A.Snowden
Jaws
haha it's all in good fun bud, gee you lot get emotional when defending your iproducts!
OS Holy War (was sharks.com.au Avast warning)
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Mark^Bastard
Great White
Niche artistic industries use apple just because. There is no actual reason.
BradPhil67
Mullet
I won't own an apple anything.
Once you got one .... you gotta get the lot !!!
Once you got one .... you gotta get the lot !!!
Heaps of ****s are capable of making footballs but they use Steeden in the NRL. Why?
Snowden: cut me some slack. I'm boozed up.
I was systems admin for 20 years. Where I work now (a very large organisation) was totally mac back in the late 80s - early 90s. I was a programmer back then.
My section was defiant and on PCs - we were pioneers in bringing in NT, and ended up training our dumb arse IT branch in Windows technology.
Today all is PC.
What you apple iheads don't seem to understand is that every thing apple offers is available anyway in the PC world - you just get sucked in by the ihype.
Worst still - apple ***** doesn't play with a lot of important software / programs out there.
PCs don't have that issue.
My section was defiant and on PCs - we were pioneers in bringing in NT, and ended up training our dumb arse IT branch in Windows technology.
Today all is PC.
What you apple iheads don't seem to understand is that every thing apple offers is available anyway in the PC world - you just get sucked in by the ihype.
Worst still - apple ***** doesn't play with a lot of important software / programs out there.
PCs don't have that issue.
sharks2010
Dribbler
Here here, here Here. **** there seems to be some people in here with sand in their vaginas
Point 1 - the "audio professionals" obviously like macs - truth is your toy can't do anything better than a good PC, but it will have trouble with non-apple architecture without spending lots of money and ****ing around with settings for ages.
Point 2 - You obviously bought a crap PC
What the Windows lovers don't get is that most people don't give a rats about the top end capability of their computer because they will never use it. They just want it to be well designed- yes, that includes aesthetics, but it means system stability and most importantly ease of use. Windows was developed by a bunch of nerds who above all wanted the damn thing to work. Fair enough too. What Apple have done is go beyond it merely working to the point where it works how most people want it to- so that it doesn't feel like you're using a computer so much.
To each their own.
To each their own.
Well like I said. My Mac is perfect for my needs. In the foreseeable future, there will not be a product that i need that wont work perfectly on my computer. I could do what I do on a windows system, but I don't like windows. It's only ever wound up being a pain in my ass. I've got work to do. My Mac lets me do it. That's all I need.
AB - I have respect - but I doubt you have the background or knowledge to back that statement.
WillyInBris
Jaws
You didn't have to outlay for new software at all?
So your impressed that the new mac you have is better then the three year old pc you had well ummm duh lol in three years time you will be impressed with whatever you replace your mac with.
Next your going to tell us its a way or life or something FFS it will always be a computer and if it doesn't feel like a computer you may have some real serious issues.
What you guys have done is purchased proprietary hardware systems that are limited so they can be kept stable and you pay through the teeth for it this is no different from the PS3 and Xbox consoles windows is different and they dont spec/sell the hardware the utilise the latest hardware in the market so as hardware evolves software evolves allowing people to decide what they need regarding speed how much they can afford to invest as well as apps etc.
Its called choice you dont get much of that with macs etc they just lock you in for the ride.
Mark^Bastard
Great White
I think some people have a lack of understanding in how this all works.
It's not Mac vs Windows.
There are many many different computer manufacturers in the world and many many different operating systems. Apple are a hardware manufacturing company that focus their efforts at a niche using brilliant marketing and they do their job well. They also use a modified version of BSD (A unix derived open source operating system) as an operating system and create an ecosystem that extremely limits choice such that it appears to be stable at what it does do, which isn't really a lot.
It is seriously lacking in support for Business Systems and Gaming. So saying it "just works" is a cop out. It doesn't "just work" for two of the most popular uses of computers.
It is an entire industry of hardware manufacturers and a plephora of operating system choices against one niche company that makes hardware and operating systems that are dumbed down and tarted up for their niche. Good for them. But to compare them to the PC (which is not a synonym for Windows, iTards) is just ridiculous.
