Official Shark Park & Woolooware Bay Development

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That bit on the northern end looks weird. It looks set back a bit. It would bloody want to be, that area needs to be left for the extension of the ET stand long-term.

Just had a better look at the plans. I think it's a poor design.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Do we really need more seating though? Our crowd figures are ****ing ****house now. I'm not sure more seating will change much?

Surely there would be a way to just build a roof over the PB stand?

 

[Art Vandelay]

I honestly don't see that happening if they are doing this weirdo construction now,
I dare say capacity will in fact shrink
there salso not any realistic thing to do at the powerlines end because of the aforementioned powerlines.

if it were me, I would have

1. Moved the playing arena south by 10 meters or so so the fence line is where the porter stand footpath is
2. knock down all the concourse seating at the place and rebuild it at a steeper rake ala bankwest going back say 20 rows. have this at the ET side, the Burns side and the Hill Side
3. Extend Upper ET North and SOuth with undercover seating ala what Kogarah looks like
4. Extend the Burns stand north and south attached to the new fixtures for the hotel and club (keep the club gronk deck above)

this model, for mine will be a bandaid and by 2030 we wont be playing there

 

[Art Vandelay]

Over the existing part maybe.

Maybe, Maybe not however I would also argue that the club needs to do the following

All ticketed members are given Burns, ET and Porter tickets
Concourse is GA at 20 bucks given it has no cover
Standing GA with no seat and no cover..shouldn't be more than 15 dollars. **** make it 12. make it a cheap day out if all you wnna do is go and stand. 20 dollars should buy yo a seat to sit in.
membership should get you a better seat. the porter, ET and burns stands are all good.
you need an actual poi9nt of difference from the new good bankwest venue. not just an inferior one.

 

[HaroldBishop]

I honestly don't see that happening if they are doing this weirdo construction now,
I dare say capacity will in fact shrink
there salso not any realistic thing to do at the powerlines end because of the aforementioned powerlines.

if it were me, I would have

1. Moved the playing arena south by 10 meters or so so the fence line is where the porter stand footpath is
2. knock down all the concourse seating at the place and rebuild it at a steeper rake ala bankwest going back say 20 rows. have this at the ET side, the Burns side and the Hill Side
3. Extend Upper ET North and SOuth with undercover seating ala what Kogarah looks like
4. Extend the Burns stand north and south attached to the new fixtures for the hotel and club (keep the club gronk deck above)

this model, for mine will be a bandaid and by 2030 we wont be playing there

Unfortunately I agree.

 

[slide rule]

Over the existing part maybe.

Maybe, Maybe not however I would also argue that the club needs to do the following

All ticketed members are given Burns, ET and Porter tickets
Concourse is GA at 20 bucks given it has no cover
Standing GA with no seat and no cover..shouldn't be more than 15 dollars. **** make it 12. make it a cheap day out if all you wnna do is go and stand. 20 dollars should buy yo a seat to sit in.
membership should get you a better seat. the porter, ET and burns stands are all good.
you need an actual poi9nt of difference from the new good bankwest venue. not just an inferior one.

But they are selling memberships to all areas now. I don't know why you'd want to reduce the number of members. Seats are limited.

 

[slide rule]

This is a plan for us not to play there.

Next there won't be any feasible way to expand due to the poor placement of these buildings.

 

[Art Vandelay]

But they are selling memberships to all areas now. I don't know why you'd want to reduce the number of members. Seats are limited.

That's why we need more seats, for more members, and more cover

this plan, they have proposed....does not facilitate any of that IMO

If we had a full length ET stand, end to end, doubling the capacity..you could sell way more memberships there.

 

[Art Vandelay]

This is a plan for us not to play there.

Next there won't be any feasible way to expand due to the poor placement of these buildings.

Well yes.
IMO, the whole of the ET side should be wiped, a new stand based on what bankwest is built all the way around from the family hill to the new entrance. that's half the field all shiny awesome and new.
You then extend the burns bit at each side.....it keeps ist old style charm....you could put a roof over the bit the LC is behind.
that's how we stay there lomg term

This plan creates a great training facility for the nomadic Sydney sharks

 

[slide rule]

That's why we need more seats, for more members, and more cover

this plan, they have proposed....does not facilitate any of that IMO

If we had a full length ET stand, end to end, doubling the capacity..you could sell way more memberships there.

