Official Jesse Ramien

[apezza]

Three tries and I still switch my whipping boy vote to him. Am I unreasonable?

Yeh it's confusing when the other Whipping Boy had a great game too!

 

[bort]

Is Tago the equivelent? I haven't watched him too closely to really compare.
If Olam is the best centre maybe he's the benchmark? They are pretty similar players. Don't pass much, are human battering rams. Smack blokes in defence

No he’s probably not a great equivalent but struck me as someone I didn’t really consider error prone and at same time part of one of the games most lethal edges so figured he can’t be ****ing up too often

 

[BurgoShark]

BTW Sparkles, what you are describing here is a strike player. There are plenty of players like this. David Fifita, Kotoni Staggs, James Roberts, Brian Kelly, BJ Leilua, etc.

These blokes can win you a game with a big play, but they have holes in their overall game that (so far) no coach has been able to fix. It’s a calculated risk to have a few of these guys in your team. You need strike, but you can’t have too many players like this or the bad start to outweigh the good.

 

[Sparkles]

BTW Sparkles, what you are describing here is a strike player. There are plenty of players like this. David Fifita, Kotoni Staggs, James Roberts, Brian Kelly, BJ Leilua, etc.

These blokes can win you a game with a big play, but they have holes in their overall game that (so far) no coach has been able to fix. It’s a calculated risk to have a few of these guys in your team. You need strike, but you can’t have too many players like this or the bad start to outweigh the good.

I get where you're coming from, and I'd agree Raimen is more a high risk/high threat player. I guess mostly, as I'd eluded to in the original post, I have a big question mark over whether we need his threat over the risk. Around Ramien are Moylan, Hynes, Kennedy and Katoa. That's a lot of threat. Throw in a bit of Nikora with his line running on that edge and we're packing some real firepower. It'd be interesting to see how a lower risk/lower threat player would combine with that backline and how that affected the dynamic of the team. My gut feeling right now is that we would gain more than we lose. But that could just be due to how annoyed I am by his totally avoidable, random mistakes.

 

[apezza]

I get frustrated too but there's no doubt we are a stronger team with him on the field.

 

[vicsharkfan]

I get frustrated too but there's no doubt we are a stronger team with him on the field.

Without doubt sort of player pretty much during an given game. You want to bolt up the stairs bash on the coaches box door tell Fitz to drag his ass off the field, but by the time you make your way back to your seat he produces something special and you want to jump the fence and dry root his leg. I love that both our centres can create something from nothing (not always positive) but I’ll take it over shovelling it out to the winger and being bundled out over the touch line.

 

[BurgoShark]

Without doubt sort of player pretty much during an given game. You want to bolt up the stairs bash on the coaches box door tell Fitz to drag his ass off the field, but by the time you make your way back to your seat he produces something special and you want to jump the fence and dry root his leg. I love that both our centres can create something from nothing (not always positive) but I’ll take it over shovelling it out to the winger and being bundled out over the touch line.

Perfect summary

 

[Gards]

Ramien creates space and opportunities because well he is Ramien - he is fast, big and strong so has multiple defenders back peddling then eventually committing to try tackle him and now he has options. He can dummy and take on the defense and try barge over, he can offload in the tackle or he can pass to his winger. A defender trying to cover the pass to Katoa on the wing is one less body there to try bring Jesse down before the line.

Yes execution will let him down on any of these 3 options time to time but those opportunities are there he just gotta tidy up his play and decision making a bit

Tracey played well but if he was on that edge instead of Ramien I reckon we score 2 less trys on that edge in the Storm game

Jesse is already a monster in defense this season (made massive strides on 2021 in this regard) so if he can now fix up the handling and discipline along with aforementioned decision making he would only need to add a bit more of a kicking game (honestly doesn't need to do it often) and he would be one of the strongest most complete centres in the game.

I reckon the coaching staff are all over this with Jesse in regards to areas needing improvement cause they of all people would see the massive potential in him. Heck he is already killing it as things stand now, the good he brings outweighs the bad.

 

[Capital_Shark]

Had a shocker and still bagged 3 (a bee's dick off 4) and we rissole Melbourne. I can deal with that.

