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I do wonder if we have a positive win/loss record by the time Bellamy decides if he wants to join, whether they stick with Morris or not. It seems to be all riding on the Bellamy decision.

It must be assumed that Bellamy wants Fitzgibbon as coach, otherwise I see no reason why we would replace Morris with Fitzgibbon.

I personally hope they sign him up. We are going in the right direction.
 

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Morgan hasn't been **** for 2-3 seasons. I'll give you JT. Rest probably on par. Can't overlook the extra work last week of our blokes but.

you cant, but you cant overlook the fact they are down on troops as well

its a great win, no doubt, but we need more

its ok beating the **** sides, we are good at that, need to knock of some other teams now

then we need to look to build on that, and i dont think bomber is the one to do it
 
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you cant, but you cant overlook the fact they are down on troops as well

its a great win, no doubt, but we need more

its ok beating the **** sides, we are good at that, need to knock of some other teams now

then we need to look to build on that, and i dont think bomber is the one to do it

We could have won both the Raiders and Eels games minus SJ.
We should have beaten the Raiders except for poor goal kicking.
No team could of won against the eels with no bench after 30-35 mins. The flood gates only really opened up after 70 mins. That's a fair effort.
Bomber is yet to have a side he would be happy to say is his own. Hamstrung through salary cap issues (by boneheaded choices ie Xerri, sanctions, injuries and overpriced under achieving stock).
He has done an A+ job with those limitations so I think he has earnt an opportunity to coach without those limitations to show what he can offer.
 

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I think the squad is indicitive of Bomber too. We're seeing some special players developing, and Bomber has a similar trajectory as a coach. I honestly can't tell where the ceiling is with this playing group or coach, but everything I've seen makes me want to take the ride
 

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We could have won both the Raiders and Eels games minus SJ.
We should have beaten the Raiders except for poor goal kicking.
No team could of won against the eels with no bench after 30-35 mins. The flood gates only really opened up after 70 mins. That's a fair effort.
Bomber is yet to have a side he would be happy to say is his own. Hamstrung through salary cap issues (by boneheaded choices ie Xerri, sanctions, injuries and overpriced under achieving stock).
He has done an A+ job with those limitations so I think he has earnt an opportunity to coach without those limitations to show what he can offer.

A week is a long time in footy. I’m okay with the board holding off on prematurely extending Morris. He’s had a **** load of adversity I’ll give him that but this is a pivotal time in the club with a huge amount of money to be spent for next year. We are in a position to set ourselves up for the next 5+ years so we need to make sure it is the right person leading the team. I really hope we can put in a few good performances in the next 4-5 weeks and we stay within the 8 and get some players back. If we can knock off a few contenders or atleast match them I think he will get extended and would be happy for that. I don’t think the club should rush into any coaching decisions yet I don’t think Morris has many teams knocking on his door yet anyway.

But we can’t wait forever cause the coaching dilemma will effect contract negotiations with players for 2022
 

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According to The Mole:


[h=2]SHARKS CHAIR WANTS 'HIGH-PROFILE COACH'[/h]So what is behind Cronulla's continued reluctance to re-sign coach John Morris?

The Sharks have been playing good footy - and that's despite missing their main man Shaun Johnson and plenty of other players.
Their roster is hardly star packed - yet Morris has guided them to the finals two years running and is on track to make it three from three.

I'm hearing the problem is chairman Steven Mace - he wants a high-profile coach to boost the club's ability to sign big names.
Morris is the lowest paid coach in the NRL but what Mace fails to realise is that he has no problem attracting star power - Johnson being one example - because players from rival clubs talk to one another.

Sharks players have told rival stars that Morris is a good man who will go into bat for them - and that's something any prospective employee wants to hear.

If this is true, Mace needs to pull his head out of his derrière and join the real world. Myself, like many others, suspect that the reason that Bomber is being kept dangling is because the club is being kept dangling by Bellamy.

