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Did a good job last week. Brought some energy off the bench. Need more though from him next season if he wants a place in our 17.
We need more from him this season. He was improved last week but Hazelton still ahead .
 

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Did a good job last week. Brought some energy off the bench. Need more though from him next season if he wants a place in our 17.
Having more than a few props playing well is a good problem to have.

The attitude towards Kaufusi on here is a little puzzling to me. He is actually 6 months younger than Hazelton, and although he has quite a bit of experience in terms of games played, he isn't far ahead of him in terms of being a regular member of an NRL top 17. Even in 2021 he played a lot of games but he wasn't picked when the Eels were full strength. He's a work in progress - and a just-turned-24 prop approaching 100 NRL games is a pretty solid building block.

At the age Kaufusi is today...

Rudolf had not played an NRL game
Hunt had played one game and didn't have a contract
BHU had played 2 games and was beginning his first full NRL season
 

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Having more than a few props playing well is a good problem to have.

The attitude towards Kaufusi on here is a little puzzling to me. He is actually 6 months younger than Hazelton, and although he has quite a bit of experience in terms of games played, he isn't far ahead of him in terms of being a regular member of an NRL top 17. Even in 2021 he played a lot of games but he wasn't picked when the Eels were full strength. He's a work in progress - and a just-turned-24 prop approaching 100 NRL games is a pretty solid building block.

At the age Kaufusi is today...

Rudolf had not played an NRL game
Hunt had played one game and didn't have a contract
BHU had played 2 games and was beginning his first full NRL season
Exactly. Not to mention Kaufusi will likely be a worker and not an impact prop.
 

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Exactly. Not to mention Kaufusi will likely be a worker and not an impact prop.
Having more than a few props playing well is a good problem to have.

The attitude towards Kaufusi on here is a little puzzling to me. He is actually 6 months younger than Hazelton, and although he has quite a bit of experience in terms of games played, he isn't far ahead of him in terms of being a regular member of an NRL top 17. Even in 2021 he played a lot of games but he wasn't picked when the Eels were full strength. He's a work in progress - and a just-turned-24 prop approaching 100 NRL games is a pretty solid building block.

At the age Kaufusi is today...

Rudolf had not played an NRL game
Hunt had played one game and didn't have a contract
BHU had played 2 games and was beginning his first full NRL season
Highlights reel still blank .

Might need to borrow Tom's headband .
 

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Exactly. Not to mention Kaufusi will likely be a worker and not an impact prop.
Agreed. For me it's always about role. His short stint last week aside, Kaufusi usually plays like a guy who knows he is going to be out there for 20+ minutes. He'll conserve energy where he can, stick closer to the goalposts, rarely go back inside his own 20, and sacrifice some post contact metres in favour of a quick ptb. He'll basically play like a "normal prop".

When you compare that to Hunt and Hazelton who know that their job is to go full noise for 10-15 max, chase the ball sideline to sideline and take as many hitups as possible in a short space of time, it's just common sense that those guys are going to look better in the games where the Sharks have plenty of ball. It doesn't mean they necessarily are playing "better". It just means the coach is asking them to play a different role. I'm sure if you went back and watched Parra games where Kaufusi played the 10-each-side-of-halftime role you would see him playing more like those other two guys do.
 

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I'll be happy for him not to make the highlight reel when he's making a decent amount of metres and tackles.
 

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I'll be happy for him not to make the highlight reel when he's making a decent amount of metres and tackles.
... or sometimes a lot of one and not many of the other.

It's just dumb when there are some games (e.g. vs Storm) where the Sharks have no ball, he makes a bunch of tackles, and people throw out his lack of metres as proof of a piss poor performance.... or others (e.g. Knights at Coffs) where the Sharks have plenty of ball and he takes s a shitload of runs, but people call him lazy for not making enough tackles.

The idea that you can determine how well someone played just by looking at their metres and tackles numbers is quite ridiculous.
 

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... or sometimes a lot of one and not many of the other.

