Round 19, 2010: Sharks v Sea Eagles July 17 Toyota Stadium 7:30pm

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The problems with Tim Smith are as follows

He does not run the football.

He has completely lost his passing game, it is terrible.

His kicking game is poor.

He is a liability in defence.

I respect his ability to have overcome adversity in his life, but on what we are seeing now, he does not have a future in the NRL.

There are others in the team that are not much better.
 

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I really think Smithy is a good player.
His confidence is clearly down and I'm sure he's not getting the encouragement that he needs to thrive.
Especially from his head coach.

He just needs some personal wins and I'm sure he'll flip it around.
 
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i actually thought timmy played very well considering the scoreline his kicking game was as good as i've seen it since he joined the sharkies

john morris kept giving him hospital passes and he kept getting smashed
 
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As the commentator said, we can not go into next season with the halfs we have at the moment.

Morris is not a half, and Smith is a deadset liability in defense and hasn't been great in attack either.
 

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Watmough says Sea Eagles must build

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Watmough says Sea Eagles must build
ADRIAN WARREN
July 18, 2010 - 10:54AM

Barnstorming Manly second rower Anthony Watmough says the Sea Eagles would be silly not to build on the momentum generated by their big NRL win over Cronulla, as they prepare for a massive test against Wests Tigers next week.

Manly powered back into the eight on the back of their 48-18 mauling of the hapless Sharks at Toyota Stadium on Saturday night.

It was just their second win in their last six games.

Both coach Des Hasler and NSW and Australian representative, Watmough, who scored a first-half hat-trick of tries against the Sharks, emphasised the need to build on the momentum of Saturday night's performance.

"Definitely, we're silly if we (can't), we done a lot of good things out there," Watmough told reporters.

"The boys really worked hard for one another.

"We would be silly if we didn't. We've got to build on it.

"We got a lot of positives out of it, but we've got a lot of things we can still work on.

"A couple of errors we've been letting ourselves down on (we need to learn from that) and go from there, (like) being on the same page.

"We kicked early and let a few little hiccups through the middle again, that was probably us being a bit complacent, being a bit in front and not doing them little things to bust your butt."

Manly's next assignment is against the surging Tigers in Gosford on Saturday.

Wests overturned a 20-4 second half deficit to best Manly 26-22 in their opening round clash at the Sydney Football Stadium.

"It's a massive test, it was a big game at the start of the year and it's going to be a big game again," Watmough said.

Meanwhile, Sharks coach Ricky Stuart wants his team to put their words into action following their wretched performance on Saturday, when they trailed 36-0 at halftime.

Stuart said he was embarrassed for the die hard Cronulla supporters after watching his team's first-half display and had a "deep and meaningful" post-match discussion with his players.

"These are very, very tough situations and we have to action our talk. We can't just keep talking about getting to the game and not performing what we talk," said Stuart.

Lock Paul Gallen said the Sharks didn't react well when things went wrong.

"As soon as there's a penalty or a dropped ball or they score a try, it's like we have the mentality of 'here we go again', we can't get out of it, it just snowballs," Gallen said.

Captain Trent Barrett, who was a late withdrawal from Saturday's game with a shoulder problem, is considered a 50-50 chance of facing the Raiders in Canberra next Saturday.

Stuart drew some solace from the form of young fullback Nathan Gardner, but said he needed more help from other players.

Hasler described Cronulla as "pretty courageous" and said they had a lot of good young players.
 

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So hows the sideline for smith? I hear the ball crosses it ona kick for touch less often than we crossed the tryline at the start of the season
 

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I'm sure even an inept coach can see that we need a change in the halves. I'm sorry but I disagree that Tim had a good game. He doesn't run the ball and the constant switch/inside pass is so predictable the blind society can see it coming.
 

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We were extremely poor last night but we can hardly make Tim Smith the scapegoat.

Our defence was deadset embarassing and I was really pissed off with one of Tony Williams' tries.