Is Mace on an ego trip? "Hey, look at me, I brought Craig Bellamy to the club. Aren't I something special." And of course the next step is to bring his old mate Shenanigans Flanagan back into the fold. FMD

Bellamy is a blight on the game with his win at any cost attitude, evidenced by Melbourne's salary cap rorting (how the f*** did he come out of that relatively unscathed) and being mainly responsible for teaching his players to hurt and disable the opposition to gain an advantage. The bloke is a grub of the highest order.

I don't believe any coach could have done any better than Bomber has, what with a reduced salary cap, a horror run of injuries and Shenanigan's top buys either bludging or injured.

To Mace and the board members I say start thinking about what's best for the Club, instead of what's in it for me.
 

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It is obvious Morris is a good coach I will be furious if we let him walk. The guy could easily turn into a 10plus year coach and bring in a long era of success at the club.
 

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yeah they barrelled into on NRL 360 last night.
Buzz rothfield wanting the blaze it up as a topic of discussion.

I hope they do stick with JMO; Think he's got capability to become a strong coach.
we would so far off on getting Bellamy I reckon
need to get stability; players want to know who the coach is. need to get it sorted
 

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I think the commentary is on the money - most punters thought we would be garbage, the board has their sights on a certain coach, and jmo and the squad are making it difficult to execute the plan because of how they’re playing. If we can beat the roosters, and beat them well, he will probably get an extension. Hope we can do it.
 

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According to The Mole:




If this is true, Mace needs to pull his head out of his derrière and join the real world. Myself, like many others, suspect that the reason that Bomber is being kept dangling is because the club is being kept dangling by Bellamy.

Is Mace on an ego trip? "Hey, look at me, I brought Craig Bellamy to the club. Aren't I something special." And of course the next step is to bring his old mate Shenanigans Flanagan back into the fold. FMD

Bellamy is a blight on the game with his win at any cost attitude, evidenced by Melbourne's salary cap rorting (how the f*** did he come out of that relatively unscathed) and being mainly responsible for teaching his players to hurt and disable the opposition to gain an advantage. The bloke is a grub of the highest order.

I don't believe any coach could have done any better than Bomber has, what with a reduced salary cap, a horror run of injuries and Shenanigan's top buys either bludging or injured.

To Mace and the board members I say start thinking about what's best for the Club, instead of what's in it for me.

Can’t blame them if they want to see how we go against the better teams which was where we failed last year, the coaching decision is a call that will set us up for the next couple years ; this week is a perfect test

We’ve beaten the Cowboys and Dragons which is expected

Lost against the Eels and Raiders

On paper (not a true indication but the most important) we are exactly where we were the last two years

Also, Morris didn’t bring SJ to the club that was Flanagan - Mole should’ve said Morris brought McInnes
 

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Lost against Eels and Raiders both expected also by most.
Raiders we get some calls in opening 30 so we aren’t wiped out and we’re probably in with a shot, unfortunately we had to play catch up under fatigue and some bad kicking cost us chance to go to golden point.
Eels we got crippled before halftime and did well to hold on as long as we did.

If you accept the narrative that Fifita is ‘injured’ (not first grade quality due to knee injury) then we had 2 of our top 4 paid players out and another who is probably 7th (Ramien) plus two more top 17 quality forwards out.

As Wiz also pointed out SJ very much a Flanno buy but he has got McInnes which was big news
 

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Fair comment Wiz, although we could easily have been 3-1, and with no bench and about 5 blokes playing out of position, the Eels game could have got really ugly in the 2nd half.

What I've seen so far this season is a team playing for each other, particularly in defence, and not wanting to let each other, or the coach, down. That attitude was often missing last year.
 
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I think Bomber's retention and not just recruitment needs to be brought up.

To be able to keep all these players that have extended whilst he's coach can't be understated, they obviously enjoy playing under him.
 