And as far as MP3 players go, the Apple ecosystem is balls. iTunes is some of the worst software I've ever used. The only worse software I've used is old versions of QuickTime and of course Real Player. It's just really horrible bloatware. Installs QuickTime, Bonjour and all this other **** I don't want on my PC, and then tries its hardest to force Safari on to people as well. The worst browser ever made. WHY? Just show up as a mass storage device on my PC ********. Android does this. Android is way better.
It's not Mac vs Windows.
There are many many different computer manufacturers in the world and many many different operating systems. Apple are a hardware manufacturing company that focus their efforts at a niche using brilliant marketing and they do their job well. They also use a modified version of BSD (A unix derived open source operating system) as an operating system and create an ecosystem that extremely limits choice such that it appears to be stable at what it does do, which isn't really a lot.
It is seriously lacking in support for Business Systems and Gaming. So saying it "just works" is a cop out. It doesn't "just work" for two of the most popular uses of computers.
It is an entire industry of hardware manufacturers and a plephora of operating system choices against one niche company that makes hardware and operating systems that are dumbed down and tarted up for their niche. Good for them. But to compare them to the PC (which is not a synonym for Windows, iTards) is just ridiculous.
And as far as MP3 players go, the Apple ecosystem is balls. iTunes is some of the worst software I've ever used. The only worse software I've used is old versions of QuickTime and of course Real Player. It's just really horrible bloatware. Installs QuickTime, Bonjour and all this other **** I don't want on my PC, and then tries its hardest to force Safari on to people as well. The worst browser ever made. WHY? Just show up as a mass storage device on my PC ********. Android does this. Android is way better.
That's never stopped me before B&B! Nor has it stopped numerous others on internet forums, worldwide. Who is qualified to talk about why Apple, Microsoft or Google is successful anyway? If we really knew we'd be out there doing it ourselves or being paid by someone else to tell them, not kicking around on a footy forum.
I'm not an Apple fanboy. But with a market capitalisation value of more than $300b USD, they must be doing something right. And it seems to me that what they are doing right is make high-level technology that people want to use. Once Microsoft, HP, Dell, Samsung etc realise that its less about the features, and more about how it feels to use (especially to the majority of the Gen X and younger people) then their technically superior products will start reclaiming market share.
Hey Willy- have you played much cricket? Because this is a bit like the difference between a good bat and an extraordinary one. There are lots of bats out there to buy, all with different weights, different distributions of weight and thicknesses. What you want the one that offers the most realisable power (which we all know is mass times velocity- i.e. the weight of the bat multiplied by the speed of the swing). Bigger bats imply more power, but only if you can swing them fast enough. The best bats have a better distribution of weight so that when you pick them up they seem as if you're holding one much lighter. It seems as if the bat is an extension of the body. Though I could easily buy a heavier, thicker bat that has more power, I will always choose the one with the better balance because I know it will give me better results. Same with my point about excess capacity- most people (ordinary consumers that is) can't or don't use it. But they do get better results out of it being easier to use.
LeaguePlayer
Hammerhead
Macs are only good if your using them for audio editing or graphic design, in all other aspects their over priced pieces of junk. I think id rather just build my $700 top of the line PC rather then go and spend $2000 on a mac with the same specs. And as for the myth that macs dont get viruses, its true their are less for mac but that's only because hackers dont see a need to bother trying with Macs when only around 5% of the world uses Macs.
Getting a Mac to not get viruses = about as stupid as the sharks were to let go off preston campbell in 03
Getting a Mac to not get viruses = about as stupid as the sharks were to let go off preston campbell in 03
Willy claims that using Mac removes the freedom of choice (of being able to use hardware from a range of manufacturers) but i claim that that is a choice in itself. I'm not a ****ing computer engineer. I don't know, or have the time to research and figure out, which components will go together easily and which will result in a **** around. The beauty in choosing Mac is that their engineers design the components, their factories build them and their OS is designed to work with these components. Apple's coding gets the best from its hardware. It's not a case of being "locked in for the ride", it's a case of saying "this is what i need, i'm gunna just have it, and it's just gunna work". God forbid having something that is just designed to work. I like this business model, it seems logical to me, therefore i use it and i'm happy to pay a bit extra for this.
Yes, it is possible to get a flash PC for cheap. Plenty of people do it, i'm not doubting that. Me, i don't have time for that ****. I don't want to be under the bonnet forever trying to enhance my system's performance. I got the Mac for what i do and that's all i need. I will admit that Windows 7 is far superior to all previous Windows OS's and just as well because i think Vista played a big part in turning people away from windows.