The lads needed mirrors out there to look into because that was the worst defensive performance I have ever seen.

I wouldn't make anybody the scapegoat out of this, everyone was poor bar Gal and Snow.

Our halves simply aren't effective enough and anyone who thinks SFP is the answer is living with the fairies.

I don't know the answer to our problems but the evil player agents out there aren't helping by warning their clients away from us.

Defence is something that really needs working on for the Canberra game next weekend especially after the way Canberra are spanking the Knights.
 

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I love all the people on here saying how hard Tim Smith tried last night, well give him an encouragement award for his troubles at the end of year preso like they do for kids that try in the under 9's... This is the NRL and whilst trying is good, it's not enough to keep a spot in an NRL team. I'm not bagging him, just pointing out my thoughts.
 

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This is the NRL and whilst trying is good, it's not enough to keep a spot in an NRL team.
It is if you have no better option.

I also disagree with the idea that trying is not a worthwhile characteristic in itself. If you have two options of equal standard, wouldn't you pick the one who tried harder?
 

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It is if you have no better option.

I also disagree with the idea that trying is not a worthwhile characteristic in itself. If you have two options of equal standard, wouldn't you pick the one who tried harder?

I said trying hard is great. If he offered us something else with his "trying hard", for sure. But at the moment all he's offering us is "trying hard". You and I could do that. He is out of touch and needs a spell.

I can see it now at the selection table. "he can't kick, he struggles with his D and his passing game is shot... But he tries hard so let's select him"
 

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I said trying hard is great. If he offered us something else with his "trying hard", for sure. But at the moment all he's offering us is "trying hard". You and I could do that. He is out of touch and needs a spell.

I can see it now at the selection table. "he can't kick, he struggles with his D and his passing game is shot... But he tries hard so let's select him"
I'm not saying that he should be there... after Ricky dropped him he should not have brought him back like that.

But I don't think any player who is giving their all should be bagged by the crowd like he was last night, it was shocking. There were a lot of worse efforts and performances than his out there last night.
 

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Last nights game - I live in freo (way to go) so I only know info about the goings on over there through this site, and newspapers and freinds on this east coast - BUT - I just got told by a freind who was at the game that Flannagan discreetly ran the show last night, as I didnt watch the game only got updates on this site, just wondering if someone in the know could shed some light on this. I tried to get my freind to explain how he knew this and he said he was told prior to the game that flannagan was going to run it from the bench, was flannagan actually on the bench?
 

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I believe that Ricky was left alone with the players at half time at his request, so if Flanno was running the show he was doing it from the wrong side of the door.
 

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Last nights game - I live in freo (way to go) so I only know info about the goings on over there through this site, and newspapers and freinds on this east coast - BUT - I just got told by a freind who was at the game that Flannagan discreetly ran the show last night, as I didnt watch the game only got updates on this site, just wondering if someone in the know could shed some light on this. I tried to get my freind to explain how he knew this and he said he was told prior to the game that flannagan was going to run it from the bench, was flannagan actually on the bench?

if sticky is on the sideline flannos on the sideline,
sticky was running the show
 

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Thankfully I was out and didn't witness this ****. Drumming something up for next Saturday at the moment so I don't have to see it in real life.

I really can't see why everything will miraculously turn around once Stuart leaves.

Something has to happen though. I'm glad the 'BELIEVE' thing isn't too descriptive because my belief at the moment is that we're starring down the barrel of a Souths like dynasty from the early 2000's. We'll actually be worse next year with current players going and nothing new of any quality signing up for a ride on the Titanic.

Thank **** for booze! We're gonna need plenty of it over the next few years.
 

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I'm sure even an inept coach can see that we need a change in the halves. I'm sorry but I disagree that Tim had a good game. He doesn't run the ball and the constant switch/inside pass is so predictable the blind society can see it coming.

Apparently yes he can, seeing as he changed the halves!
 
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