop of the year in 1981 according to rlp. if thats correct he gets the 4 categories.

i did an ep with sammy on shakcast about the hall of fame, the criteria is quite interesting hey. exceptional performance on and off the field is fairly ambiguous and the most discussable point.

 

[Art Vandelay]

also, a guy like ron turner, how are they judging pre state of origin nsw/qld etc?
and or superleague tri series!
should be a good night for anyone going

 

[apezza]

I was bored Let me know if I missed anyone, or any corrections

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To be considered for the Hall of Fame, a player must have met four of the following five criteria:

• Demonstrated exceptional performance on and off the field
• Been an international Test representative. (Including Rugby League World Cup matches)
• Played State of Origin
• Played 100 first-grade games for the Cronulla Sharks or won a premiership with the Club.
• Received a Dally M Medal, NRL-recognised award (e.g. Dally M positional award, Provan Summons Medal, Rothmans Medal, Ken Stephen Medal) or a Porter-Gallen Medal/Sharks Player of the Year award.

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Sorry mate, looks like a great post but might have to wait for it to come out on DVD before I get to watch it!

 

[SF]

good list man.

so les davidson, he played aus and nsw before he came to the sharks. i think its gotta be represented with us?

Yeah I wasn't sure on that. The criteria don't explicitly state it has to be with us... but I think it would get taken into consideration when actually deciding who gets in.

dane sorenson was dally m prop of the year in 1981 according to rlp. if thats correct he gets the 4 categories.

Thanks I only saw right at the end that RLP had those awards. I'll go back and check some others if I get time. Though the Sorensens are the main two in that category that probably have a chance.

i did an ep with sammy on shakcast about the hall of fame, the criteria is quite interesting hey. exceptional performance on and off the field is fairly ambiguous and the most discussable point.

Thanks I'll see if I listened to that or missed it. I am sort of guessing the exceptional performance is mainly to rule out those with off-field dramas. I think anyone who meets all the other criteria probably qualifies for exceptional performance, unless they were brilliant at another club and then (similar to what you said above) came to us late in their career. But yes will be interesting to see the results, hopefully they do publish some background to fend off any complaints!

 

[SF]

also, a guy like ron turner, how are they judging pre state of origin nsw/qld etc?
and or superleague tri series!
should be a good night for anyone going

Yeah I assume we will count Super League, and I was guessing any NSW/QLD Firsts team... but when I think about it, the criteria doesn't say that, it just says "State of Origin". I still think these criteria disadvantage the old timers a bit... but probably no absolutely blatant examples.

 

[SF]

So Ronaldo is also eligible based on the Ken Stephen Medal (as is Tagataese).

Interesting comparison between Mulitalo and Mat Rogers:

• Ronaldo - 110 games, 83 tries. One club. 9 Tests.
• Mat Rogers - 123 games, 75 tries, 406 goals. 11 Tests

Rogers' goals and Origin games probably get him over the line, but it's a close one

 

[apezza]

So Ronaldo is also eligible based on the Ken Stephen Medal (as is Tagataese).

Interesting comparison between Mulitalo and Mat Rogers:

• Ronaldo - 110 games, 83 tries. One club.
• Mat Rogers - 123 games, 75 tries, 406 goals.

Rogers' goals and Origin games probably get him over the line, but it's a close one

Let's see where Ronnie finishes in other 6 or 7 years.

 

[bort]

So Ronaldo is also eligible based on the Ken Stephen Medal (as is Tagataese).

Interesting comparison between Mulitalo and Mat Rogers:

• Ronaldo - 110 games, 83 tries. One club. 9 Tests.
• Mat Rogers - 123 games, 75 tries, 406 goals. 11 Tests

Rogers' goals and Origin games probably get him over the line, but it's a close one

Feels harsh to hold origin appearances again Ronnie haha, even more than your usual Kiwi int

ATM Mat probably did have the better career with us but might not be saying that as soon as this season end... (hopefully not, as Ronnie the clear leader with a Prem...)

 

[SF]

Feels harsh to hold origin appearances again Ronnie haha, even more than your usual Kiwi int

ATM Mat probably did have the better career with us but might not be saying that as soon as this season end... (hopefully not, as Ronnie the clear leader with a Prem...)

Yeah I think to make it simpler, they should not include current NRL players.

 

[apezza]

Yeah I think to make it simpler, they should not include current NRL players.

I would be very surprised if current NRL players were considered. But yeh - maybe they should have clarified that.

 

[MrDravid]

I would be very surprised if current NRL players were considered. But yeh - maybe they should have clarified that.

Normally they have a criteria retirement/retired for x number of years. Wouldn't think it'd be any different us.

 

[SF]

good list man.

so les davidson, he played aus and nsw before he came to the sharks. i think its gotta be represented with us?

dane sorenson was dally m prop of the year in 1981 according to rlp. if thats correct he gets the 4 categories.

i did an ep with sammy on shakcast about the hall of fame, the criteria is quite interesting hey. exceptional performance on and off the field is fairly ambiguous and the most discussable point.

Ha I should have listened to your podcast first, you covered all the interesting points I found! Good episode, I missed it at the time

 

[SF]

The weather has co-operated for tomorrow night at least.

My predictions...

If they go for the older players first...:

• Paul Gallen
• David Peachey
• Dane Sorensen
• Brett Kimmorley
• Jason Stevens
• Mat Rogers or Mark McGaw

If they include more of the more recent players...

• Paul Gallen
• David Peachey
• Andrew Fifita
• Wade Graham
• Dane Sorensen
• Jason Stevens

 

[apezza]

The weather has co-operated for tomorrow night at least.

My predictions...

If they go for the older players first...:

• Paul Gallen
• David Peachey
• Dane Sorensen
• Brett Kimmorley
• Jason Stevens
• Mat Rogers

If they include more of the more recent players...

• Paul Gallen
• David Peachey
• Andrew Fifita
• Wade Graham
• Dane Sorensen
• Jason Stevens

I like your first list. Happy for Wade and Andrew to make the next one.

 

[Art Vandelay]

Gallen should just be a sharks immortal right?

 

[Gumby]

Gallen & Fifita are my main 2 who i think 100% should be picked tomorrow.