Besides, i need a portable system for on location recording. The Macbook Pro is perfect for me, for this. The trackpad is unlike anything available on any windows based laptop. The simple gestures and such (fully customizable) make my work within a recording session so much more pleasant. And this thing is Thunderbolt ready, which, in the coming years we're expecting a bunch of new portable and non-portable audio interfaces and storage systems to come onto the market using this technology. I know, that my system is ready to take advantage of that. Man, i'm such a ****. Such a hipster. I'm such an absolute ****wit for having something that's good for what i do.
And Mark, everyone knows business systems and games are no good on macs and that's why no one uses them for that purpose. I'm a console gamer personally (360 if anyone is keen for a 360 v PS3 battle) and i use my Mac for personal computing, audio and graphics.
The hilarious thing is, despite the constant retorts i'm seeing here about your generalised perception of a Mac user, some of you guys seem to be playing the PC fanboy card in just the same way.
And what's even more hilarious is that all this was started by my simple comment "get a mac" relating to an annoying anti-virus warning.
At the end of the day, to each his own, i was just trying to offer some friendly advice from one happy mac user to an annoyed pc user. i can't recall ever meeting someone who's returned to pc after using Mac but most people i associate with use theirs for the same reasons i use mine, which are the same reason PC stalwarts refuse to switch.
Yes, it is possible to get a flash PC for cheap. Plenty of people do it, i'm not doubting that. Me, i don't have time for that ****. I don't want to be under the bonnet forever trying to enhance my system's performance. I got the Mac for what i do and that's all i need. I will admit that Windows 7 is far superior to all previous Windows OS's and just as well because i think Vista played a big part in turning people away from windows.
Besides, i need a portable system for on location recording. The Macbook Pro is perfect for me, for this. The trackpad is unlike anything available on any windows based laptop. The simple gestures and such (fully customizable) make my work within a recording session so much more pleasant. And this thing is Thunderbolt ready, which, in the coming years we're expecting a bunch of new portable and non-portable audio interfaces and storage systems to come onto the market using this technology. I know, that my system is ready to take advantage of that. Man, i'm such a ****. Such a hipster. I'm such an absolute ****wit for having something that's good for what i do.
And Mark, everyone knows business systems and games are no good on macs and that's why no one uses them for that purpose. I'm a console gamer personally (360 if anyone is keen for a 360 v PS3 battle) and i use my Mac for personal computing, audio and graphics.
The hilarious thing is, despite the constant retorts i'm seeing here about your generalised perception of a Mac user, some of you guys seem to be playing the PC fanboy card in just the same way.
And what's even more hilarious is that all this was started by my simple comment "get a mac" relating to an annoying anti-virus warning.
At the end of the day, to each his own, i was just trying to offer some friendly advice from one happy mac user to an annoyed pc user. i can't recall ever meeting someone who's returned to pc after using Mac but most people i associate with use theirs for the same reasons i use mine, which are the same reason PC stalwarts refuse to switch.
oh and Mark, come on mate. before you burn Safari (which i don't use), take a look at the glorious Internet Explorer. ha! and before you burn iTunes, take a look at the amazing Windows Media Player or worse still...Windows Media Center. garbage!
excellent renaming of this thread, Admin
Yeah I had a chuckle when I saw the thread this morning.
Special K
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I work for a IT security vendor working with businesses to secure their web and email gateways, DLP etc and let me just say right now the macs don't get viruses or malware is complete bull**** and they are a massive pain in the ass. Macs = paying for marketing imo.... But everyone has a choice I just find it funny when you ask most mac users why they like it they will generally say "I just do", "it works better" or "its better for my music I make"... Or they are girls who like having a white laptop. I guess my problem with Macs is they are so expensive for what you actually get and they try and promote this elist attitude.
My gf has a mac and I hate having to use it, I'll take my XPS 15z with Kaspersky AV over a Mac.. Iphones are great though I love my iphone and hate my blackberry!
... What was this thread again?
My gf has a mac and I hate having to use it, I'll take my XPS 15z with Kaspersky AV over a Mac.. Iphones are great though I love my iphone and hate my blackberry!
... What was this thread again?