Hughesy215
Oceanic Whitetip Shark
better than this year or fail
Didn't realise Elkin had gone.
I know some people have made remarks about him, but I've liked our teams strength and conditioning. I hope whoever replaces him can turn soft players into harder players.
Smith will be an enormous loss. Teams he plays in win. Luke Lewis? Chris Heighnington? Michael Gordon? They're clubs are barely any more successful than us.
Obviously we're bringing in more talent than we're losing, but don't underestimate the value of Smith. Why else would Bennett be giving him a 3 year deal at his age? And the Sharks wanting to extend him a few months ago?
lol Yes Smith will be a huge loss but it's absurd to say teams he plays in win.We had him in 2011 and we still lost. He has previously played under 2 of the best coaches in history followed with great squads , it takes a lot more then Jeremy Smith to win games. There are reasons why tigers and Panthers haven't been successful in recent seasons like ****ty coaches and terrible squads put Jez in either one of those teams this season and they still would have lost.
To be honest I'm on the fence. A couple of months ago I would be the first person saying we can win it, but look at the other teams, Raiders are only going to get better, Broncos are always good, Manly could win it next 3 years, Storm aswell. Cowboys have a strong squad, who knows about the Titans? And Wests who were supposed to win it this year still have huge talent. And I forgot about Newcastle, money can buy you anything these days.
Our backline is rubbish, our 6 is going to have a majorly disrupted pre season and we have some players getting older, I don't know anymore.
Can't possibly seeing us lose a game. No team will come within 20 points of us! We win in 2013 claim the world club challenge, FA Cup, European Cup, Bledisloe Cup,Davis Cup, Melbourne Cup and any other competition we desire!
Unless we can add a wimbledon title to this it's probably still a failure...
I reckon it'll start the same as this year.
We'll lose our first 2-3 games whilst we work out our combinations and then hit some form. However instead of falling off after Origin we continue to play good footy.
It was my prediction for this year and I'll say the same for next. I reckon we'll finish 3rd.
Looks like some people are setting themselves up for disappointment.
Its one thing being optimistic- confident even- its another thing to throw out a lifetime's experience following the Sharks. Just when things seem to be going to plan... that's when they get ya.
The last few years have seen, without fail, one of the contenders drop out of the 8 altogether the following year. And its not always the team you think... Parra n(and the Dogs) in '10. GC (and Panthers and Raiders) in '11. Warriors (and Dragons) in '12. And they often aren't the ones you'd expect- they're often ones that significantly "improve" their rosters.
Smith will be an enormous loss. Teams he plays in win. Luke Lewis? Chris Heighnington? Michael Gordon? They're clubs are barely any more successful than us.
Obviously we're bringing in more talent than we're losing, but don't underestimate the value of Smith. Why else would Bennett be giving him a 3 year deal at his age? And the Sharks wanting to extend him a few months ago?
What's more... this club doesn't deal well with expectation. At all.
That said, any talk of moving Flanagan on is ludicrous- whether we come last or first. He sees out his deal. We overacheived this year and most of the on field improvement can be attributed to his coaching and recruitment decisions. Sacking him would be suicidal.
To be honest I'm on the fence. A couple of months ago I would be the first person saying we can win it, but look at the other teams, Raiders are only going to get better, Broncos are always good, Manly could win it next 3 years, Storm aswell. Cowboys have a strong squad, who knows about the Titans? And Wests who were supposed to win it this year still have huge talent. And I forgot about Newcastle, money can buy you anything these days.
Our backline is rubbish, our 6 is going to have a majorly disrupted pre season and we have some players getting older, I don't know anymore.
Its not causation of course. But its a lot more than a coincidence.
I'd add the World Cup to that too.
I don't know why it is exactly but I could hazard a guess:
(1) His ruck defence is the best in the game, and because play the ball speed is so important in the modern game, he's been crucial to his teams' successes.
(2) His attitude, his leadership, whatever- seems to rub off on those around him. He plays tuff and does whatever it take to win... and he demands that his teammates do the same.
I actually think that if the Tigers or the Warriors in particular had had Smith- probably the Raiders too actually- they would have gone a lot deeper than they did. He's a difference maker, same as Smith, Lockyer, Thurston, Slater, Hayne, Carney. He makes those around him better. He's just not as glamourous as the others.
When all the things that don't come up on the stats sheet are taken in to account, you realise that he's close to the best forward in the game. That's what we're losing. The only bona fide "winner" we've had in memory (mine anyway).