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agree, sponsors would love a packed home ground than a 1/3 full satdium
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Hammerhead
That's with peak conditions in finals if you just count regular season lucky to break 20k really, clearly a full or even 3/4 at our actual home is better then at best a half empty stadium. I don't understand the aim here crowds clearly wont get better the money is better spent for upgrades to all sydney grounds or something.
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Jaws
It's being pushed by vested interests. Most of which probably don't have much to do with Rugby League at all.
sharks2010
Dribbler
As easy as it is to say we will just take 2 non sydney teams away from cronulla there is no way the nrl will let us choose what games we want to take there. They will make us take the derby there for starters, a game they know will draw big and look good on tv. I have no doubt about that. They want what's best for them not what's best for the clubs and their fans.
Playing the derby at those bigger grounds is just stupid. You lose all the atmosphere and takes away the feeling of it. Nothing beats a derby at the suburban grounds but the nrl really don't care about that
I went to the dragons and sharks game at homebush years ago and the atmosphere was ****. The only good thing about it was ryles giving away the penalty in golden point.
The best things the fans can do is boycott the games which probably wouldnt happen and i doubt the nrl would even care if the crowd numbers dropped which they will. Just means the people who run the nrl will have more tv viewers
The sad reality is we already struggle to get our locals to the game's now. And all jokes a side but it's true. Our crowds would be made up of a large percentage of locals so how many of them would travel to the city. We play a out of sydney team like the storm or Cowboys in the city we'd be lucky to get 7k there I reckon at a good time slot.
Like mentioned before there is no way it stops at just taking 2 games there for a few years, it will get progressively worse to the point where it will be us only taking 2 games to cronulla. The nrl are selling the clubs soul if they insist on playing at the bigger venues rather then suburban grounds.
Playing the derby at those bigger grounds is just stupid. You lose all the atmosphere and takes away the feeling of it. Nothing beats a derby at the suburban grounds but the nrl really don't care about that
I went to the dragons and sharks game at homebush years ago and the atmosphere was ****. The only good thing about it was ryles giving away the penalty in golden point.
The best things the fans can do is boycott the games which probably wouldnt happen and i doubt the nrl would even care if the crowd numbers dropped which they will. Just means the people who run the nrl will have more tv viewers
The sad reality is we already struggle to get our locals to the game's now. And all jokes a side but it's true. Our crowds would be made up of a large percentage of locals so how many of them would travel to the city. We play a out of sydney team like the storm or Cowboys in the city we'd be lucky to get 7k there I reckon at a good time slot.
Like mentioned before there is no way it stops at just taking 2 games there for a few years, it will get progressively worse to the point where it will be us only taking 2 games to cronulla. The nrl are selling the clubs soul if they insist on playing at the bigger venues rather then suburban grounds.
Yeah I agree 2010.
I was thinking today that parking meters aren't a bad analogy. Everyone kicks up a stink and the council says don't worry they'll only be on 2 streets near the centre of the CBD. Then they add another couple and people don't notice or get sick of complaining. Before you know it - it's every street.
I was thinking today that parking meters aren't a bad analogy. Everyone kicks up a stink and the council says don't worry they'll only be on 2 streets near the centre of the CBD. Then they add another couple and people don't notice or get sick of complaining. Before you know it - it's every street.
Gards
Jaws
I'm a ticketed member which gives me general admission for all 12 home games at Shark Park but if they take more games away to big stadium venues I will seriously consider if I would want to renew the same membership package.
A Flexi 5 membership might be all you need some day to attend all the real home games at Shark Park in a season.
But apparently the NRL are focused on growing membership numbers along with crowds...
I live closer to the City than the Shire but I actually find Shark Park more convenient as a venue and I look forward to driving down there for the games. I just park the car on the street (for free) and it's short walk to the ground and I can usually get inside the gates without much fuss. No ****ing around with trains or buses or driving in and needing to pay to park my car in the parking lot like at SFS/ANZ or finding the right ****ing door/bay I am supposed to walk in to find my seat
So the improving amenities card the NRL are playing about getting grounds 'up to spec'. It's a ****en footy game played by dumb ****s and watched by drunk ones - a small patch of grass to stand on and a metal troth to piss in does me fine. I don't expect to sit down in a leather recliner while an oscillating feather brush tickles my balls and cleans my excrement.
As long as the venue is safe and accessible that government money could be better spent on things that actually effect the well being of it's citizens instead of on doing favours for old mates contracting and construction buddies
If the NRL was actually drawing the crowds to justify the need for bigger capacities and better facilities to accommodate, this would be a different discussion for me but they are not drawing those numbers anywhere near consistently for me to see the sense in it
A Flexi 5 membership might be all you need some day to attend all the real home games at Shark Park in a season.
