Official Lachie Miller

[Shortfin Mako]

Independent of this, it looks like contracts do not mean anything from the clubs point of view.

If the club makes a long term contract with a favourable $ for the club, but then the player plays well and there is interest in him, the club either has to upgrade the player or needs to let him go. So, no advantage to the club.

If the club pays a bit overs for the player and the player does not play well, the player still sees his contract out. So, no advantage to the club.

The contracts seem very one-sided to me.

 

[Jaz]

Independent of this, it looks like contracts do not mean anything from the clubs point of view.

What's the NRL's perspective on clubs encouraging players to break contract (e.g. Knights with Miller)?

 

[andrew's_sharks]

Independent of this, it looks like contracts do not mean anything from the clubs point of view.

If the club makes a long term contract with a favourable $ for the club, but then the player plays well and there is interest in him, the club either has to upgrade the player or needs to let him go. So, no advantage to the club.

If the club pays a bit overs for the player and the player does not play well, the player still sees his contract out. So, no advantage to the club.

The contracts seem very one-sided to me.

Although I do get your point, it is not like he was with us for 5 years and then left. He literally signed a 2 year contract and was with us for one year. Most people will consider all factors and how they fit into future plans. No point wasting a spot and more resources for nothing

 

[bort]

Independent of this, it looks like contracts do not mean anything from the clubs point of view.

If the club makes a long term contract with a favourable $ for the club, but then the player plays well and there is interest in him, the club either has to upgrade the player or needs to let him go. So, no advantage to the club.

If the club pays a bit overs for the player and the player does not play well, the player still sees his contract out. So, no advantage to the club.

The contracts seem very one-sided to me.

Yep, and you know the managers aren't missing any opportunities

What's the NRL's perspective on clubs encouraging players to break contract (e.g. Knights with Miller)?

Fine if it is after Nov 1 leading into last year of their contract

 

[bort]

Although I do get your point, it is not like he was with us for 5 years and then left. He literally signed a 2 year contract and was with us for one year. Most people will consider all factors and how they fit into future plans. No point wasting a spot and more resources for nothing

It's only wasting a spot and resources for nothing if he doesn't contribute to us. If we keep him he may still contribute to us.

If we don't intend to use him (unless absolutely necessary) if he has signed elsewhere net year then there is less reason to keep him, although we didn't release Metcalf to Warriors.

 

[Thresher]

What's the NRL's perspective on clubs encouraging players to break contract (e.g. Knights with Miller)?

Never met him, but from afar V'Landys strikes me as a let's strike a deal kind of guy

 

[XGinga]

That is a very short sighted view, I think making sure you keep the best young talents you have access too does contribute to premierships.

Iro does have some development still before he can lock down an NRL spot, so do probably Colquhoun, Hazelton, Taukamo, Hiroti, Berrell and, formerly(?) Miller

Thing is Iro knows how this sort of thing works and knows that making him top 30 now makes no difference.
He already has top 30 for next year, can play after round 12 if not added and knows if needed he will get registered as top 30 early. Money and job security won't change if added to top 30 early.

 

[bort]

Thing is Iro knows how this sort of thing works and knows that making him top 30 now makes no difference.
He already has top 30 for next year, can play after round 12 if not added and knows if needed he will get registered as top 30 early. Money and job security won't change if added to top 30 early.

Money could definitely change, we don't know what wage he is on while he is on dev contract.
Job security could definitely change too, which do you think he'd rather, we upgrade him or we sign another outside back ahead of him?
If we sign an outside back into top 30 his access to NRL opportunities is affected.

If we upgrade him we also have the option to then use a now freed up dev contract constructively.
Could even come down to Fitz deciding if we want to give spot 28 to a Hiroti 2.0 who is available or lock in a junior to a dev contract to secure them* and Iro getting the nod or not depends on that decision. (*or poach someone elses promising junior with a better offer)

I'm not trying to say it simply must be Kayal but I suspect he might be the best candidate. If someone better is available for us to get then great.

 

[snowman]

Thing is Iro knows how this sort of thing works and knows that making him top 30 now makes no difference.
He already has top 30 for next year, can play after round 12 if not added and knows if needed he will get registered as top 30 early. Money and job security won't change if added to top 30 early.

money would significantly change if he is upgraded from dev to first grade

 

[Gumby]

Should add a clause saying he can’t play against us for this year.

 

[HaroldBishop]

Should add a clause saying he can’t play against us for this year.

He's not that good

 

[Gumby]

He's not that good

He will be

 

[HaroldBishop]

He will be

He really won't be

 

[Gal The Goat]

He really won't be

Yeah I liked Miller but he did have some flaws in his game (letting the high balls bounce for one) looks like he’ll get first crack at starting fullback, which I’m happy to see, I hope he kills it enough that he’s their best player but they really suck.

I also wouldn’t be surprised though if he plays musical chairs in that spot throughout the year as he has some work cut out for him. He’s now in an average team surrounded by some average players. Results against them will result in team changes

 

[Sir Chadley]

He's not that good

He will be

He really won't be

Yeah, he is quick and elusive but other than that there's not much else. I don't have a problem with him leaving.

 

[bort]

His try on NRL debut was because he let a kick bounce vs Titans and got rewarded instead of punished

For all his dangerous running he only scored two tries in 16 games for Jets (or call it 2 tries in 11 games at fullback)
Our **** fullback ahead of him Will had 7 tries in 19 games against NRL players and he is less of a ‘running threat’

 

[beaver2233]

His try on NRL debut was because he let a kick bounce vs Titans and got rewarded instead of punished

For all his dangerous running he only scored two tries in 16 games for Jets (or call it 2 tries in 11 games at fullback)
Our **** fullback ahead of him Will had 7 tries in 19 games against NRL players and he is less of a ‘running threat’

I'd be interested in comparing assists as well (both TA and LBA).

 

[bort]

I'd be interested in comparing assists as well (both TA and LBA).

TA is easy as they are listed on nswrl website https://www.nswrl.com.au/players/nsw-cup/newtown-jets/lachlan-miller/
LBA not on there

 

[beaver2233]

TA is easy as they are listed on nswrl website https://www.nswrl.com.au/players/nsw-cup/newtown-jets/lachlan-miller/
LBA not on there

Thanks! Overall LBA is there at least, next to TA.

 

[bort]

Thanks! LBA is there, right next to TA!

In the summary, right, I only looked in game by game stat block at the bottom. Good spotting.
Unfortunately lose the ability to split his two positions but can use it for a little info at least.