 

[Gumby]

Bloke is the most frustrating playing in our squad atm. Does my ****ing head in

 

[Shortfin Mako]

Ramien creates space and opportunities because well he is Ramien - he is fast, big and strong so has multiple defenders back peddling then eventually committing to try tackle him and now he has options. He can dummy and take on the defense and try barge over, he can offload in the tackle or he can pass to his winger. A defender trying to cover the pass to Katoa on the wing is one less body there to try bring Jesse down before the line.

Yes execution will let him down on any of these 3 options time to time but those opportunities are there he just gotta tidy up his play and decision making a bit

Tracey played well but if he was on that edge instead of Ramien I reckon we score 2 less trys on that edge in the Storm game

Jesse is already a monster in defense this season (made massive strides on 2021 in this regard) so if he can now fix up the handling and discipline along with aforementioned decision making he would only need to add a bit more of a kicking game (honestly doesn't need to do it often) and he would be one of the strongest most complete centres in the game.

I reckon the coaching staff are all over this with Jesse in regards to areas needing improvement cause they of all people would see the massive potential in him. Heck he is already killing it as things stand now, the good he brings outweighs the bad.

We saw how that edge performed when he was out for 2 weeks. He has a lot of potential and as you said already heaps better than last year.

 

[Wiz]

We saw how that edge performed when he was out for 2 weeks. He has a lot of potential and as you said already heaps better than last year.

Despite this I guarantee you some will still call for Tracey to be centre lol

 

[Capital_Shark]

Despite this I guarantee you some will still call for Tracey to be centre lol

As fill in, for sure.

 

[Gards]

If that's considered a shocker I would take it every time

3 Trys, 3 LBs, 1 LBA, 1 TA, 8 TBs

He did a Sifa v Morgan Harper to that edge

He had 1 more error than Fifita and the same amount of penalties and had 1 more missed tackle than Dale

Conservative vanilla centres make negative plays too but you lose all that Jesse offers in attack

 

[HaroldBishop]

If that's considered a shocker I would take it every time

3 Trys, 3 LBs, 1 LBA, 1 TA, 8 TBs

He did a Sifa v Morgan Harper to that edge

He had 1 more error than Fifita and the same amount of penalties and had 1 more missed tackle than Dale

Conservative vanilla centres make negative plays too but you lose all that Jesse offers in attack

He got lucky with errors mate, saved by penalties.

 

[sharkgaz]

Ramien is frustrating to watch sometimes for sure, but man, he would be in my starting side every week

 

[Sparkles]

If that's considered a shocker I would take it every time

3 Trys, 3 LBs, 1 LBA, 1 TA, 8 TBs

He did a Sifa v Morgan Harper to that edge

He had 1 more error than Fifita and the same amount of penalties and had 1 more missed tackle than Dale

Conservative vanilla centres make negative plays too but you lose all that Jesse offers in attack

I love the enthusiasm, but Talakai on Harper might be a stretch mate, that game was GOAT level

Ramien didn't have a lot of work to do on those tries, to be fair to the guys inside him (and outside with the kick). He did well to be in the right place, not nuff it and showed some good toe, but they weren't barnstorming individual efforts. Especially the last. The Storm defence didn't want to be there.

 

[Western Sharkie]

I love the enthusiasm, but Talakai on Harper might be a stretch mate, that game was GOAT level

Ramien didn't have a lot of work to do on those tries, to be fair to the guys inside him (and outside with the kick). He did well to be in the right place, not nuff it and showed some good toe, but they weren't barnstorming individual efforts. Especially the last. The Storm defence didn't want to be there.

Ramien is becoming our new “Sparkles” (McGaw).

Tough as nails in D and has flair with plenty of contact meters and LB ability in attack.

 

[apezza]

Ramien is becoming our new “Sparkles” (McGaw).

Tough as nails in D and has flair with plenty of contact meters and LB ability in attack.

McGaw was prone to the odd howler in his game too. Good comparison

 

[Western Sharkie]

McGaw was prone to the odd howler in his game too. Good comparison

I loved watching him terrorise opposition centres.
He had a great combo working same side plays with ET at times as well.