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Can’t see us losing Stonestreet.

Fitz has had a hard on for him since he joined the club.
 
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Stonestreet has a bright future and a higher ceiling than Katoa but atm I have Katoa ahead of him. Katoa was great in the Panthers game.

I do like the point of difference Stonestreet in his speed and height but he's not better than either imo. And perhaps his development to be that better player will only happen in first grade.

If you factor in cap management aswell as skill set, which imo you must when discussing a player then Stonestreet assuming he's cheaper than Katoa isn't a bad play, but I dont think Katoa would be on a lot ?

End of the day I dont see Stonestreet starting until we either release a winger or get an injury.

We might find Ronnie prices himself out and we keep Katoa ?
 

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Stonestreet has a bright future and a higher ceiling than Katoa but atm I have Katoa ahead of him. Katoa was great in the Panthers game.

I do like the point of difference Stonestreet in his speed and height but he's not better than either imo. And perhaps his development to be that better player will only happen in first grade.

If you factor in cap management aswell as skill set, which imo you must when discussing a player then Stonestreet assuming he's cheaper than Katoa isn't a bad play, but I dont think Katoa would be on a lot ?

End of the day I dont see Stonestreet starting until we either release a winger or get an injury.

We might find Ronnie prices himself out and we keep Katoa ?

If Proud Sharks best guess is to be believed Katoa likely on 300k and SS on 200k

That'd price Katoa around the 21-25 highest paid wingers in the comp
And SS around 41-45

This implies approx a third of the league have a second winger on more than Katoa. And approx half the league have a #3 winger on more than SS - this seems relatively fair?
 

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I'm in the start Sam camp. I don't think he's the better player yet, but I'd back him to be offering more than the others by mid season if we give him that chance. He just has that point of difference we desperately need.

I love Sione, he's one of my favourites but looking at it with no emotion I think it's obvious Sam is the choice.

Not just for his own upside but also because he fixes the biggest weakness in the position currently, Sione's height means he gets targeted, it sucks but its the truth.
 
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I love Sione, he's one of my favourites but looking at it with no emotion I think it's obvious Sam is the choice.

Not just for his own upside but also because he fixes the biggest weakness in the position currently, Sione's height means he gets targeted, it sucks but its the truth.
Other than the Penrith game mid-year I thought Sione had a great season aerially.

To me it's not about Sione having a specific deficiency, but more the whole side lacking speed. Stonestreet scored tries this year that no one else in our team would have. I want to see that evolve over a full season.
 
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Other than the Penrith game mid-year I thought Sione had a great season aerially.

To me it's not about Sione having a specific deficiency, but more the whole side lacking speed. Stonestreet scored tries this year that no one else in our team would have. I want to see that evolve over a full season.
Did you see that length of the field effort with Ison on GF day?

Wow!
 

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Stonestreet has a bright future and a higher ceiling than Katoa but atm I have Katoa ahead of him. Katoa was great in the Panthers game.

I do like the point of difference Stonestreet in his speed and height but he's not better than either imo. And perhaps his development to be that better player will only happen in first grade.

If you factor in cap management aswell as skill set, which imo you must when discussing a player then Stonestreet assuming he's cheaper than Katoa isn't a bad play, but I dont think Katoa would be on a lot ?

End of the day I dont see Stonestreet starting until we either release a winger or get an injury.

We might find Ronnie prices himself out and we keep Katoa ?
He is already better than Katoa, don't see what makes Katoa ahead of him. Anything Katoa does, Stonestreet either equals or improves...
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Katoa's weaknesses (rushing out of the line in D for example) haven't appeared in Stonestreet's game so far.
 

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He is already better than Katoa, don't see what makes Katoa ahead of him. Anything Katoa does, Stonestreet either equals or improves...
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Katoa's weaknesses (rushing out of the line in D for example) haven't appeared in Stonestreet's game so far.
I'm a Sam fan but Sione is far superior on kick returns and hitups, by a long way at this stage.
 
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