But apparently the NRL are focused on growing membership numbers along with crowds...
I live closer to the City than the Shire but I actually find Shark Park more convenient as a venue and I look forward to driving down there for the games. I just park the car on the street (for free) and it's short walk to the ground and I can usually get inside the gates without much fuss. No ****ing around with trains or buses or driving in and needing to pay to park my car in the parking lot like at SFS/ANZ or finding the right ****ing door/bay I am supposed to walk in to find my seat
So the improving amenities card the NRL are playing about getting grounds 'up to spec'. It's a ****en footy game played by dumb ****s and watched by drunk ones - a small patch of grass to stand on and a metal troth to piss in does me fine. I don't expect to sit down in a leather recliner while an oscillating feather brush tickles my balls and cleans my excrement.
As long as the venue is safe and accessible that government money could be better spent on things that actually effect the well being of it's citizens instead of on doing favours for old mates contracting and construction buddies
If the NRL was actually drawing the crowds to justify the need for bigger capacities and better facilities to accommodate, this would be a different discussion for me but they are not drawing those numbers anywhere near consistently for me to see the sense in it
Gards
Jaws
Nice to stuff the clubs coffers and all but still doesn't do much for the fans and members
Factoring in memberships bought in advance for the season along with tickets bought at ground, food, drinks, pokies, merch, sponsors ect ect. we would be pulling in well over $600k of revenue as it is for a home game at Shark Park based on a crowd of around 15,000. Yes there are costs in running game day but I would imagine a tidy profit margin still results
If the NRL forces our hand then yes ofcourse we try to get as much financial compensation out of it as possible
Then again I recall a few years back taking some home games to a suburban ground in NZ for the sake of $200k or thereabouts. But that was when we were in desperate financial trouble and had dirt crowd numbers nearly every week
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evertonshark
Jaws
What a shambles, stop trying to copy melbourne you fools.
BlackWhiteBlue
Jaws
Like i said the other day.
Manly vs Roosters, saturday night of the 4 day long weekend, 12,200 fans attended the game. In a 45,000 capacity stadium. Thats 1/4 capacity. We had 9000 on the monday night with a travelling opponent. In a 22k capacity stadium. Thats just under half capacity.
If the NRL think moving games to bigger stadiums is part of the picture they are ****ing stupid. Maybe 15 years in the future, but not now
Manly vs Roosters, saturday night of the 4 day long weekend, 12,200 fans attended the game. In a 45,000 capacity stadium. Thats 1/4 capacity. We had 9000 on the monday night with a travelling opponent. In a 22k capacity stadium. Thats just under half capacity.
If the NRL think moving games to bigger stadiums is part of the picture they are ****ing stupid. Maybe 15 years in the future, but not now
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Jaws
I wonder how often these idiot journos even visit the suburban grounds? Some of them are a mess but others are entirely adequate for the needs.
Shark Park, Parramatta, Penrith, WIN Stadium and even Kogarah are fine. They talk like they are third world facilities which they are not.
Shark Park, Parramatta, Penrith, WIN Stadium and even Kogarah are fine. They talk like they are third world facilities which they are not.
BlackWhiteBlue
Jaws
This is what i dont understand, yeah we've got bessa block toilet blocks and food vans rather than assorted little catering stalls but it represents the game and the people who follow it. Standing on the hill beer n a hotdog. Yeah some like the big stadium thing but when its in front of basically 5 people plus sam burgess's extended family what appeal does it have.
You try to market the sport with images of empty seats, its gunna go down hill fast. Sadly the nrl care about the tv deal and nothing more. Once teams start to lose traditional homes they become even more expendable
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Jaws
The thing is, the suburban grounds have seating options as well if that's the way you like to watch the game. It's not like everyone is standing around in mud.
Sitting on a plastic seat at Shark Park is no worse than sitting on a plastic seat at Homebush or the SFS.
BlackWhiteBlue
Jaws
Exactly. Hill for the kids, and atmosphere
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I seriously doubt I'd make the effort to get up to Sydney if we weren't playing out of Shark Park. The appeal is all in soaking up the Shire, supporting the club by going to the leagues club, getting on the grog with muppets on the hill & experiencing the Sharks experience. Nearly all of this disappears when you take a game to a bigger ground.
The money won't be there in 15 years. This is a once in a generation opportunity.
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Jaws
Just like building the Olympic Stadium 20 years ago and the SFS 8 years before that...
You know full-well that forking out a billion+ bucks for stadiums is coming directly out of the the electricity sell off pot and won't ever happen again.