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I'm with CAGE, no to Bellamy at the cost potential instability etc. But i also I think Club probably doing the right thing in holding off seeing who's out there, but Jmo will be renewed. Only 3weeks to go till their said Time frame. Media trying to fuel the flames. We beat Easts his remaining Doubters all STFU.
 

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I'm with CAGE, no to Bellamy at the cost potential instability etc. But i also I think Club probably doing the right thing in holding off seeing who's out there, but Jmo will be renewed. Only 3weeks to go till their said Time frame. Media trying to fuel the flames. We beat Easts his remaining Doubters all STFU.

Nobody is out there though, just scraps.
There is zero prospect we get a big name coach from anywhere except Flanno.
And he's available for a reason.
 

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I recall Bombers early press conferences, dorky as was out of his depth in the big boys league, however he has improved immensely and gained confidence so much so that I am proud how he now handles himself. I reckon the same applies to his coaching and players have the belief in him.

He's had Flanno's roster, second rate assistants, plagued by cap restrictions and injuries to stars, successfully blooded juniors whilst still getting us in top 8 in both years and on track this year. Not many coaches can boast that, even some of the super coaches did not have a start like that. You don't become a super coach overnight, it takes a few seasons to build a roster then the art of rolling it over as players will leave for bigger $$$ or retire and having emerging talent ready to replace them.

People talk about coaches attracting big name players but there is more than that, a coach must be good at developing junior talent which Bomber seems to be doing well. They love playing for him.

Bomber is lowest paid coach yet better than 8 others so to say. He took the job on for peanuts (I would do same) just for the opportunity to prove himself and with success the $$$ will follow. On one of the footy shows (can't remember which) they said the club was taken aback when his management approached them wanting a 3 yr deal @ $700k per year. That is about 1/2 what the super coaches are on and we could have the next super coach at a bargain. Bomber has remained loyal as he could have pushed for an extension last year with the possibility of getting a gig. The Cows and Dogs would have had a look at him had he put himself out there. Unfortunately for him, no coaching musical chairs this year and similarly fortunate that there are no other realistic coaches out there (Bellamy or even a Bennett) won't come and frankly don't want them as likely to drop dead at any time. Flanno is the only experienced coach but I think the club wishes to distance themselves from him. No current assistant coaches have the 1st grade experience or success that Bomber has had, therefore let's sign him and roll the dice, he has done little wrong and has us up there. I would like to see him with his own roster with no restrictions.

I like what I see and believe we are in for some good times with Bomber at the helm. I predict he will be a 10-15 yr coach and bring us a few successes, hope I live long enough to see it.
 
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Nobody is out there though, just scraps.
There is zero prospect we get a big name coach from
anywhere except Flanno.
And he's available for a reason.

Bennett?

Left field I know but I’m sure I heard Dino say we had a plan B if Bellamy said no to a role, they don’t come any more high profile than Bennett.
 

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Bennett?

Left field I know but I’m sure I heard Dino say we had a plan B if Bellamy said no to a role, they don’t come any more high profile than Bennett.

The Bellamy role is not coach as far as I am aware. So even if plan B for that role is Bennett (which I've just seen something suggesting he may take a similar role at Brisbane) we still need a coach.

Bennett seems to not mind leaving a club in a bad state either, looking at Souths cap issues it's time to move on. Has been a great coach but I'd be pretty dubious about taking him right now over Bomber.
 

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Can’t blame them if they want to see how we go against the better teams which was where we failed last year, the coaching decision is a call that will set us up for the next couple years ; this week is a perfect test

We’ve beaten the Cowboys and Dragons which is expected

Lost against the Eels and Raiders

On paper (not a true indication but the most important) we are exactly where we were the last two years

Also, Morris didn’t bring SJ to the club that was Flanagan - Mole should’ve said Morris brought McInnes

I'd extend him now. He's done a great job fixing last year's defensive and fitness issues which is what everyone was critical of.

Also has done a bloody good job with our attack minus SJ.

We also still have plenty of high priced deadwood, we'll be in a great position soon.
 
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