Round 21, 2012 NRL: Cronulla Sutherland Sharks vs Penrith Panthers @ Toyota Stadium, Saturday 28th July @ Toyota Stadium 07.30pm

[sharkyboy]

Your the only one trolling mate, your the only one talking **** about our Captain. Your trying to hard to get people to bite.

I'll give you an A for effort but a D+ for execution. I mean you have been beating this dead horse since origin, move on and try something new.
Bird signing with the Sharks is always a good one!

No trolling here, im dead serious and couldnt give a **** what anyone says.

Cheers gal.

 

[Webbyshark]

I haven't read every post on what happened in the game and i apologize if it has been brought up already. But my biggest concern outside of not defending that last set of 6 is how much we panic in golden point. Townsend taking that shot from about 40 out was not on. We should of:
a) Kick the ball to the corner, trust our defense to limit their metres and then on our second set , set up for a field goal or
b) Hoist a bomb up and put some pressure on their fullback and hope they drop it or at worst tackle them 10 out and then trust our defense and get the ball back in good area to start our second set.

What does everyone else think?

 

[Mark^Bastard]

I agree webby, we've been horrible in golden point in general.

I wonder how muc of it is coaching, because the coach would be telling the players what to do in the gap between full time and extra time, and we've done the same thing in a few games now.

I don't understand how other teams are able to get the field goal away but for our halves by the time they even receive the ball there's no way they can get a kick off, and a 40m kick from the side was never going over anyway.

Fake a field goal and run it I reckon.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Refs generally don't blow penalties in golden point so as a result teams jump the gun when they know a shot will be taken. When I say teams, I mean every other team except for us.

 

[MD9]

Haven't had a chance to get on here and vent about Saturday night, I've been too busy stinging over the loss and copping it from 2 mates who are Penrith fans that were at the game with me.
I don't even know what to think, it was terrible. We completed 9 more sets!? They made over 100 more tackles!? They missed more tackles, made more errors & we won the penalty count. The 'easiest' month of football against the Roosters, Dragons, Raiders and Panthers and we couldn't beat one of them, it's so disappointing.

I don't know whats been said by everyone but Jeremy Smith would have to be in the top 3 most influential forwards in the game today. What a player, he was great. Tupou is deadset the only player that is threatening the opposition, I'm actually looking forward to Gards coming back. I thought Leutele did a good job on Jennings in the 1st half. Bukuya was nowhere, did he play?

How frustrating. Anyways, onto the Warriors.

 

[A.Snowden]

What I want to know is why my mate Mr Kneen hasn't reared his head around here since the other morning. :gal:

 

[slide rule]

I agree webby, we've been horrible in golden point in general.

I wonder how muc of it is coaching, because the coach would be telling the players what to do in the gap between full time and extra time, and we've done the same thing in a few games now.

I don't understand how other teams are able to get the field goal away but for our halves by the time they even receive the ball there's no way they can get a kick off, and a 40m kick from the side was never going over anyway.

Fake a field goal and run it I reckon.

The kickers never seem to be deep enough and there doesn't seem to be any protection from the forwards. You can't really stand too far back if you're having a crack from 40, but if you're 10 or 20 metre out, surely standing back another 5 metres or so isn't going to make it too far to kick. It's always very rushed and unorganised, even when we seem to be "working" towards the field goal.

Kimmorely was particularly bad with it.

That's a general comment, nothing to do with Saturday night, because I didnt see the game.

 

[Mark^Bastard]

I think it's how deep they're standing and lack of blocking too, but surely the dummy half can pass the ball to the kicker quicker than props can run 20 metres?

 

[Weaponhead]

I don't have a problem with Chad taking the kick. We were running with a reasonable breeze so distance should not have been a problem.

The problem was with the blocking, the lack of an option kicker for Chad to pass to if he was pressured and the lack of cover in case of chargedown. These are execution issues and should be automatic for good sides.

We should have learnt from the Easts game that you need an option kicker but we didn't.

 

[SF]

I'm not really complaining about the referees, we had a few decisions go our way late in the game.

But Bill Harrigan's verdicts on the decisions are interesting:

Sharks v Panthers
Did the ball travel 10 metres in the final kick-off before fulltime – explain the rule?
The referee made the right decision, the ball travelled 10 metres and crossed over the 40 metre line and then went into touch. To make things clear, all the ball needs to do is cross the plane of the 10 metres. Once it has done that, the ball is deemed to be in-play no matter where it finishes up.
For example, the ball could travel 10 metres and then be blown back 15 metres and it would still be deemed to be play-on.
In this instance the ball has crossed the plane, so it was rightly deemed play-on. It has then gone out in touch marginally over the 40 metre line, which means the referee rightly awarded the scrum feed to Penrith. It was a tight call, but they got it right.
Was there a Panthers player offside at the kick-off?
I think the Panthers’ player is just in front of the kicker and could have been penalised for being offside. Both feet need to be behind the line at the kick-off and I think he is slightly in front.
Was Lachlan Coote offside from the charge down?
Lachlan Coote is offside. After close analysis today of this incident using slow motion replay, player Coote is in an offside position when he gains position of the ball following the charge down. It was a very difficult call for Officials in this instance due to the speed at which the play eventuated and the decision which needed to be made in a split second. Unfortunately on this occasion the decision was incorrect.
The video referee cannot rule on these incidents.

http://www.nrl.com/-official-view-r...-metres/tabid/10874/newsid/68957/default.aspx

 

[sharks2010]

hahaha **** me they have 4 officials on ground level and not one of them could see coote being offside
that will do me

 

[sharkyboy]

the video reff cant rule on it, but surely he can whisper in the reffs ear hes offside?

 

[sharks2010]

the video reff cant rule on it, but surely he can whisper in the reffs ear hes offside?

nothing stopping them from doing that

 

[Tank]

4points lost due to ref **** ups in golden point games. Not good enough NRL. This could and probably will cost us a semi final place and this will hurt the club financially. The NRL talk it up saying how professional they are etc etc yet he we are in a situation where the Sharks suffer due to pure incompetence! If clubs were managed as poorly as this there would be hell to pay.
Amazing that certain other clubs don't seem to cop as many of these critically dreadful decisions as we do!
Where's the accountability??

 

[DeathMoth]

well well. there's the confirmation. the refs cost us another game.

 

[sharkyboy]

Come on people who said "don't blame the refs, we played ****"

Yeah we played but we still should have won!!!

 

[Opeth]

that just makes it worse. illuminati out to prevent sharks from making the finals

 

[Webbyshark]

The problem from what i saw and he took that shot pretty much right in front of were i sat is how long it took for him to kick it and the main reason it took him so long was how far out he was when he took the shot. I know we had the wind at our back but he still had to give a decent strike to make the distance.

 

[Bundy Shark]

Imo no matter how we can try & sugar coat it we look disorganized in golden point, we look to have no vision or a inability to think outside the square & are mesmorized about "we have to kick a field goal", I know its easy being a arm chair critic but surely when we are going over video analysis this is discussed, even a message being sent down from Flanno prior to doing the golden point toss of a coin.

On a sidenote, if we were going to try & kick a field goal & do nothing else & if we were looking for a optional kicker a long way out give Matt Wright a go, he doesn't always hit them sweet but when he does he can kick them 50 plus metres.

 

[MD9]

It looks as though they don't train for the golden point scenario at all and then just panic.