I think that at least one of the sides need to have the ET stand extended. Probably the north end. Then maybe put that Corporate thing at the south. Don't care what they do with the other unspecified new commercial opportunities.

 

[slide rule]

And to create more uncovered seating on the other side by extending the PB stand would actually cost **** all. Put unspecified commercial activities underneath.

 

[slide rule]

This is a massive stitch up

 

[HaroldBishop]

And to create more uncovered seating on the other side by extending the PB stand would actually cost **** all. Put unspecified commercial activities underneath.

I think whatever new seating is added (to an existing stand) should be undercover.

There's plenty of uncovered seating as it is that is rarely filled.

 

[Art Vandelay]

It HAS to be under cover
ET Stand with a bit of a roof extension wrapped around to north end all the way to porter facilitates that.

 

[slide rule]

I think whatever new seating is added (to an existing stand) should be undercover.

There's plenty of uncovered seating as it is that is rarely filled.

No doubt people would prefer to be under cover and that's why it's best to extend the ET stand.

It's not a complex design and won't cause any issues with lines of vision from other seats etc. To put undercover seating on the PB side is harder. Open air seating on the PB side would be cheap construction, particularly if you can put commercial/club uses underneath- so you could basically improve the ground with very little effort or money.

All the people currently standing on the "sideline hills" etc are going to need to go somewhere.

It looks as though the new development might be encroaching on the PB side from the limited images they have provided. That's disappointing. Not sure what's happening with the upper PB stand "boxes". If they go maybe you could build a roof, but it would still probably require a bit of engineering. But if it can be retrofitted now, it can probably be done later down the track too.

 

[slide rule]

Pretty much every bit of new seating in this design looks to not be undercover. And its going right where it would be easiest to put covered seating.

 

[Mr Romper]

ET Stand needs to be replaced. The PM needs to provide a Government grant for its overhaul.

 

[yadam]

That bit on the northern end looks weird. It looks set back a bit. It would bloody want to be, that area needs to be left for the extension of the ET stand long-term.

This is the extension. Concourse essentially extends all along the front for the full length of the field now with only two gaps and new corporate stands at both ends of the existing stand. Sight lines are shown for the existing seats in the upper to show no blockage of sight for them. Remember these are concept drawings, the detailed ones will show just how the corporate seating will look. The SW corner is concourse and two levels of corporate seats with stretching around to the southern stand. With the new Chairman's lounge taking up the NW corner all those seats in the PB stand allocated to them now will again be available back to the public.

You can tell they massively upgrading the corporate facilities at the ground which is needed if they are to compete with the new stadium's offerings.

 

[yadam]

I honestly don't see that happening if they are doing this weirdo construction now,
I dare say capacity will in fact shrink
there salso not any realistic thing to do at the powerlines end because of the aforementioned powerlines.

if it were me, I would have

1. Moved the playing arena south by 10 meters or so so the fence line is where the porter stand footpath is
2. knock down all the concourse seating at the place and rebuild it at a steeper rake ala bankwest going back say 20 rows. have this at the ET side, the Burns side and the Hill Side
3. Extend Upper ET North and SOuth with undercover seating ala what Kogarah looks like
4. Extend the Burns stand north and south attached to the new fixtures for the hotel and club (keep the club gronk deck above)

this model, for mine will be a bandaid and by 2030 we wont be playing there

Got a spare $100 million - we have $15

 

[yadam]

No doubt people would prefer to be under cover and that's why it's best to extend the ET stand.

It's not a complex design and won't cause any issues with lines of vision from other seats etc. To put undercover seating on the PB side is harder. Open air seating on the PB side would be cheap construction, particularly if you can put commercial/club uses underneath- so you could basically improve the ground with very little effort or money.

All the people currently standing on the "sideline hills" etc are going to need to go somewhere.

PB stand itself is changed. The Hills on either side are getting terraced

It looks as though the new development might be encroaching on the PB side from the limited images they have provided. That's disappointing. Not sure what's happening with the upper PB stand "boxes". If they go maybe you could build a roof, but it would still probably require a bit of engineering. But if it can be retrofitted now, it can probably be done later down the track too.

PB stand is unchanged, including top level. The hills either side will be terraced according to the plans I've seen.