It's just dumb when there are some games (e.g. vs Storm) where the Sharks have no ball, he makes a bunch of tackles, and people throw out his lack of metres as proof of a piss poor performance.... or others (e.g. Knights at Coffs) where the Sharks have plenty of ball and he takes s a shitload of runs, but people call him lazy for not making enough tackles.

The idea that you can determine how well someone played just by looking at their metres and tackles numbers is quite ridiculous.
Sure – or a lot of one. If you're calling him a worker, do you think his work rate this year is currently high enough? Genuine question.

Would love for him to become a rock in defence. If I was picking someone to tackle for my life, I'd skip straight over our squad.
 

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Sure – or a lot of one. If you're calling him a worker, do you think his work rate this year is currently high enough? Genuine question.

Would love for him to become a rock in defence. If I was picking someone to tackle for my life, I'd skip straight over our squad.
For the games I have modelled in detail - yes.

- His defensive involvement is higher than Hunt and BHU, comparable to Hazelton, but lower than all of the lighter guys (Williams, Finucane, Cam, Rudolf).
- His attacking involvement across 3 of the 4 areas of the field (kick returns, inside 20, good ball) is comparable to or better than every other forward
- His attacking involvement between his own 20m and 40m lines is comparable to or better than every other forward except Royce Hunt (who played one 10 minute stint across the games I modelled)

People complained about his attacking involvement in the Panthers game because he only had 4 runs... but I reckon that was pretty good when you consider that the Sharks only had the ball for 5 or 6 possessions when he was on the field, and in each possession he either had a hit-up or ran multiple decoys (or both).

Also - it's been said before, but the amount of off the ball work the middles do is possibly the biggest feature of the Sharks attack. All of that effort from the big boppers returns a big fat 0 on the stat sheet.
 
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I really don't mind the way he plays, he is solid and reliable and does nothing silly. Doesn't miss many tackles and occasionally gives us a strong run and a good ptb and the odd offload. He plays it safe most of the time and I am not gunna bag the bloke out for that considering how many mistakes our other forwards can be guilty of.

I wouldn't want a whole forward pack of Kaufusi's but we are the opposite of that when you look at the shapes and styles of our other forwards.

Probably isn't suited to the impact role anyway, he has the body, size ect. but I dunno if he has the fire or aggression (like say Hunt). Maybe that will change as he builds his confidence and experience.

Over the next season or so we really should be considered to have one of the best forward packs in the league, we just need to all to stay fit and perform consistintly. So much potential with these blokes.
 

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For the games I have modelled in detail - yes.

- His defensive involvement is higher than Hunt and BHU, comparable to Hazelton, but lower than all of the lighter guys (Williams, Finucane, Cam, Rudolf).
- His attacking involvement across 3 of the 4 areas of the field (kick returns, inside 20, good ball) is comparable to or better than every other forward
- His attacking involvement between his own 20m and 40m lines is comparable to or better than every other forward except Royce Hunt (who played one 10 minute stint across the games I modelled)

People complained about his attacking involvement in the Panthers game because he only had 4 runs... but I reckon that was pretty good when you consider that the Sharks only had the ball for 5 or 6 possessions when he was on the field, and in each possession he either had a hit-up or ran multiple decoys (or both).

Also - it's been said before, but the amount of off the ball work the middles do is possibly the biggest feature of the Sharks attack. All of that effort from the big boppers returns a big fat 0 on the stat sheet.
I really don't mind the way he plays, he is solid and reliable and does nothing silly. Doesn't miss many tackles and occasionally gives us a strong run and a good ptb and the odd offload. He plays it safe most of the time and I am not gunna bag the bloke out for that considering how many mistakes our other forwards can be guilty of.

I wouldn't want a whole forward pack of Kaufusi's but we are the opposite of that when you look at the shapes and styles of our other forwards.

Probably isn't suited to the impact role anyway, he has the body, size ect. but I dunno if he has the fire or aggression (like say Hunt). Maybe that will change as he builds his confidence and experience.

Over the next season or so we really should be considered to have one of the best forward packs in the league, we just need to all to stay fit and perform consistintly. So much potential with these blokes.
Bloody Kaufusi lovers
 

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wasn't really an impact in first half


need that from a bench in finals
williams was good despite that knock on with walker
 
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